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May 1, 2009 4:09 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Conrad73: If my Auntie......!


so i begged to speculate.........anything wrong with that???

at no instance did i say i'm coming to take the guns away from you guys.........

but thats the problem with you guys is that YOUR allowed to speculate how good things will be if everyone is armed
....but i cannot speculate of what MIGHT'VE happened, given the hutu's had've been FULLY ARMED with military weapons
(and i mean ALL, not just some)doh

your just so hypocritical when facing the mirror.....roll eyes
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May 1, 2009 4:18 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
rocketqueen: so i begged to speculate.........anything wrong with that???

at no instance did i say i'm coming to take the guns away from you guys.........

but thats the problem with you guys is that YOUR allowed to speculate how good things will be if everyone is armed
....but i cannot speculate of what MIGHT'VE happened, given the hutu's had've been FULLY ARMED with military weapons
(and i mean ALL, not just some)

your just so hypocritical when facing the mirror.....
Well,if you say so.........rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 1, 2009 4:59 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Conrad73: Well,if you say so.........


shoulda known better to have tried to debate with a bunch of people who if you dont agree with them start trying to lambast you, and think your coming to cut off their pen*s..........

roll eyes doh uh oh uh oh
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May 1, 2009 5:02 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
rocketqueen: .........well i dont advocate medicating youths.........

.............but i do agree with psyche evaluations at the start of puberty and every year after (based on a holistic counselling process).............
And who will give the testers on a monthly basis evaluations and who will say what is normal. That is what the problem is putting labels on kids instead of busting thier a-- when it needs it. IMO Oh and no one and I do mean no one will give my kid a psyche evaluation unless I ok it and think it is needed. professor
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May 1, 2009 5:43 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
rocketqueen: so i begged to speculate.........anything wrong with that???

at no instance did i say i'm coming to take the guns away from you guys.........

but thats the problem with you guys is that YOUR allowed to speculate how good things will be if everyone is armed
....but i cannot speculate of what MIGHT'VE happened, given the hutu's had've been FULLY ARMED with military weapons
(and i mean ALL, not just some)

your just so hypocritical when facing the mirror.....
I'd be dead for a looong time if I were!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
But then,you wouldn't know that!
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May 1, 2009 6:59 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
rocketqueen: i aint going there again....we have already debated this topic a million times and you all know my thoughts......the horse is not only flogged to death but its rotting corpse is stinking......


That was yesterday.
Today he's ressurected, in perfect health, and he's got wings.
It's a miracle.
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May 1, 2009 7:03 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
RayfromUSA: That was yesterday.
Today he's ressurected, in perfect health, and he's got wings.
It's a miracle.
PEGASUS!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 1, 2009 7:21 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Conrad73: PEGASUS!


Maybe, or it could be one of the four horses of the apocalypse.
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May 7, 2009 5:07 PM CST MASS SHOOTING
Whooops
WhooopsWhooopsBournemouth, Dorset, England UK32 Posts
After reading the whole thread again, with the exception of one brave American citizen every one (unless i accidently missed one and i hope i missed more than one) is pro-gun on here, how on earth do you expect to teach children by example ???? Yeah let the teachers have guns, and the pilots, and the air stweards, oh and the security guards and while we are at it let the social workers and the doctors, medical staff and the receptionists there have a gun too ..... where does it end, it doesnt does it !!!

And the Muppet that said its about disciplining your children - and you cant hit them anymore because social services would be at your door - oh come on, is that the only way to discipline children? if so, then you really need to take some parenting classes.

And bravo to whoever it was who posted the gun stats ... it speaks volumes about cultures !

If you want less mass shootings then get rid of your guns, you are all responsible people, any moron knows it will take a long time to eradicate them and you will never get rid of them all but cant you teach your children by example ???? Children are a product of what adults make them, they learn from us, so why cant we teach them well, why cant we be responsible for making their world a safer place?

There will never be world peace because there is always some lunatic but its about preventative work rather than reactionary or is that too simple ???

I apologise if i sound harsh but i cant get my head around you wanting less mass shootings but your not prepared to relinquish the world of guns ..... it doesnt make sense, its like wanting to dip your marshmallow in a chocolate fountain but not wanting to buy the chocolate; it wont happen !!!!
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May 7, 2009 5:11 PM CST MASS SHOOTING
Whooops: After reading the whole thread again, with the exception of one brave American citizen every one (unless i accidently missed one and i hope i missed more than one) is pro-gun on here, how on earth do you expect to teach children by example ???? Yeah let the teachers have guns, and the pilots, and the air stweards, oh and the security guards and while we are at it let the social workers and the doctors, medical staff and the receptionists there have a gun too ..... where does it end, it doesnt does it !!!

