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Sep 18, 2009 8:15 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”


"Denial is not a river in Egypt."

I think I know now why Iran's corrupt government is Hell bent on developing a nuclear weapon.

“The very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the dignity of humanity,” said Ahmadinejad.


"The life of this regime has come to an end,” Ahmadinejad said, adding: “We will certainly be witness to the destruction of this regime.”

"the Holocaust was a “myth” and calling for Israel to be “wiped off the map”."

A lesson Iran has yet to learn can be summed up in 1 simple sentence. "Never bring a knife to a gunfight."
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Sep 18, 2009 8:24 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
lights
lightslightsDenver, Colorado USA6 Threads 504 Posts
That Ahmadinejad is one dangerous man.

He LIES.

And the entire regime is dangerous.

I think it is a good thing that the US is now allied with Iraq, and we can keep a few armored divisions right across the border from these guys to give them something to ponder.

They need to be kept in check.

And if the US won't do it, who will???
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Sep 18, 2009 11:39 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
ooby_dooby: http://televisionwashington.com/floater_article1.aspx?lang=en&t=1&id=14116

"Denial is not a river in Egypt."

I think I know now why Iran's corrupt government is Hell bent on developing a nuclear weapon.

“The very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the dignity of humanity,” said Ahmadinejad."The life of this regime has come to an end,” Ahmadinejad said, adding: “We will certainly be witness to the destruction of this regime.”

"the Holocaust was a “myth” and calling for Israel to be “wiped off the map”."

A lesson Iran has yet to learn can be summed up in 1 simple sentence. "Never bring a knife to a gunfight."

A knife? you must be thinking that the Asyrian empire is still at office over there.
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Sep 18, 2009 11:52 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
Ahmadinejad spouts the same populist BS that Bush did. Can't take it serious, but on the world stage, it certainly gives Israel a lot of political ammo and that's not exactly good either.
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Sep 18, 2009 12:02 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Antjo39: A knife? you must be thinking that the Asyrian empire is still at office over there.
I think you missed the point of that old saying in this context.

It means Iran would be totally outgunned if they ever tried to wipe Israel out with their nuclear arsenal which if they ever develope it will be no match for what Israel can bring to the party right now. Israel has enough of a nuclear arsenal to turn Iran into a radioactive wasteland.
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Sep 18, 2009 12:04 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
BTW, how come nobody complimented me on my new hat?
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Sep 18, 2009 12:35 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Sojourner
SojournerSojournerAndorra la Vella, Andorra31 Threads 2 Polls 472 Posts
ooby_dooby: http://televisionwashington.com/floater_article1.aspx?lang=en&t=1&id=14116

“The very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the dignity of humanity,” said Ahmadinejad."The life of this regime has come to an end,” Ahmadinejad said, adding: “We will certainly be witness to the destruction of this regime.”

"the Holocaust was a “myth” and calling for Israel to be “wiped off the map”."
He is a really scary guy.
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Sep 18, 2009 2:36 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
AnAngelAlways
AnAngelAlwaysAnAngelAlwaysJoshua, Texas USA2 Threads 546 Posts
Tova Friedman speaks of her Holocaust experience:

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Sep 18, 2009 2:37 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
ooby_dooby: BTW, how come nobody complimented me on my new hat?



tip hat Nice new hat ooby!





daydream What BIG eyes you have my dear!
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Sep 18, 2009 2:40 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
ooby_dooby: http://televisionwashington.com/floater_article1.aspx?lang=en&t=1&id=14116

"Denial is not a river in Egypt."

I think I know now why Iran's corrupt government is Hell bent on developing a nuclear weapon.

“The very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the dignity of humanity,” said Ahmadinejad."The life of this regime has come to an end,” Ahmadinejad said, adding: “We will certainly be witness to the destruction of this regime.”

"the Holocaust was a “myth” and calling for Israel to be “wiped off the map”."

A lesson Iran has yet to learn can be summed up in 1 simple sentence. "Never bring a knife to a gunfight."


YUP, his rhetoric is nearly as scarey as George W's.
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Sep 18, 2009 2:41 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
BrunoMcMahon
BrunoMcMahonBrunoMcMahonHardwick, Vermont USA20 Threads 3 Polls 733 Posts
He's been saying the same things for years.
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Sep 18, 2009 8:49 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Tbilisigal
TbilisigalTbilisigalTbilisi, Georgia4 Threads 83 Posts
ooby_dooby: http://televisionwashington.com/floater_article1.aspx?lang=en&t=1&id=14116

"Denial is not a river in Egypt."

