A sincere question to those who don't believe the Bible is God's Word (303)
Kill Them All,God Will Know His Own!!
The Night of Bartholomew in France
The Killing of the Huguenots.
That is what they did to their Fellow Human Beings.
The Night of Bartholomew in France
The Killing of the Huguenots.
That is what they did to their Fellow Human Beings.
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When are you guys going to stop lumping in the Catholic church with the real church? There is a small piece of history called the Reformation - ever hear of it?
The massacre:
"printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion".
They are currently working on making Jerusalem the capital of World Religion with your buddies the Lubavitchers.
Anyways, here is a "vague" prophecy, quoted by Yashua while it was actually being fulfilled:
Psalm 22
1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.
3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel.
4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.
5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.
6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:
8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."
9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.
10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.
11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.
16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.
18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.
19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.
20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save me from the horns of the wild oxen.
22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.
23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you will I fulfill my vows.
26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!
27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.
29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.
30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.
31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn—
for he has done it.
The massacre:
"printed on Protestant minds the indelible conviction that Catholicism was a bloody and treacherous religion".
They are currently working on making Jerusalem the capital of World Religion with your buddies the Lubavitchers.
Anyways, here is a "vague" prophecy, quoted by Yashua while it was actually being fulfilled:
Psalm 22
1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.
3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel.
4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.
5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.
6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:
8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."
9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.
10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.
11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.
16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.
18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.
19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.
20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save me from the horns of the wild oxen.
22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.
23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you will I fulfill my vows.
26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!
27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.
29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.
30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.
31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn—
for he has done it.
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I was under the impression that Catholicism was another denomination of Christianity? They believe in Jesus just as the Protestants do. Both factions have tried to kill one another historically. 
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krimsa: I was under the impression that Catholicism was another denomination of Christianity? .
They are the oldest denomination krimsa: They believe in Jesus just as the Protestants do. Both factions have tried to kill one another historically.
Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England 
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crotalus_p: They are the oldest denomination
Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England
Naw,there was Calvin,Luther,Zwingli,Hus and Wycliffe.Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England
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I will say one last thing and leave you people to your pleasure!
Read my thread!
Read my thread!
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RillyNiceGuy: Who cares what Krimsa said!
To be fair, who cares what you say?
Everyone has the right to an opinion..even if it doesn't sit well with you, or anyone one else for that matter.
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Nobody wants to comment on Psalms 22, written by David, thousands of years before Yashua was crucified?
It's a common misconception that he really did feel forsaken, and that's why he quoted this psalm. Not so, he was teaching right up to the end of his life.
7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:
8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."
The people WERE saying this almost word for word.
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
This is more of a reference to demonic spirits, who I'm sure were there in abundance.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.
Remember they tried to offer him something to drink on a sponge?
16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
The most obvious one of all.
17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.
After the whipping tore his back open, you would have seen organs and bones.
18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.
Another most obvious one.
19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.
He really wasn't foresaken.
20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
Is this where Pink Floyd got their lyrics "better watch out, there may be dogs around." "That's what you get for pretending the dangers not real" ONe of my favorite songs.
And from another Psalm, to me most incredible of all:
He protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken.
Psalm 34:20
New Testament Fulfillment
Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down. The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.
But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water. The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.
These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken," and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one they have pierced."
John 19:31-37
It's a common misconception that he really did feel forsaken, and that's why he quoted this psalm. Not so, he was teaching right up to the end of his life.
7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:
8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."
The people WERE saying this almost word for word.
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
This is more of a reference to demonic spirits, who I'm sure were there in abundance.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.
Remember they tried to offer him something to drink on a sponge?
16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
The most obvious one of all.
17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.
After the whipping tore his back open, you would have seen organs and bones.
18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.
Another most obvious one.
19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.
He really wasn't foresaken.
20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
Is this where Pink Floyd got their lyrics "better watch out, there may be dogs around." "That's what you get for pretending the dangers not real" ONe of my favorite songs.
And from another Psalm, to me most incredible of all:
He protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken.
Psalm 34:20
New Testament Fulfillment
Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down. The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.
But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water. The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.
These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken," and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one they have pierced."
