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Jun 20, 2009 6:51 PM CST No hope for Iran
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
enola1: I am glad u r come forward from u r "luv thyself veil"

Obama had the merit ( u cannt deny tht, well u may be deny tht, bcoz hate makes u blind) beside he had a hard working mother, and granny, he was not like Bush read at Ive league by his father's power(compare both of their educational background u would get the answer) and avoid to join army by tht same privilege.

Can I claim tht u only find this line unacceptable? Others u cannt deny ? do u ?
Careful there BRO,ur ruining ur christian image.laugh
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Jun 20, 2009 6:52 PM CST No hope for Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
reconmarine: I have to apologize but I've only read your last 20 or so posts. Where should I start?


Don't bother RECONMARINE, he left......laugh
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Jun 20, 2009 6:52 PM CST No hope for Iran
reconmarine
reconmarinereconmarineLittleton, New Hampshire USA3 Threads 3 Polls 61 Posts
ttom500: By the way where were those radical Muslim before 1990 ?

Maybe in Tehran taking over the US Embassy

Maybe on the Achille Laruiel killing one Francis Killenghoffer

Maybe in Beriut, bombing the US Marine Barracks

Maybe in Beriut, bombing the US Embassy

Maybe in Lybia, plotting the PAM AM bombing

Maybe in Algeria, fighting against the French

Maybe in hijacking a number of commercial aircraft and flying them to many foreign countries....

Maybe in south Saudi learning from Whabbist clerics to be Jahidist (bin Laden)

Maybe at the assignation of Awar Sadat in Egypt

Maybe in Lebanon kidnapping Americans

Maybe in Afghanistan/Pakistan in the 1880s, when the Sepoy rebellions occurred against the British.

It goes back a long, long time in history....Enolal

And we know it now. And we are aware of it.


Great post Ttom500,

And that's only the short list.
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Jun 20, 2009 6:58 PM CST No hope for Iran
reconmarine
reconmarinereconmarineLittleton, New Hampshire USA3 Threads 3 Polls 61 Posts
ttom500: Don't bother RECONMARINE, he left......


Figures! I'm always late to the party!
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Jun 20, 2009 8:55 PM CST No hope for Iran
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
ooby_dooby: It looks like there will be no recount or revote for the presidency of Iran.

"Iran's supreme leader said Friday that there was "definitive victory" and no rigging in disputed presidential elections, offering no concession to protesters demanding the vote be canceled and held again."



One can only wonder where this will lead, but my guess is this is not the end of the story.

How fortunate we are not to be ruled by the pope or some other religeous figure!


We had the same questions when Mr Bush was reeleacted .We dont have to worry much about this . Reelection is normal in democracy .Knowing Iran from a very close quarter and living in Tehran for a decade I know that Iran has very robust political and law enforcing order . These charges are absolute rubbish.outburst of an immature politicians frustations,fuelled by some western forces Leave this aside for a few days and it will die down. Iran will continue to resurge as it has been doing under Ahemedjani .Their industrial growth and technolicical advancement under Mr Ahmedaji has been very impressive in last 5 years .SO there is enough scope for good future for Iran . Lest respect the people's verdict and My all them best goes to them. Congrats.
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Jun 20, 2009 9:05 PM CST No hope for Iran
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
enola1: By the way where were those radical Muslim before 1990 ?
Mr. Obama did a great job at cairo by admitting some past mistakes , by respecting religious point of views .He mentioned the verse of Holy Quran "If anybody kills a innocent it is as if he kills whole man kind and if anybody saves one it is as if he saves whole mankind" by only mentioning this verse he made those extremist weak who uses USA's unjust behavior to kill innocent ppl, he at least made it little bit difficult for them to hire men to do bomb blast. If bombing was the solution why more and more USA General became fed up with Bush policy? u want to bomb who want to led a different life?