I think I know now why Iran's corrupt government is Hell bent on developing a nuclear weapon.

“The very existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the dignity of humanity,” said Ahmadinejad."The life of this regime has come to an end,” Ahmadinejad said, adding: “We will certainly be witness to the destruction of this regime.”

"the Holocaust was a “myth” and calling for Israel to be “wiped off the map”."

A lesson Iran has yet to learn can be summed up in 1 simple sentence. "Never bring a knife to a gunfight."


Too much propaganda about Iran . Sad . where in the world we got an Idea about the "currupt" Iranina goverment ? . Why we are not seeing the "currupt" Afgan govermetn who rigged the poll ? Why we are not seeing a more corrupt nuclear Pakistani govemrnet who hate Israel more that Arabs do ? Why we choose to Ignore the biggest lie "WMD" that killed millions in Iraq ? .Iran has all the right to develop a nuclear weapon to use as a detterent and nobody can stop that espescially most of its regional players have got it .Israel,Pakistan,China ,russia and India, West cannot expect Iran to fight with Knife whe they got all the guns .
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Sep 18, 2009 9:05 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
In international diplomacy, the job of translation is always the job of the speaker's own team of translators,
never the translators of other nations.

Those nations might have their own translators, but only the speaker's own translators can be trusted to faithfully interpret what the speaker says.

So when Ahmadinejad speaks, the only valid translation to English is that effected by his own translators. But Ooby_Dooby has quoted translations that came from Haeretz, an Israeli news agency with ties to the Israeli government.

Could we trust Iran to translate speeches by the Israeli Prime Minister into English?
No, of course not.

And by the same token we can't trust Israel's translation of the Iranian president's speeches.

For example:
We have often heard that Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be wiped of the face of the map.

But he never said anything like that.

What he said, in a speech to Iranian youth was a direct quote from the late Ayatollah Khoumeini:

" ???? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ??? "

"The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"

So there was absolutely no threat of violence or war. Just a citation from Khoumeini wishing for the eventual end of the Zionist occupational régime.

I echo that wish.

It's nothing but hypocrisy to accuse Iran of agressive intent on the basis of such seriously twisted translations.

What country on earth has invaded or orchestrated coups in more foreign nations than any other nation in history?

Not Iran.

What nations occupy the territory of other nations at this moment?

Not Iran.

What countries have huge stocpiles of nuclear weapoons?

Not Iran.

What countries are itching for war?

Not Iran.
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Sep 18, 2009 9:19 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Tbilisigal: Too much propaganda about Iran . Sad . where in the world we got an Idea about the "currupt" Iranina goverment ? . Why we are not seeing the "currupt" Afgan govermetn who rigged the poll ? Why we are not seeing a more corrupt nuclear Pakistani govemrnet who hate Israel more that Arabs do ? Why we choose to Ignore the biggest lie "WMD" that killed millions in Iraq ? .Iran has all the right to develop a nuclear weapon to use as a detterent and nobody can stop that espescially most of its regional players have got it .Israel,Pakistan,China ,russia and India, West cannot expect Iran to fight with Knife whe they got all the guns .
The difference between Iran and Pakistan, Russia, China, and India is they don't want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. In my opinion Iran doesn't want to develope a nuclear weapon as a deterant but as a first strike weapon, against Israel.
Afghanistan is corrupt and so is Pakistan. That the government of Iran is corrupt was made so obvious in the last election by the fact that it was not possibly to count millions of paper ballots from all over the country and have a result in such a short amount of time it was IMPOSSIBLE!!!! No question about it!
I'm curious about something, I thought Georgia was an ally of the United States, am I wrong about this?
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Sep 18, 2009 9:43 PM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
ooby_dooby: The difference between Iran and Pakistan, Russia, China, and India is they don't want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.


I already showed in a post above that Ahmadinejad never made that statement or anything like it.
It was a false translation by Haeretz that put those words in his mouth.

The Bush League and Israel have mounted a big campaign to twist Ahmadinejad's words and pretend that he threatened war against Israel when he never did.

They can't tell the truth because it would be too lame.