And the Muppet that said its about disciplining your children - and you cant hit them anymore because social services would be at your door - oh come on, is that the only way to discipline children? if so, then you really need to take some parenting classes.

And bravo to whoever it was who posted the gun stats ... it speaks volumes about cultures !

If you want less mass shootings then get rid of your guns, you are all responsible people, any moron knows it will take a long time to eradicate them and you will never get rid of them all but cant you teach your children by example ???? Children are a product of what adults make them, they learn from us, so why cant we teach them well, why cant we be responsible for making their world a safer place?

There will never be world peace because there is always some lunatic but its about preventative work rather than reactionary or is that too simple ???

I apologise if i sound harsh but i cant get my head around you wanting less mass shootings but your not prepared to relinquish the world of guns ..... it doesnt make sense, its like wanting to dip your marshmallow in a chocolate fountain but not wanting to buy the chocolate; it wont happen !!!!
Yep,you're definitely qualified talking about the matter,especially the way you let your Government steal your Firearms!



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May 7, 2009 5:18 PM CST MASS SHOOTING
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
Whooops: After reading the whole thread again, with the exception of one brave American citizen every one (unless i accidently missed one and i hope i missed more than one) is pro-gun on here, how on earth do you expect to teach children by example ???? Yeah let the teachers have guns, and the pilots, and the air stweards, oh and the security guards and while we are at it let the social workers and the doctors, medical staff and the receptionists there have a gun too ..... where does it end, it doesnt does it !!!

And the Muppet that said its about disciplining your children - and you cant hit them anymore because social services would be at your door - oh come on, is that the only way to discipline children? if so, then you really need to take some parenting classes.

And bravo to whoever it was who posted the gun stats ... it speaks volumes about cultures !

If you want less mass shootings then get rid of your guns, you are all responsible people, any moron knows it will take a long time to eradicate them and you will never get rid of them all but cant you teach your children by example ???? Children are a product of what adults make them, they learn from us, so why cant we teach them well, why cant we be responsible for making their world a safer place?

There will never be world peace because there is always some lunatic but its about preventative work rather than reactionary or is that too simple ???

I apologise if i sound harsh but i cant get my head around you wanting less mass shootings but your not prepared to relinquish the world of guns ..... it doesnt make sense, its like wanting to dip your marshmallow in a chocolate fountain but not wanting to buy the chocolate; it wont happen !!!!
If childern learn by example of course this is true, so why not keep the guns and take all the songs, and tv shows that promote the killing and drugs and gangs and the disrespecting of parents off the air then, that would do much more than taking the gun away from good people that are law abiding folks, you really do not see the point at all do you, or is it you just refuse to open your mind to something else, agian if you wish for us to except other cultures then except ours as well....dunno
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May 8, 2009 8:39 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
romeo22
romeo22romeo22Bangkok, Central Thailand Thailand54 Threads 2 Polls 132 Posts
jessejess47: thank you I missed this the other day....


how safe are we if every one holding gus and if no one holds gun aslo how safe our community will be
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May 8, 2009 9:56 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
romeo22: how safe are we if every one holding gus and if no one holds gun aslo how safe our community will be
Dream On!help
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May 8, 2009 10:46 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
PeachesandRay
PeachesandRayPeachesandRayConcord, North Carolina USA72 Threads 1 Polls 1,358 Posts
Whooops: After reading the whole thread again, with the exception of one brave American citizen every one (unless i accidently missed one and i hope i missed more than one) is pro-gun on here, how on earth do you expect to teach children by example ???? Yeah let the teachers have guns, and the pilots, and the air stweards, oh and the security guards and while we are at it let the social workers and the doctors, medical staff and the receptionists there have a gun too ..... where does it end, it doesnt does it !!!

And the Muppet that said its about disciplining your children - and you cant hit them anymore because social services would be at your door - oh come on, is that the only way to discipline children? if so, then you really need to take some parenting classes.

And bravo to whoever it was who posted the gun stats ... it speaks volumes about cultures !

If you want less mass shootings then get rid of your guns, you are all responsible people, any moron knows it will take a long time to eradicate them and you will never get rid of them all but cant you teach your children by example ???? Children are a product of what adults make them, they learn from us, so why cant we teach them well, why cant we be responsible for making their world a safer place?

There will never be world peace because there is always some lunatic but its about preventative work rather than reactionary or is that too simple ???

I apologise if i sound harsh but i cant get my head around you wanting less mass shootings but your not prepared to relinquish the world of guns ..... it doesnt make sense, its like wanting to dip your marshmallow in a chocolate fountain but not wanting to buy the chocolate; it wont happen !!!!


Hey, just because I'm short doesn't mean you can call me names.grin

I believe I mentioned somewhere that I was raised in a home where my parents didn't believe in hitting but we KNEW they had the right to.