Obams Cairo speeches and Iranian elections needs to be read togeher . He was actually campaigning for the Opponent of Mr Ahmendjani. He wanted the Anti American sentiments in Iran to cool down and turn that into votes. So Egyipt was the best place and a president who has some muslim connection was the best man to do the job .but he has failed miserably in achieving anything.
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Jun 20, 2009 9:05 PM CST No hope for Iran
reconmarine
reconmarinereconmarineLittleton, New Hampshire USA3 Threads 3 Polls 61 Posts
bollywood: We had the same questions when Mr Bush was reeleacted .We dont have to worry much about this . Reelection is normal in democracy .Knowing Iran from a very close quarter and living in Tehran for a decade I know that Iran has very robust political and law enforcing order . These charges are absolute rubbish.outburst of an immature politicians frustations,fuelled by some western forces Leave this aside for a few days and it will die down. Iran will continue to resurge as it has been doing under Ahemedjani .Their industrial growth and technolicical advancement under Mr Ahmedaji has been very impressive in last 5 years .SO there is enough scope for good future for Iran . Lest respect the people's verdict and My all them best goes to them. Congrats.


YES...it has been a very impressive regime. How many women have been stoned to death for not having their head covered. How many people have been killed in the last week for expressing their free speech? Very impressive indeed. When you yearn for a taste of freedom...then come back and talk to me.
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Jun 20, 2009 9:23 PM CST No hope for Iran
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
bollywood: This is a typical issues . You guys dont know what is going on your own coutry .but know the miutest details about everything happening around Iran,Iraq .North Korea and with alquida.



You didn't answer my question.scold
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Jun 20, 2009 9:27 PM CST No hope for Iran
talon1313
talon1313talon1313Pleasanton, California USA76 Posts
ooby_dooby: It looks like there will be no recount or revote for the presidency of Iran.

"Iran's supreme leader said Friday that there was "definitive victory" and no rigging in disputed presidential elections, offering no concession to protesters demanding the vote be canceled and held again."



One can only wonder where this will lead, but my guess is this is not the end of the story.

How fortunate we are not to be ruled by the pope or some other religeous figure!


Well this is the same exact situation that happened here in American when george bush took over this country illegally...
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Jun 20, 2009 9:53 PM CST No hope for Iran
reconmarine
reconmarinereconmarineLittleton, New Hampshire USA3 Threads 3 Polls 61 Posts
bollywood: Again the "oppression" is just a perception .I lived there and was never oppressed in any way . Iranian women are doing a fine job in their countries . they are there in every spheres of social life . They are outgoing and achieving . In my organization there are a lot of woman working .They are happy as working woman, happy as wifes and mothers .They too have the fredom to do what is right .I dont see a problem there what you see from a distant place . These news and information you get in your place are nothing but distorted and propaganda based


A "perception"??? Again, I have experienced the oppression of women in the middle east not just watched them on television. Are you of the opinion of a man who intends to keep them oppressed? I am sure that if you asked any radical Iranian man they would tell you that their women are happy and doing just fine.
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Jun 20, 2009 9:58 PM CST No hope for Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
bollywood: We had the same questions when Mr Bush was reeleacted .We dont have to worry much about this . Reelection is normal in democracy .Knowing Iran from a very close quarter and living in Tehran for a decade I know that Iran has very robust political and law enforcing order . These charges are absolute rubbish.outburst of an immature politicians frustations,fuelled by some western forces Leave this aside for a few days and it will die down. Iran will continue to resurge as it has been doing under Ahemedjani .Their industrial growth and technolicical advancement under Mr Ahmedaji has been very impressive in last 5 years .SO there is enough scope for good future for Iran . Lest respect the people's verdict and My all them best goes to them. Congrats.


They seem to be getting a lot of assistance from Russia for that industrial growth. Nuclear reactors....nuclear processing systems....nuclear technologies.....and add in a few Russsian weapons systems...like the SA-400, the nuc caring rocket torpedo called Hoot (from the Shkval),the Jafir-7 stealth missile (from the Topol-M).

But then about 4 weeks ago.....Russia started to drift from Pres. A. Said that the US had correctly estimated the nuclear material program of Iran, that Iran had enough material for a nuc. That Russia wanted the balance of the year to assess thing. Then when Pres. A is to have a meeting with Russian Pres. M....the meeting gets cancelled.

And Russia during these post election civil distrubances has been pretty quiet about which Iranian leader they think should be the next President. Seems that Pres. A might be finding a cold shoulder from Russia.......
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Jun 20, 2009 10:04 PM CST No hope for Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
talon1313: Well this is the same exact situation that happened here in American when george bush took over this country illegally...


If I remember correctly....the DEMs had a choice to recount every Florida county OR any group of Florida counties in the last election. That the DEMs choose to recount 3 Florida counties.
There was not enough of DEM votes difference in those three counties to cover the difference....


