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Mar 28, 2009 9:59 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
pretzelman: sorry....not gonna draw me into this....bye bye


Hold on Pretz, I think I'll join you.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 28, 2009 10:02 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
emannigol: Thanks!

Proverbs 26:5

You got it!handshake cheers
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Mar 28, 2009 10:02 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
calmheartseeks
calmheartseekscalmheartseeksSomewhere, California USA7 Threads 1 Polls 505 Posts
It's sad that someone asking a question gets you into a frenzy.


crotalus_p: You can not truly be a Christian whit out firstly haven dismissed all other religions apart from the fact that the bible commands you to (under penalty of death) the contradictions between religions mean that if you deem one to be true then all others must be deemed to be false ,
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Mar 28, 2009 10:04 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Reply to Krimsa:

Ideas/thoughts

Leviticus 27:28-29
No devoted thing, that a man shall devote unto the LORD of all that he hath, both of man and beast ... shall be sold or redeemed: every devoted thing is most holy unto the LORD. None devoted, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.

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The idea/thoughts that man/ego makes-- ends only with the body-- dying and forever gone; death.

The idea/thoughts (those devoted) that are given to the LORD shall be redeemed and Created.

The LORD does not even acknowledge the ego/man. The Lord knows only Spirit.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:05 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
calmheartseeks: Thanks. As far as I know, Nostradumus did not claim to be God. To claim that I should give him "equal time" makes no sense. I probably have given him more time than a lot of people, lol.


I never read anything that claimed he did either.hug bouquet
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Mar 28, 2009 10:06 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
calmheartseeks: It's sad that someone asking a question gets you into a frenzy.
What frenzy dunno I can assure you i am in noway in a frenzy like state , Although it does say some thing about the state you are in when you start attacking people instead of their argument roll eyes
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Mar 28, 2009 10:06 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
In response to: 1) unfulfilled prophecy is just that...unfulfilled


The prophecy was supposed to be fulfilled during Abraham's lifetime and it has not been to this very day.

In response to: 2) I never said Abraham was a false prophet.


God was the one that made this promise to Abraham. However it never came to fruition.

In response to: 3) God is the Creator,not me, He can do whatever He wants.


Cop out...non-responsive

In response to: 4) I am not implying anything about the Palestinians.


Who are the "people who still occupy this region of the world" and who allegedly "hate the Jews?” Who are the descendants of Ishmael, the elder brother of Isaac?

In response to: 5) If I WAS God and people were destroying my creation without my say so, then yes, I might hate and retaliate against the people who were doing this.


But who was "destroying god's creation"? What are you talking about and what does this apply to?

In response to: 6) Christians have done a lot of things in the name of God which He did not want or authorize.


It’s in the bible and was requested by God...

In response to: 7) The offering of firstborn sons did not refer to their blood being shed, but rather them being raised to love and serve not only God but others as well. We are called to love and serve one another, not destroy and hate each other.


This one I already responded to on another post.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:07 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
wixomwizard: I never read anything that claimed he did either.
If I recall correctly he did claim to be in communication with either god or angels (id have to check to be sure)
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Mar 28, 2009 10:08 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Dusty45: Reply to Krimsa:

Ideas/thoughts

Leviticus 27:28-29
No devoted thing, that a man shall devote unto the LORD of all that he hath, both of man and beast ... shall be sold or redeemed: every devoted thing is most holy unto the LORD. None devoted, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.

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The idea/thoughts that man/ego makes-- ends only with the body-- dying and forever gone; death.

The idea/thoughts (those devoted) that are given to the LORD shall be redeemed and Created.

The LORD does not even acknowledge the ego/man. The Lord knows only Spirit.


??? We were discussing human sacrifice which this passage refers to. dunno
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Mar 28, 2009 10:10 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
emannigol
emannigolemannigolJossakin Pirkanmaalla, Southern Finland Finland356 Posts
Dusty45: Their choices are contention and hatred of the idea of a God, the Creator because they want to believe that they are the cause and maker of this world without the acknowledgment of God.


Isn't being an image of god, being superior to other beings?

Talk about being narcistic. mumbling
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Mar 28, 2009 10:10 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
Its just a book written by monks.BTW mi moms family name is related to monks,I just heard the real story thru history,family and friendsbouquet
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Mar 28, 2009 10:10 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
krimsa: ??? We were discussing human sacrifice which this passage refers to.


Try 'thinking' about this.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:13 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
calmheartseeks
calmheartseekscalmheartseeksSomewhere, California USA7 Threads 1 Polls 505 Posts
I have just started to study this, but thank you for your input. I still want to get back to you about old Abraham! lol. maybe over the weekend.

krimsa: They didn’t accept him as the Messiah for a multitude of reasons. I will list some here but there are TONS. The Hebrew were sticklers for the details, let’s put it that way.

1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.

2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.

3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.

4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:18 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
krimsa: The prophecy was supposed to be fulfilled during Abraham's lifetime and it has not been to this very day.
God was the one that made this promise to Abraham. However it never came to fruition.
Cop out...non-responsive
Who are the "people who still occupy this region of the world" and who allegedly "hate the Jews?” Who are the descendants of Ishmael, the elder brother of Isaac?
But who was "destroying god's creation"? What are you talking about and what does this apply to?
It’s in the bible and was requested by God...
This one I already responded to on another post.


I think you are passing yourself in the hallway!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 28, 2009 10:19 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
calmheartseeks: I have just started to study this, but thank you for your input. I still want to get back to you about old Abraham! lol. maybe over the weekend.


Alright. I took that from a Jewish historical website but I imagine its valid. I think they were attempting to over simplify of course for practical bullet point reading.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:19 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
calmheartseeks
calmheartseekscalmheartseeksSomewhere, California USA7 Threads 1 Polls 505 Posts
You can't seriously believe I attacked you? You came into this thread and told me you "dismissed" my question along with a barrage of other hostilities.

If I am in a frenzy (which I'm not, though I'm not happy with this nonsense) it is because of some of the hostility I've encountered.

What is your argument? I did not give equal time to all the gods?

Odd that people try to manipulate an argument about a question you post.

crotalus_p: What frenzy I can assure you i am in noway in a frenzy like state , Although it does say some thing about the state you are in when you start attacking people instead of their argument
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Mar 28, 2009 10:19 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
wixomwizard: I think you are passing yourself in the hallway!
I think you had nothing intelligent to post , roll eyes
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Mar 28, 2009 10:20 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
wixomwizard: I think you are passing yourself in the hallway!


Dont quit your day job...laugh Stand up comedian isnt your calling.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:20 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
wixomwizard: I think you are passing yourself in the hallway!
rolling on the floor laughing i think she's passing gas...professor rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 28, 2009 10:25 AM CST A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Dusty45: Try 'thinking' about this.


Dusty the passage is referring to HUMAN SACRIFICE which was common in biblical times. What else do you want to say about it? I just do not understand your comment in relation to the discussion. No need to be rude.
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