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Jul 23, 2010 11:57 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Pixels1: They? Sorry I wish I had checked this earlier. 'They' are not the people responsible that day. Of course the events were one of the saddest days in history and London was also terrorised you may recall but we are talking about the building of a Mosque - something that will stand for something positive hopefully and maybe something good will come out of it.
The "they" I was refering to are the innocent people who would die in such an attack.
You might find this of interest. Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman was the Imam at a mosque in Jersey City where the 1993 bombing of the WTC and other terrorist bombings were planned.



Further proof that Mosques are used for nefarious deeds.



""They were talking all the time about targeting American symbols," says the
FBI undercover informant, "the Empire State Building, the Statue of
Liberty. A few of the guys came to the mosque to pray and go home. But
others gathered to conspire in small groups, talking in deep, low voices.
They see the U.S. as an imperialist power, the Big Satan, the root of all
the evil in the world."

The FBI operative, Mamdouh Zaki Zakhary, monitored the radical activities
at the El Salaam Mosque in Jersey City, which was the headquarters of the
terrorist cell that allegedly planned and carried our the of the World
Trade Center on February 26.
Zakhary, a heavily bearded Coptic Christian
from Egypt who owned an import-export firm in Jersey City, spent a year and
a half spying on the local Arab American community and the mosque,
beginning January 10, 1990. During this time, he watched the first two men
arrested in connection with the bombing. Mohammed Salameh and Ibraham
Elgabrowny, as well as the spiritual leader who may have inspired them, the
fiery blind fundamentalist cleric Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, who is infamous
throughout the Arab world for his alleged role in the assassination of
Egyptian president Anwar el-Sadat.
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Sep 26, 2010 8:58 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
JRobert369
JRobert369JRobert369Southampton, New Jersey USA34 Posts
I was thinking about this mosque. I don't know if everyone knows but this will not be a place of worship but a memorial for the 19 muslims that died while attacking America and a monument to show that America fell to the muslims. Most people who think that it is a good ideal never read the quran but if they did, they would find that one of their verses say that they should kill Jews and Christians. The muslims are not here for peace but to take over the world with their crazy religion.

What I learned while I was in the military was that the best way to beat an enemy is to use his fears against him. If the people in New York or else where don't want that mosque to go up, then there is a way to stop it without causing along of problems with protests. Muslims are not allowed to come in contact with a pig or they will go to the hellfire, so they believe. So the way to fix it where they don't want to build there is to dump anything from the pig onto the ground. Pork chops, pig feet and so forth. Bury it in the ground and put it all over the area. You will then make the ground worthless to the muslims and they will have to build their monument elsewhere.

I know I will get a lot of flack for this but I don't care. Look into the quran and search for yourselves. I had to read through it for information from work and the things that I found inside were kind of crazy. They are not here to bring peace but to take over.
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Sep 26, 2010 9:03 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
JRobert369: I had to read through it for information from work ......



What kinda work do you do that required such?
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Sep 26, 2010 9:05 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
JRobert369: I was thinking about this mosque. I don't know if everyone knows but this will not be a place of worship but a memorial for the 19 muslims that died while attacking America and a monument to show that America fell to the muslims. Most people who think that it is a good ideal never read the quran but if they did, they would find that one of their verses say that they should kill Jews and Christians. The muslims are not here for peace but to take over the world with their crazy religion.

What I learned while I was in the military was that the best way to beat an enemy is to use his fears against him. If the people in New York or else where don't want that mosque to go up, then there is a way to stop it without causing along of problems with protests. Muslims are not allowed to come in contact with a pig or they will go to the hellfire, so they believe. So the way to fix it where they don't want to build there is to dump anything from the pig onto the ground. Pork chops, pig feet and so forth. Bury it in the ground and put it all over the area. You will then make the ground worthless to the muslims and they will have to build their monument elsewhere.

I know I will get a lot of flack for this but I don't care. Look into the quran and search for yourselves. I had to read through it for information from work and the things that I found inside were kind of crazy. They are not here to bring peace but to take over.


Would that be considered a hate crime? confused
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Sep 27, 2010 9:10 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
JRobert369
JRobert369JRobert369Southampton, New Jersey USA34 Posts
Dumping pork on the ground is not a hate crime, and since there is nothing there right now makes it just an open area of ground. But I guess killing almost 3000 Americans is not a hate crime either.

