No hope for Iran (267)
ooby_dooby: Funniest thing I've read lately! You must have a short memory. I guess you forgot 1973-4. What's in YOUR driveway huh? How many barrels of that "damn oil" do you blow out the tailpipes of your fleet? Ever hear the saying "Be careful what you wish for"?
Have you ever thought about what would happen if we nuked the middle east? For starters all that damn oil would be located in a radio active wasteland and it would no longer be available for use by anybody. Sorta like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Russian oil would suddenly be worth way more and with such clout they could hold the west hostage by our love of consumption. Do you remember what they did to Europe when they shut the gas off? China already has us by the short hairs, or aren't you aware that China is the biggest holder of American treasury notes? China has the ability to break the United States overnight if they were to dump all that paper on the worlds stock exchanges.
India has effectively taken over the high tech sector of our economy or aren't you aware that at least 75% of the engineers in Silicon Valley are from India? High tech co's like Microsoft, Apple, Cisco Systems etc have been importing software engineers from India for years because our school system sucks at teaching computer science, or any science for that matter.
Have you ever thought about what would happen if we nuked the middle east? For starters all that damn oil would be located in a radio active wasteland and it would no longer be available for use by anybody. Sorta like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Russian oil would suddenly be worth way more and with such clout they could hold the west hostage by our love of consumption. Do you remember what they did to Europe when they shut the gas off? China already has us by the short hairs, or aren't you aware that China is the biggest holder of American treasury notes? China has the ability to break the United States overnight if they were to dump all that paper on the worlds stock exchanges.
India has effectively taken over the high tech sector of our economy or aren't you aware that at least 75% of the engineers in Silicon Valley are from India? High tech co's like Microsoft, Apple, Cisco Systems etc have been importing software engineers from India for years because our school system sucks at teaching computer science, or any science for that matter.
Yeah, BRIC is coming, and it'll own the world)
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jetdevil2001: Yeah, BRIC is coming, and it'll own the world)
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jlb684: One must keep in mind, however, that such pro-democracy or soft democracy programs, although they sound positive on the surface, can at times do more harm than good. These types of programs are generally promoting radio broadcasts through VOA or other outlets, cultural exchanges, funding for NGOs, etc. Sounds ok, right? Of course it does, until you break it down a bit. Cultural and educational exchange programs offered to Iranian students are not easily achieved, as we have no embassy there and cannot issue visas to the students. Consequently, they must go to Dubai or some other city outside of Iran to sort out the process. Radio broadcasts aren't a bad idea, either, but if the audience is minimal in numbers (which reports say is the case in Iran), is it really worth the cost? As for funding for various NGOs, there have been many reports that indicate that the recipients of such funding have been discredited and "labeled as traitors who receive money from the enemy to undermine Iran's national interest". From a report on the program, written in 2006: "The bigger worry, Milani says, is turning everyday Iranians against the United States. “The Iranian street is predominantly pro-American while the Iranian government is anti-American,” he says. “That’s the opposite in the Arab world.”
I would be interested in hearing from Persiano, particularly as our viewpoints as outsiders cannot be as reality-based as his. My viewpoint may not change after I hear his thoughts, but I'd certainly welcome hearing them and having new perspective.
I quoted from an interesting article and want to provide my source:
Just food for thought.
I would be interested in hearing from Persiano, particularly as our viewpoints as outsiders cannot be as reality-based as his. My viewpoint may not change after I hear his thoughts, but I'd certainly welcome hearing them and having new perspective.
I quoted from an interesting article and want to provide my source:
Just food for thought.
Huh, again those NGO's, d'you realy know what is their main function and are they realy non-governmental. So, the term Non-Governmental Organisations is actually a misnomer. The NGOs are financed and directed by the various imperialist agencies, the imperialist governments and the comprador regimes. They act as the liaison between the people and the governments. They are the vehicles through which the exploiters seek to influence the opinions of 'civil society'. But sooner or later they are kicked out of any country they are in as it was with your USAID or Soros fund in CIS for their provocative acts directed towards distabilization the situaion within the country as it was in Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgizia
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jetdevil2001: Huh, again those NGO's, d'you realy know what is their main function and are they realy non-governmental. So, the term Non-Governmental Organisations is actually a misnomer. The NGOs are financed and directed by the various imperialist agencies, the imperialist governments and the comprador regimes. They act as the liaison between the people and the governments. They are the vehicles through which the exploiters seek to influence the opinions of 'civil society'. But sooner or later they are kicked out of any country they are in as it was with your USAID or Soros fund in CIS for their provocative acts directed towards distabilization the situaion within the country as it was in Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgizia
USAID IS a Government Agency!Spreading some more Disinformation,hmmm!
Well,like they say,Leperd don't change spot!
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Conrad73: USAID IS a Government Agency!
Spreading some more Disinformation,hmmm!
Well,like they say,Leperd don't change spot!
Spreading some more Disinformation,hmmm!
Well,like they say,Leperd don't change spot!