John 19:31-37
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it doesn't matter what people believe, the end will be the same. some people think that if they don't believe it, it won't happen. however, we'll all be there in the end standing before christ. that's how it will go down.
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You came in on the middle of a situation.
drivenbysound: To be fair, who cares what you say?
Everyone has the right to an opinion..even if it doesn't sit well with you, or anyone one else for that matter.
Everyone has the right to an opinion..even if it doesn't sit well with you, or anyone one else for that matter.
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norslyman: 16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
May I ask what are Hebrew words translated here as 'pierced'?
norslyman: He protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken.
Psalm 34:20
Psalm 34:20
Aren't these just David's suffering quoted out of context?
norslyman: These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken," and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one they have pierced."
How can we be sure that these things weren't just added so it seems like it was prophesied?
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crotalus_p: They are the oldest denomination
Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England
Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England
That’s exactly what I learned in history class during school. They teach us some English history because its important. It was over Henry the 8th divorce that the Protestant church was created or at least the Church of England. Then he ended up beheading his new wife anyway. Anne Boleyn? I named my Alpaca after English Royalty.
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agman: God is the ideal of all that is good. If u believe one thing
is better than another, then u believe in God.
is better than another, then u believe in God.
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crotalus_p: They are the oldest denomination
Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England
Henry was a "Johnny Come Lately",and anything but a Protestant.Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England
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Conrad73: Henry was a "Johnny Come Lately",and anything but a Protestant.
I think he said it "led to the formation" of the Protestant church. That was sometime later under that German Monk, Martin Luther right? King Henry was the first and he formed the Church of England simply because he could as king. He wanted a divorce and the Pope would not grant it. That’s what I understood from Crotalus' comment but I'll let him respond.
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Conrad73: Henry was a "Johnny Come Lately",and anything but a Protestant.
Yeah, but Henry was the one with the power and the lustful loins - lust cant be such a bad thing after all or it may have taken a heck of a lot longer for protestantism to get established
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trish123: Yeah, but Henry was the one with the power and the lustful loins - lust cant be such a bad thing after all or it may have taken a heck of a lot longer for protestantism to get established
Exactly. King Henry 8 was the jumpstart so to speak and he proved that the Roman Catholic Church could in fact be denied and in particular, the pope. The pope had told Henry "No Divorce for you, sir"!
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calmheartseeks: How do you account for all the fulfilled prophecies regarding Jesus in Scripture? That is one of the strongest evidences of it being divinely inspired, and I am curious as to those who are sure Scripture is not inspired think of these prophecies and how they came to that conclusion.
Uhmm... then what does that make Nostradamas? If you write them just right, significantly vague enough with lots of colorful words, practically any event can seem to have been prophesized (after the fact!).
When somebody comes up with a prophesy regarding the name of the horse that will next win at Delta Downs, now THAT I'd like to know about JUST BEFORE it happens!
ps. But please, let's keep that prophesy just between me and you ok?
- Michael ("American by birth, Texan by the Grace of God!")
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Oooh! Oooh! And the Branch Dividians leader prophesized as I recall now that they would be consumed in fire (or maybe just him, I can't remember exactly), and then they were! So then, what does that make him? Oooh!
Of course the fact that they were using flame lit lanterns throughout their compound with alot of flammable materials in the same rooms and hallways did not affect his prophecy at all I'd imagine...
I'm not comparing Nostradamas nor the Branch Dividian leader (what's his name? Keresh?) to Jesus mind you, but I am trying to make the point that prophesy is in the eye of the beholder and hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to take an event that happens and then go looking for some writings that "foretold" that event.
- Michael ("American by birth, Texan by the Grace of God!")
Of course the fact that they were using flame lit lanterns throughout their compound with alot of flammable materials in the same rooms and hallways did not affect his prophecy at all I'd imagine...
I'm not comparing Nostradamas nor the Branch Dividian leader (what's his name? Keresh?) to Jesus mind you, but I am trying to make the point that prophesy is in the eye of the beholder and hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to take an event that happens and then go looking for some writings that "foretold" that event.
- Michael ("American by birth, Texan by the Grace of God!")
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is better than another, then u believe in God.