So how did GWB steal the election again?
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Jun 20, 2009 10:06 PM CST No hope for Iran
reconmarine
reconmarinereconmarineLittleton, New Hampshire USA3 Threads 3 Polls 61 Posts
bollywood: Again the "oppression" is just a perception .I lived there and was never oppressed in any way . Iranian women are doing a fine job in their countries . they are there in every spheres of social life . They are outgoing and achieving . In my organization there are a lot of woman working .They are happy as working woman, happy as wifes and mothers .They too have the fredom to do what is right .I dont see a problem there what you see from a distant place . These news and information you get in your place are nothing but distorted and propaganda based


Oppression in Iran is not a perception, Just tune in any television channel anywhere in the world right now and you can watch it live and unfortunately in color. Unfortunately, for the current regime there in Iran, they HAVE been exposed. The secret is out. No sense in denying it any longer.
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Jun 20, 2009 10:46 PM CST No hope for Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
reconmarine: A very impressive regime indeed! Let's be honest. This regime needs to fall. Maybe not today or tomorrow. BUT they will fall.


I did not even talk about the Saberi case, the 18 western journalist locked up, the refusal to extradite bin Laden's son,
the harassing fast boats in the strait of Hormuz, the pre 9/11 meeting between Iranian Secret Service (ISS) and AlQeada, how
Iran supports Pan Islam, how edits from Qom are made thru out Islam, how most Persian Gulf countries are in fear of the Iranian nuclear program, the Iranian and Russian concealing the geo physical studies of the location of the nuclear reactors and processing facilities in Iran, the treatment of the British Marines that strayed into Iranian waters, how the Iranian went outside of Iranian water the second time to detain the British Marines.... hey one needs ammo for another day.....just call me a skeptic when people say Pres. A is a nice guy that can be trusted.
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Jun 20, 2009 10:51 PM CST No hope for Iran
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
And this that I picked up today......

Seems Iranian gov't helos are poring some kind of heated chemical on the protesters in the streets of Tehran. A little heated riot control agent from above.

Yep, Pres. A ..the kind of man you can trust with a nuc.. laugh
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Jun 21, 2009 2:51 AM CST No hope for Iran
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
enola1: I should be careful or else u bomb me right
Grow up moron.
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Jun 21, 2009 2:54 AM CST No hope for Iran
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
enola1: I am glad u r come forward from u r "luv thyself veil"

Obama had the merit ( u cannt deny tht, well u may be deny tht, bcoz hate makes u blind) beside he had a hard working mother, and granny, he was not like Bush read at Ive league by his father's power(compare both of their educational background u would get the answer) and avoid to join army by tht same privilege.

Can I claim tht u only find this line unacceptable? Others u cannt deny ? do u ?
tinfoil hat
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Jun 21, 2009 8:47 AM CST No hope for Iran
reconmarine
reconmarinereconmarineLittleton, New Hampshire USA3 Threads 3 Polls 61 Posts
Of course, once again the Iranian regime is blaming the U.S. and Great Britain of interfering. Could it be fact that their oppressed citizens are reaching out to the world asking for help? Take a good look at the signs they carry. If they were wanting to make a statement to their government, they would be written in Farsi. But they've made them in English as this is their only way of communicating and reaching out to the world. Very intelligent young people and if my supporting their push for democracy is interfering then I guess I am.
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Jun 21, 2009 9:42 AM CST No hope for Iran
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
BebeII: Your arguments are biased and hate filled. Perhaps you watch too much al-jazeera.


You have already made up your mind about me .anything against your countires views are hatefull and biased . I watch almost all channels and use my on intellect to understand things.
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Jun 21, 2009 10:00 AM CST No hope for Iran
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
reconmarine: Of course, once again the Iranian regime is blaming the U.S. and Great Britain of interfering. Could it be fact that their oppressed citizens are reaching out to the world asking for help? Take a good look at the signs they carry. If they were wanting to make a statement to their government, they would be written in Farsi. But they've made them in English as this is their only way of communicating and reaching out to the world. Very intelligent young people and if my supporting their push for democracy is interfering then I guess I am.


Organising a protest march with english sign is no excuse to intervene a country affair. Iran is one of the few countries where democracy still practiced .Its common in any democrazy that there can be rallies and protests . The very fact that they could come out and protest in the street shows that they still have the right to freedom . Let the IRan be Iran dont install your ideas there .
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