As for the parenting classes, don't need them. One is out on his own and the other can't wait to get out of his mothers house away from his step father



Earl
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May 8, 2009 10:49 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
xfahctor
xfahctorxfahctorlancaster, New Hampshire USA44 Threads 1,643 Posts
First, to adress the initial original post. I think they should keep a wary eye, more so than they do, but where do we draw the line? If we start talking psychological evaluations for every student we are sticking our toes in to orwellian territory. We must tread VERY carefully when we start talking on this fringe.
Now, for the rest of the thread. I did in fact take the time to read through the entire thread, though, judging from some responses, many did NOT read the entire thread and brought up issues that were dealt with in other posts. Please folks, when discussing important issues in a forum, READ ENTIRE THREADS, not just the original post and skip to the end for your own, READ EVERYTHING.
On to gun control/gun laws/gun bans etc.
To everyone outside the U.S. The right to own guns in this country is more than just the right to own a gun, WE are the ulitmate defenders of our liberty. Who are we to trust to preserve our freedoms from tyrany...our government? rolling on the floor laughing ......Please, these are the people who we were charged with defending our liberty from. THOSE are the people the second amendment was written to protect us from, go read the wording of the amendment:
A well regulated milita, being nessesary for the security of a free state, the right of the people ot keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ~amendment 2, u.s. constitution.
And a few wordds from one of our founders:
"when the people fear the government, there is tyrany, when the government fears the people, there is liberty" ~ Thomas Jefferson

More gun laws WILL NOT WORK Period. Criminals already break laws, why would more laws make them obey laws? How is that even remotely logical. Seriously? How does that make any sense to you at all? While we're at it why don't we make robbing banks illegal to stop bank robbing.

We have always had guns in this country, to round them up would be IMPOSSIBLE, so they will always be available no matter how many of them you restrict. the only thing restrictions acomplish is to take guns from honest people. To systematicly emilinate or evebn reduce the number of guns in this country is again, an impossibility, YOU CANNOT ACOMPLISH THIS, with laws, round ups or any other means.

Automatic weapons (also called "machine guns") are already illegal in the U.S.

"Assault weapon" is a buzz word. Most "assault weapons" are nothing more then semi- (not fully) automatic versions of normal caliber weapons and are no more powerfull than most hunting weapons.

Knife deaths in schools in this country out number gun deaths almost 80 to 1.

Car deaths among students in the U.S. out number gun deaths by almost 1000 to 1.

The federal government in the U.S. has no constitutional authority to regulate guns


Shortly after the gun round up in australia, crime skyrocketed, leaving the government scratching it's head as to why.... doh
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May 8, 2009 11:02 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
xfahctor
xfahctorxfahctorlancaster, New Hampshire USA44 Threads 1,643 Posts
And then theres this:
A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year but ministers still insist crime rates are falling
"More than 350 people are the victim of knife assaults every day in England and Wales, the latest crime figures have revealed....."
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May 8, 2009 11:41 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
Whooops
WhooopsWhooopsBournemouth, Dorset, England UK32 Posts
jessejess47, conrad: If childern learn by example of course this is true, so why not keep the guns and take all the songs, and tv shows that promote the killing and drugs and gangs and the disrespecting of parents off the air then, that would do much more than taking the gun away from good people that are law abiding folks, you really do not see the point at all do you, or is it you just refuse to open your mind to something else, agian if you wish for us to except other cultures then except ours as well....


And you're saying i dont get the point ??? I think i do, i think my eyes are wide open but at which point are you willing to draw the line as to who can and who cant own a gun in your country ? I havent professed to be an expert here; its common sense, surely ?
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May 8, 2009 11:43 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
Whooops
WhooopsWhooopsBournemouth, Dorset, England UK32 Posts
PeachesandRay: Hey, just because I'm short doesn't mean you can call me names.



My apologies, Muppet was unfair, i was on a roll lol
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May 8, 2009 11:54 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
Whooops: And you're saying i dont get the point ??? I think i do, i think my eyes are wide open but at which point are you willing to draw the line as to who can and who cant own a gun in your country ? I haven't professed to be an expert here; its common sense, surely ?
There are Laws in place regulating that!
Read up on them!


"A gun in the hands of a free man frightens and angers the government, not because they fear the power of the gun, but, rather, the spirit of the man who holds it."





That is why they took yours!
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May 8, 2009 11:57 AM CST MASS SHOOTING
xfahctor
xfahctorxfahctorlancaster, New Hampshire USA44 Threads 1,643 Posts
Read up on them!"A gun in the hands of a free man frightens and angers the government, not because they fear the power of the gun, but, rather, the spirit of the man who holds it."That is why they took yours!

"when the people fear the government, there is tyrany, when the government fears the people, there is liberty"There are Laws in place regulating that!
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