Gun Control - Yes/No? Don't Take My Guns! (304)
pointhunter: that waS FOR ROBBIE
I think you missed my point, i don't want to lock you up, but some of your fellow Americans have the opinion that some want to lock some of you up, and they use that as an excuse to buy more guns!
I don't think as i said if the local police came calling to forcible disarm you you would be able to do anything with respect by either throw out your guns or basically fill a body bag.
I don't think your governements out to get you, do you?
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rocketqueen: no i much prefer tickle torture.....then they wet their pants...
I feel obliged to advise everyone that i am not ticklish, well apart from my feet
That and you'd have to be armed to get me to stay still long enough to even try to tie me up.
Oh and bring Steven Segal with you, he's big enough to hold me down and his Akido is decent enough that i'd have to sit still
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Paradox67: Yea Bobbie! You can't baste a lamb and expect us to agree! We eat lamb and anything else we can shoot. Well, not me. They took my gun away because a drug dealer / p*dophile that I turned in attacked me and I defended myself. He happened to be friends with local police. Go figure.
But I can still throw a bullet pretty hard and give you a nice lump on your farhead.
But I can still throw a bullet pretty hard and give you a nice lump on your farhead.
The point i was making was some justify excessive gun ownership on the impending New World Order where your own Government will intern you all.
None of you sane people can actually believe this? If you really do believe it try finding some Ex French Foreign Legion guy's that fought in the volunteer division defending Croatia in the Balkans.
They were all armed, well trained, but basically walked through by a professional army.
Surely the American citizen doesn't believe to a man woman and child that it can out shoot and manouvre it's own military?
I honestly believe the types of weapons and availability and the licensing needs to be looked at.
Too many nuts can get weapons, and when automatic and tactical weapons are made unavailable, along with "Tri Burst" triggers or simular AR14 conversion kits then the sooner the capability for a nutcase t slaughter their entire school class or workplace will be ruled out.
An average 9mm with say an extended mag will allow 20 rounds say, but a combine rifle, or AR14 converted with 1000 rounds of ammo means a tactical unit, snipers and a coordinated assault to get rid of just one man!
But until anyone arrives, say an semi experienced person can fire of 600 rounds 0f 7.62 rounds per minute.
these will happily go through cars, walls and people......
Granted you can shoot a deer with one too, but then so can you with a Remington Tactical rifle.So why not control weapons for home defence(say 9mm/40cal/.357/.45 pistol/shotgun) and only allow bolt action hunting rifles for sporting purposes?
If you cant hit a deer with a Remington rifle that's the standard police sniper rifle, well you shouldn't be going hunting.
But if you don't do something about licensing and availability of weapons you'll have more loons killing more citizens every year.
Strange, the people of Switzerland don't seem to want to shoot each other up with their assault rifles?
Maybe it's just Americans that have the propensity because of their history that feel more secure if they have weapons around.
If that's the case, move outside cities, and then your kids stand less chance of being shot in a drive by shooting.
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Conrad73: Wait 'til them Birds come for you Robbie!
Ironically i'm going for a job interview tomorrow to make sure aircraft security is maintained
I'll know if their on the way, i'll be amongst them
So i promise to let you know if their all gassed up with nets to drop over the populace
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RobbieM: Ironically i'm going for a job interview tomorrow to make sure aircraft security is maintained
I'll know if their on the way, i'll be amongst them
So i promise to let you know if their all gassed up with nets to drop over the populace
I'll know if their on the way, i'll be amongst them
So i promise to let you know if their all gassed up with nets to drop over the populace
Starting to feel like Planet of the Apes time. Maybe we can give lead role to Indy.....he fits the role.
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If we put Indy in charge of anything he'll want to bomb just one residence....in Denmark
We'll have to ask if Indy has naturally Furry arms or shaves his back?
Strange as i watched Planet of the Apes yesterday!
Maybe we could do a role = membership name.
I'm not sure what role i'd be, some smelly chimp with a high iq being underused and overqualified for a job probably.
We'll have to ask if Indy has naturally Furry arms or shaves his back?
Strange as i watched Planet of the Apes yesterday!
Maybe we could do a role = membership name.
I'm not sure what role i'd be, some smelly chimp with a high iq being underused and overqualified for a job probably.
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RobbieM: Maybe it's just Americans that have the propensity because of their history that feel more secure if they have weapons around.