Yeap, state agency of provocation
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jetdevil2001: Yeap, state agency of provocation
Da Boris,FSB is everywhere! But you post really had nothing to do with Iran!You just went and Spat on the west again,as you wont to do!
Nothing new from the East!
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morgan5: Your right, sorry ooby shan't post again out of respect i have for you
WHA?!! This guy is the most hateful person on the board....he is more of an instigator in the fighting than a participant... respect that? I don't respect him and I am losing respect for you------ This thread is Locked ------
Sorry..I had the wrong guy
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By the way where were those radical Muslim before 1990 ?
Mr. Obama did a great job at cairo by admitting some past mistakes , by respecting religious point of views .He mentioned the verse of Holy Quran "If anybody kills a innocent it is as if he kills whole man kind and if anybody saves one it is as if he saves whole mankind" by only mentioning this verse he made those extremist weak who uses USA's unjust behavior to kill innocent ppl, he at least made it little bit difficult for them to hire men to do bomb blast. If bombing was the solution why more and more USA General became fed up with Bush policy? u want to bomb who want to led a different life?
Bush had no idea and respect abt other ppls faith. We like it or not USA rules the world, its president Considered as world’s leader, when u hav such privilege u hav to act responsibly, he(US president) not a ordinary man but he(Bush) was ordinary, especially intellectually , It is Obama who realized USA is not in a strong position economically to act irresponsibly , beside his diverse background humble him made him more human, help him understand the world around him better not like arrogant bush who born with silver spoon and won by rigging.
Yes Obama may be cannt change much but his words matter, those who say he is all abt speech should remember tht ( as a example some of my words did create anger , disappoints in many of u
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Mr. Obama did a great job at cairo by admitting some past mistakes , by respecting religious point of views .He mentioned the verse of Holy Quran "If anybody kills a innocent it is as if he kills whole man kind and if anybody saves one it is as if he saves whole mankind" by only mentioning this verse he made those extremist weak who uses USA's unjust behavior to kill innocent ppl, he at least made it little bit difficult for them to hire men to do bomb blast. If bombing was the solution why more and more USA General became fed up with Bush policy? u want to bomb who want to led a different life?
Bush had no idea and respect abt other ppls faith. We like it or not USA rules the world, its president Considered as world’s leader, when u hav such privilege u hav to act responsibly, he(US president) not a ordinary man but he(Bush) was ordinary, especially intellectually , It is Obama who realized USA is not in a strong position economically to act irresponsibly , beside his diverse background humble him made him more human, help him understand the world around him better not like arrogant bush who born with silver spoon and won by rigging.
Yes Obama may be cannt change much but his words matter, those who say he is all abt speech should remember tht ( as a example some of my words did create anger , disappoints in many of u
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Alfalfa: I agree 100% After listing to hate like this for so many years..now you turn on the tv and they are expecting something from us??!! They want support?!! Let the "less perverted" Iran rot in their own hateful mess
Who u think u r?, who r u to help us? R u God ? My simple truthful comments made u angry( did u read all of my post, it is me who spoke more logical things ,yes it is quite possible tht many don’t like it, but u r a man from freedom of speech
, u shouldn’t be angry so quickly, oh !I forgot u can bomb who protest u r violent behavior ) wht abt u? and others? tht support a biggest hater ( a killer)------ This thread is Locked ------
Enola,
I have to admit that I find your views very puzzling. I was a Marine Security Guard at the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi, U.A.E. for 2 years and found the the people very westernized and friendly even moreso in Dubai which was actually the only place in the UAE that wasn't dry. There is no doubt that the U.S. has made many mistakes over the years but I really have to wonder where you get your intel. Your words do not anger me. But your ignorance does.
I have to admit that I find your views very puzzling. I was a Marine Security Guard at the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi, U.A.E. for 2 years and found the the people very westernized and friendly even moreso in Dubai which was actually the only place in the UAE that wasn't dry. There is no doubt that the U.S. has made many mistakes over the years but I really have to wonder where you get your intel. Your words do not anger me. But your ignorance does.
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Alfalfa: Sorry..I had the wrong guy
bcoz u urself lost control over u by u r hate, I didnt, bcoz wht I say was not a hate speechI am the most hateful person?!! Did u ever read other articles against Obama? or may be u r one of them? u lost respect for ooby dooby for wht? being reasonable?
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reconmarine: Enola,
I have to admit that I find your views very puzzling. I was a Marine Security Guard at the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi, U.A.E. for 2 years and found the the people very westernized and friendly even moreso in Dubai which was actually the only place in the UAE that wasn't dry. There is no doubt that the U.S. has made many mistakes over the years but I really have to wonder where you get your intel. Your words do not anger me. But your ignorance does.
I have to admit that I find your views very puzzling. I was a Marine Security Guard at the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi, U.A.E. for 2 years and found the the people very westernized and friendly even moreso in Dubai which was actually the only place in the UAE that wasn't dry. There is no doubt that the U.S. has made many mistakes over the years but I really have to wonder where you get your intel. Your words do not anger me. But your ignorance does.