And the job that made me read the quran is prison. Islam is one of the biggest gangs in the prison system today. It's made up of guys who can't make it on their own or former gang members who want to belong to something bigger.
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Sep 27, 2010 9:16 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
I appreciate Roma´s spontaneous resistance against the "New World Order". They have kept the common sense. They know what matters.
JRobert369: Dumping pork on the ground is not a hate crime, and since there is nothing there right now makes it just an open area of ground. But I guess killing almost 3000 Americans is not a hate crime either.

And the job that made me read the quran is prison. Islam is one of the biggest gangs in the prison system today. It's made up of guys who can't make it on their own or former gang members who want to belong to something bigger.


my point here is.... you don`t even wanna see who`s working on the destruction of your country
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Sep 27, 2010 9:19 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
Wow_Factor: Muslims build mosques in locations of their 'conquest.' So for them to consider the New York site as their conquest is, in my mind, a hate crime of the highest order.


Explain conquest in relation to Muslims building mosques, and if you do, bear in mind there are many mosques here in the UK.
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Sep 27, 2010 9:34 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
JRobert369: Dumping pork on the ground is not a hate crime, and since there is nothing there right now makes it just an open area of ground. But I guess killing almost 3000 Americans is not a hate crime either.

And the job that made me read the quran is prison. Islam is one of the biggest gangs in the prison system today. It's made up of guys who can't make it on their own or former gang members who want to belong to something bigger.


Sounds like the Democrat party to me. laugh
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Sep 27, 2010 9:43 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Veritaas: Explain conquest in relation to Muslims building mosques, and if you do, bear in mind there are many mosques here in the UK.


Yes I know there are many mosques in the UK. Also in New York City

The main one is the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, Judaism being a much earlier religion than Islam.



and some more



Taken from commentary on youtube:
On August 16, 2010 radio program, Host and American Poltical Commentator Michael Savage talks about Mosques built on other religious sites as a sign of victory in Jihad against Non-Muslims.
Mr Savage names the following mosques built over other religious sites:
1, al aqsa mosque in Israel over the Temple Mount.
2. the great mosque of Cordova conquest of the visigothic kingdom.
3. 1528 babri (after babar) majid mosque destroying the hindu temple....To name 3 and there are several others.
Ground Zero islamic victory mosque Jews Hindus Christians against jihadi islam terrorism Ayodhya Temple Mount Ram Mandir Church Cathedral Spain Turkey Al-Aqsa 9/11 7/11 26/11 Mumbai WTC Michael Savage Dharma Hinduism Judaism Buddhism Buddha Taliban destroy bamiyan quran kaffir hijab france uk usa India

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Sep 27, 2010 9:46 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca48ocpFBiE&feature=relatedYoutube commentary:
Video made by a brave and righteous muslim . Copied with permission.
Thank you Mahmoudabuz.

The quran states very clearly :
The land was promised to ISRAEL .

5:21
???? ?????? ????? ??????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ???????? ?????

"Moses (Musa) :O my people, enter the holy land that God Has written for you, and do not turn your backs, or you will become losers."

The Quran also say that one day the Jews will return home to their land :

17:104
????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??????? ???? ??? ?????
And We said after him to the Children of Israel: "Dwell in the land, then, when the time of the second promise comes, We will bring you all together as a mixed crowd."

The palestinians removed the star from the Jordanian Flag and made their Flag (PLO)

The word "palestine" is not mentioned in the Quran .
"Free palestine" from the Arab occupation
Jerusalem Holy for them ?
It is so "Holy" for them that Jerusalem (Al Quds) is not mentioned in the Quran even once .

On the Temple mount they have picnics and they play soccer .
Not only that , when they pray there , they turn their behinds towards Dome of the rock Mosque and the temple mount .

The palestinians who claim to be natives , are actually migrant workers who came to the land from neighboring Arab countries ( mainly from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq) to work for the British mandate and the Jews who developed the land .
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Sep 27, 2010 9:49 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
The row of question marks is the arabic text which does is not supported by this website
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Sep 27, 2010 9:55 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Wow_Factor: Yes I know there are many mosques in the UK. Also in New York City

The main one is the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, Judaism being a much earlier religion than Islam.



and some more



Taken from commentary on youtube:
On August 16, 2010 radio program, Host and American Poltical Commentator Michael Savage talks about Mosques built on other religious sites as a sign of victory in Jihad against Non-Muslims.
Mr Savage names the following mosques built over other religious sites:
1, al aqsa mosque in Israel over the Temple Mount.
2. the great mosque of Cordova conquest of the visigothic kingdom.
3. 1528 babri (after babar) majid mosque destroying the hindu temple....To name 3 and there are several others.
Ground Zero islamic victory mosque Jews Hindus Christians against jihadi islam terrorism Ayodhya Temple Mount Ram Mandir Church Cathedral Spain Turkey Al-Aqsa 9/11 7/11 26/11 Mumbai WTC Michael Savage Dharma Hinduism Judaism Buddhism Buddha Taliban destroy bamiyan quran kaffir hijab france uk usa India




Allah is an ancient pagan goddess of the moon to the pre islamic period, long before the beginning of Christianity.