If that's the case, move outside cities, and then your kids stand less chance of being shot in a drive by shooting.
Robbie, that may be the case for some, not all. I do not live in a city. The closest city to me is roughly 80 miles away. We do have several towns--some large, some mediocre but where I live is in the sticks, mountains, where there are wild animals roaming freely about which range from bob cats, coyote to bears, wolves and mountain lions. I frequent the uninhabited areas of the mountains regularly and I do see such predators often and, I never go without a firearm.If that's the case, move outside cities, and then your kids stand less chance of being shot in a drive by shooting.
I do not worry about drive-by shootings here, it is nonexistent but, I have lived in a few larger cities where it does happen.
So yes, I do feel more secure with having weapons around but, it's not for any reason concerning criminals but rather, for predators. To disarm me will definitely change my lifestyle and if that day comes, I might as well become a mindless drone and remain indoors. I do not wish to live a life where I cannot be free to do the things I enjoy doing.
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PeachesandRay: If I were to follow that advise if someone broke into my home with the intent to steal and cause bodily harm, it would be too frigging late to leave it to the "professionals"
If someone were to break into my home while I'm there, they will will not end up being a burden on society by being sent to prison. Instead they will be 6 feet under.
Earl
If someone were to break into my home while I'm there, they will will not end up being a burden on society by being sent to prison. Instead they will be 6 feet under.
Earl
remind me not to visit you un-announced earl
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jlw45: yea, i agree...stats can be twisted, and have been, to push whatever agenda is being pushed
i will say this about aus....its been 12years since the gun amnesty, and we havnt been made a dictatorship yet......
the gun amnesty has worked for us...........and yeh i think dave wrote he can leave his keys in his car.......i could do that here in portarlington.......the most dangerous thing round here is the grannys running you down with their shopping carts......
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rocketqueen: i will say this about aus....its been 12years since the gun amnesty, and we havnt been made a dictatorship yet......
the gun amnesty has worked for us...........and yeh i think dave wrote he can leave his keys in his car.......i could do that here in portarlington.......the most dangerous thing round here is the grannys running you down with their shopping carts......
But do you have major gangs in your cities like we do. They in all of them here, small towns rarely have any luckily.the gun amnesty has worked for us...........and yeh i think dave wrote he can leave his keys in his car.......i could do that here in portarlington.......the most dangerous thing round here is the grannys running you down with their shopping carts......
Well they are all carry illegal guns. And rob and shoot people all of the time.
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mylifewithu: But do you have major gangs in your cities like we do. They in all of them here, small towns rarely have any luckily. Well they are all carry illegal guns. And rob and shoot people all of the time.
I remember cuing at a greyhound bus station in Los Angeles in 1989 where the two guards guarding the cue were armed with shotguns!
Once you left the cue it felt like you were on your own and almost like waiting to be picked off by criminals, almost akin to being a shipwreck survivor with the sharks circling!
Parts of New Orleans at that time were so dangerous that an undercover policeman i met there told me that the area between the greyhound the bus garage and my hotel was so dangerous that he told me i'd be shot first for my trainers then they'd rob my corpse.
He then drove me to my hotel to make sure i got there ok, as i was going to walk it.
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mylifewithu: But do you have major gangs in your cities like we do. They in all of them here, small towns rarely have any luckily. Well they are all carry illegal guns. And rob and shoot people all of the time.
definitely not on the scale you guys have.......our gangs-bangers will bash someone or stab them, but are highly unprofessional, and prone to delusion of grandeur and power......really its kinda like comparing apples to oranges........the really dangerous dudes here in aus are the underbelly dudes, who have honor amongst thieves (not prone to irrational cowardly drive-byes) but more likely to murder in the name of 'honour' (sorta more like the mafiaoso)...
and unfortunately some have the cops in their pockets.........
way more dangerous than the gang-bangers, but highly unlikely to have innocent people caught in the crossfire.......
google mark 'chopper' reid, dennis allen, roger rogerson, neddy smith, terry clarke, alphonse gangitano, jason moran, carl williams......
as i said before way more dangerous, but not irrational and hot headed like the gang-bangers
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YouMeUs: Robbie, that may be the case for some, not all. I do not live in a city. The closest city to me is roughly 80 miles away. We do have several towns--some large, some mediocre but where I live is in the sticks, mountains, where there are wild animals roaming freely about which range from bob cats, coyote to bears, wolves and mountain lions. I frequent the uninhabited areas of the mountains regularly and I do see such predators often and, I never go without a firearm.