What if Bush had told the truth:

"The Iranian president has quoted Ayatollah Khomeini, who died seventeen years ago, as saying 'the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the page of time?'"
Pretty lame, huh?

Or if Bush had said the truth about Iran's nuclear program,

"Given ten years time, Iran might be able to build a single nuclear weapon to use against Israel, which itself has had a couple hundred nukes for quite awhile?"
Pretty lame, too.

So the Bush leaguers had to jazz up the story some.

They said to themselves:
"Here's how we'll spin it,
We'll say Ahmadinejad has stated publicly that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. And since Iran is trying to enrich uranium for its nuclear power plants, we'll say that Iran plans to nuke Israel.
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Sep 19, 2009 5:48 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
RayfromUSA: I already showed in a post above that Ahmadinejad never made that statement or anything like it.
It was a false translation by Haeretz that put those words in his mouth.

The Bush League and Israel have mounted a big campaign to twist Ahmadinejad's words and pretend that he threatened war against Israel when he never did.

They can't tell the truth because it would be too lame.

What if Bush had told the truth:

"The Iranian president has quoted Ayatollah Khomeini, who died seventeen years ago, as saying 'the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the page of time?'"
Pretty lame, huh?

Or if Bush had said the truth about Iran's nuclear program,

"Given ten years time, Iran might be able to build a single nuclear weapon to use against Israel, which itself has had a couple hundred nukes for quite awhile?"
Pretty lame, too.

So the Bush leaguers had to jazz up the story some.

They said to themselves:
"Here's how we'll spin it,
We'll say Ahmadinejad has stated publicly that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. And since Iran is trying to enrich uranium for its nuclear power plants, we'll say that Iran plans to nuke Israel.


Man get Real!!!!!! Quit trying to blame Bush for everything. He said it face it. I have friends that lived in Iraq they will tell you exactly what he said and why he said it. He believes in OOOh well it isn't even worth trying to explain, some people will only believe what fits there preconcieved belief and no matter what you say they won't hear it unless it fits what they want to believe . Iran wants Isreal wiped off the face of the earth and never to be allowed to exist again . As far as being able to produce Nuclear Weapons there are different reports but most point to the fact they could have them within a year. several say even sooner. The reason the world is so worried about Iran haveing them is they will use them . Isreal has been a nuclear country since the 1970's and has never used them .
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Sep 19, 2009 6:55 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Annoying Guy!
I wish he'd have a serious accident,like falling down through his Own Nose!
It sure is Big enough for it!laugh




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Sep 19, 2009 6:57 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
Conrad73: Annoying Guy!
I wish he'd have a serious accident,like falling down through his Own Nose!
It sure is Big enough for it!

or someone drop a b---et on his head
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Sep 19, 2009 6:59 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
jessejess47: or someone drop a b---et on his head
Hope someone is going after the Guy with a Mallet!
Usually used on Rats!laugh
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Sep 19, 2009 7:28 AM CST Ahmadinejad says Holocaust was a “lie”
Mulberry4000
Mulberry4000Mulberry4000Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK9 Threads 4 Polls 138 Posts
RayfromUSA: In international diplomacy, the job of translation is always the job of the speaker's own team of translators,
never the translators of other nations.

Those nations might have their own translators, but only the speaker's own translators can be trusted to faithfully interpret what the speaker says.

So when Ahmadinejad speaks, the only valid translation to English is that effected by his own translators. But Ooby_Dooby has quoted translations that came from Haeretz, an Israeli news agency with ties to the Israeli government.

Could we trust Iran to translate speeches by the Israeli Prime Minister into English?
No, of course not.

And by the same token we can't trust Israel's translation of the Iranian president's speeches.

For example:
We have often heard that Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be wiped of the face of the map.

But he never said anything like that.

What he said, in a speech to Iranian youth was a direct quote from the late Ayatollah Khoumeini:

" ???? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ??? "

"The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"

So there was absolutely no threat of violence or war. Just a citation from Khoumeini wishing for the eventual end of the Zionist occupational régime.

I echo that wish.

It's nothing but hypocrisy to accuse Iran of agressive intent on the basis of such seriously twisted translations.

What country on earth has invaded or orchestrated coups in more foreign nations than any other nation in history?

Not Iran.

What nations occupy the territory of other nations at this moment?

Not Iran.

What countries have huge stocpiles of nuclear weapoons?

Not Iran.

What countries are itching for war?

Not Iran.


i could not agree with you more


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