Can u be Specific wht ignorance of mine puzzle u or made u angry?
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enola1: By the way where were those radical Muslim before 1990 ?
Mr. Obama did a great job at cairo by admitting some past mistakes , by respecting religious point of views .He mentioned the verse of Holy Quran "If anybody kills a innocent it is as if he kills whole man kind and if anybody saves one it is as if he saves whole mankind" by only mentioning this verse he made those extremist weak who uses USA's unjust behavior to kill innocent ppl, he at least made it little bit difficult for them to hire men to do bomb blast. If bombing was the solution why more and more USA General became fed up with Bush policy? u want to bomb who want to led a different life?
Bush had no idea and respect abt other ppls faith. We like it or not USA rules the world, its president Considered as world’s leader, when u hav such privilege u hav to act responsibly, he(US president) not a ordinary man but he(Bush) was ordinary, especially intellectually , It is Obama who realized USA is not in a strong position economically to act irresponsibly , beside his diverse background humble him made him more human, help him understand the world around him better not like arrogant bush who born with silver spoon and won by rigging.
Yes Obama may be cannt change much but his words matter, those who say he is all abt speech should remember tht ( as a example some of my words did create anger , disappoints in many of u )
Mr. Obama did a great job at cairo by admitting some past mistakes , by respecting religious point of views .He mentioned the verse of Holy Quran "If anybody kills a innocent it is as if he kills whole man kind and if anybody saves one it is as if he saves whole mankind" by only mentioning this verse he made those extremist weak who uses USA's unjust behavior to kill innocent ppl, he at least made it little bit difficult for them to hire men to do bomb blast. If bombing was the solution why more and more USA General became fed up with Bush policy? u want to bomb who want to led a different life?
Bush had no idea and respect abt other ppls faith. We like it or not USA rules the world, its president Considered as world’s leader, when u hav such privilege u hav to act responsibly, he(US president) not a ordinary man but he(Bush) was ordinary, especially intellectually , It is Obama who realized USA is not in a strong position economically to act irresponsibly , beside his diverse background humble him made him more human, help him understand the world around him better not like arrogant bush who born with silver spoon and won by rigging.
Yes Obama may be cannt change much but his words matter, those who say he is all abt speech should remember tht ( as a example some of my words did create anger , disappoints in many of u )
Obama didn't grow up in privilige? I wonder how he managed to go to Harvard at 30,000 a year if he wasn't?------ This thread is Locked ------
BebeII: So, Bush rigged both elections! Keep dreaming, and enjoying your stockholm syndrome.
No, He just somehow convinced the Bible Thumpers to get the edge on the election ........
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BebeII: Obama didn't grow up in privilige? I wonder how he managed to go to Harvard at 30,000 a year if he wasn't?
I am glad u r come forward from u r "luv thyself veil"
Obama had the merit ( u cannt deny tht, well u may be deny tht
, bcoz hate makes u blind) beside he had a hard working mother, and granny, he was not like Bush read at Ive league by his father's power(compare both of their educational background u would get the answer) and avoid to join army by tht same privilege. Can I claim tht u only find this line unacceptable? Others u cannt deny ? do u ?
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Ladies and gentlemen this is my last post for this thread , I did say what I have to say ,if u hate me u can do this, I don’t want to be loved but I will always tell what I believe is truth , see you at any other post ,till then keep cursing me
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By the way where were those radical Muslim before 1990 ?
Maybe in Tehran taking over the US Embassy
Maybe on the Achille Laruiel killing one Francis Killenghoffer
Maybe in Beriut, bombing the US Marine Barracks
Maybe in Beriut, bombing the US Embassy
Maybe in Lybia, plotting the PAM AM bombing
Maybe in Algeria, fighting against the French
Maybe in hijacking a number of commercial aircraft and flying them to many foreign countries....
Maybe in south Saudi learning from Whabbist clerics to be Jahidist (bin Laden)
Maybe at the assignation of Awar Sadat in Egypt
Maybe in Lebanon kidnapping Americans
Maybe in Afghanistan/Pakistan in the 1880s, when the Sepoy rebellions occurred against the British.
It goes back a long, long time in history....Enolal
And we know it now. And we are aware of it.
Maybe in Tehran taking over the US Embassy
Maybe on the Achille Laruiel killing one Francis Killenghoffer
Maybe in Beriut, bombing the US Marine Barracks
Maybe in Beriut, bombing the US Embassy
Maybe in Lybia, plotting the PAM AM bombing
Maybe in Algeria, fighting against the French
Maybe in hijacking a number of commercial aircraft and flying them to many foreign countries....
Maybe in south Saudi learning from Whabbist clerics to be Jahidist (bin Laden)
Maybe at the assignation of Awar Sadat in Egypt
Maybe in Lebanon kidnapping Americans
Maybe in Afghanistan/Pakistan in the 1880s, when the Sepoy rebellions occurred against the British.
It goes back a long, long time in history....Enolal
And we know it now. And we are aware of it.
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