I do not worry about drive-by shootings here, it is nonexistent but, I have lived in a few larger cities where it does happen.
So yes, I do feel more secure with having weapons around but, it's not for any reason concerning criminals but rather, for predators. To disarm me will definitely change my lifestyle and if that day comes, I might as well become a mindless drone and remain indoors. I do not wish to live a life where I cannot be free to do the things I enjoy doing.
I do not worry about drive-by shootings here, it is nonexistent but, I have lived in a few larger cities where it does happen.
So yes, I do feel more secure with having weapons around but, it's not for any reason concerning criminals but rather, for predators. To disarm me will definitely change my lifestyle and if that day comes, I might as well become a mindless drone and remain indoors. I do not wish to live a life where I cannot be free to do the things I enjoy doing.
I have to say, from the sound of the area your living in would almost be an ideal place for me to live!
I have a friend in Alaska who has a grisly hide in his land way up from Fairbanks.
I have to say i'm dead jealous, and would love to live somewhere so rugged with the type of local wildlife you have on your doorstep.
That said, clearly a loaded weapon would be necessary just in case a bear stumbles upon you with a cub, because that would b far more dangerous than a group of gang bangers high on crack with a tec9.
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rocketqueen: hi dave i dont really want to take americans guns away from them,
i just hate that bloody email and that revolting and untrue stats it spews forth, an the alarmist statement at the end
what are you talking about...i just hate that bloody email and that revolting and untrue stats it spews forth, an the alarmist statement at the end
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jessejess47: what are you talking about...
the OP'S opening statement, the email from ed cheney, about the aussie stats...thats what i was referring to...........
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rocketqueen: differing opinions, no-one is really going to change their mind..
but for me i have a way better understanding of why you have guns, and why it is so ingrained in america, just like hopefully i have helped you understand why we dont have certain ones here in aus, and informed you of the correct stats for australia, and that is what debates are all about arent they??.....
but i will say this, would you object to a psychiatric asessment before people applied for gun ownership???
And eventually you'd need one to buy any Edged Tool?but for me i have a way better understanding of why you have guns, and why it is so ingrained in america, just like hopefully i have helped you understand why we dont have certain ones here in aus, and informed you of the correct stats for australia, and that is what debates are all about arent they??.....
but i will say this, would you object to a psychiatric asessment before people applied for gun ownership???
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Conrad73: And eventually you'd need one to buy any Edged Tool?
Slippery slope fallacy. After they take away our guns, its a done deal, because pitchforks are ineffective against tanks.
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wixomwizard: Why would the criminal factions want to give up their lifestyle when they know that if they get caught, they get to spend time in the Levenworth Hilton or better. Have you seen the new jail in Chicago? Perp's are just aching to get sent there in the Chicago area. It looks like more of a resort than a jail.
That doesn't surprise me one bit. It is number reason crime pays here.Now in other countries where maybe prison is more like a prison, they might not want to do the crime to begin with.
That is a part of the system they need to change. Make prisons a prison again. 
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mylifewithu: That doesn't surprise me one bit. It is number reason crime pays here.
Now in other countries where maybe prison is more like a prison, they might not want to do the crime to begin with. That is a part of the system they need to change. Make prisons a prison again.
Now in other countries where maybe prison is more like a prison, they might not want to do the crime to begin with. That is a part of the system they need to change. Make prisons a prison again.
In order to do that we'd have to make crime...crime again. You know. Toss murderers on the street to make room for a guy who got busted with an 8-ball of coke. That's real smart. A few people will die, but damn we got our dangerous drug-user behind bars now.
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It certainly isn't a secret bunch of people to arbitrarily round up Americans and put them in internment camps as the waco conspiracy theorists would have you believe.
Good examples would be the New Orleans flooding (which someone cocked up) and other natural disasters such as when a tornado travels through the midwest making an area a disaster area and is designated a disaster.
Any resources are pulled in, national guard, anyone who's near, but this doesn't mean the governments out to get you!
If you see a black helicopter, that's the default colour before they are sent to combat duty.It's the same right here in the UK. there not secret helicopters by a secret government agency waiting to round up people into camps.