That has long been adored goddess Sibyl, or Mother Nature that appeared in various nations under the names: Kibel, Kubel, Sibeb, Kibeb, Kupaba, Gubaba and Kupapa. The cult of female fertility has been cherished throughout the world, and are thus created and the goddess of love and debauchery: Allah, Sears, Venus, Artemis, Aphrodite, Medusa, etc.. Mesca Babylonian goddess named Sin and Ishtar. In Egypt her name was Isis, and the Arabs - ALLAH.

Sibyl as Diana in the early Christians regarded as "Black Virgin".

Sibilin temple was discovered in Pergamosu, in Asia Minor, where he adored the Black Stone. In Revelation chapter 3, verse 13, Jesus speaks of Pergamosu and says Satan seat there.
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Sep 27, 2010 9:58 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
and Boban wouldn`t be Boban if he wouldn`t forget something....laugh



basically every pagan belief is based on the sun, moon and stars. These gods were given different names, but the essence of all beliefs is the same.
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Sep 27, 2010 9:59 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
Wow_Factor: The row of question marks is the arabic text which does is not supported by this website


So were the mosques in the UK built on areas of conquest?

When the word conquest is used, it will often relate to a battle of some sort, where there has been bloodshed, or something was taken by force.

And I do not recall that any Mosque built in the UK to date was "conquered by muslims". There most certainly has not been anything in the news during my lifetime to support that Muslims have conquered any ground here in the UK by force to build a mosque.

But there is also another train of thought but to understand that you have to know how some people think.

These words could explain to how some might view others "chipping away at society".
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Sep 27, 2010 10:00 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Boban1: Allah is an ancient pagan goddess of the moon to the pre islamic period, long before the beginning of Christianity.

That has long been adored goddess Sibyl, or Mother Nature that appeared in various nations under the names: Kibel, Kubel, Sibeb, Kibeb, Kupaba, Gubaba and Kupapa. The cult of female fertility has been cherished throughout the world, and are thus created and the goddess of love and debauchery: Allah, Sears, Venus, Artemis, Aphrodite, Medusa, etc.. Mesca Babylonian goddess named Sin and Ishtar. In Egypt her name was Isis, and the Arabs - ALLAH.

Sibyl as Diana in the early Christians regarded as "Black Virgin".

Sibilin temple was discovered in Pergamosu, in Asia Minor, where he adored the Black Stone. In Revelation chapter 3, verse 13, Jesus speaks of Pergamosu and says Satan seat there.


Interesting information!

In my mind, there is only one true God. He is a loving, caring God and does not feel happy about wars in the name of religion. In my opinion my God is very different from the muslim god due to the hate filled versus about murder or conversion of non-believers.
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Sep 27, 2010 10:03 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Veritaas: So were the mosques in the UK built on areas of conquest?

When the word conquest is used, it will often relate to a battle of some sort, where there has been bloodshed, or something was taken by force.

And I do not recall that any Mosque built in the UK to date was "conquered by muslims". There most certainly has not been anything in the news during my lifetime to support that Muslims have conquered any ground here in the UK by force to build a mosque.

But there is also another train of thought but to understand that you have to know how some people think.

These words could explain to how some might view others "chipping away at society".


Of course they weren't. Only in times of war and conquest are they built. Which is why I mentioned that the muslims - the radical ones - deem the WTC site as a site of conquest which is abhorrent to me, and more so to those who tragically lost family members on that day. NY has lots of mosques, and a 13 storey one 300 feet from the WTC site is a slap in the face to everything civilisation holds true and dear. Thanks for posting the question Veritas, because you are probably not the only person who wonders about the subject.
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Sep 27, 2010 10:07 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Wow_Factor: Interesting information!

In my mind, there is only one true God. He is a loving, caring God and does not feel happy about wars in the name of religion. In my opinion my God is very different from the muslim god due to the hate filled versus about murder or conversion of non-believers.


I hope that you will realize that the hate was deliberately implanted
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Sep 27, 2010 10:10 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
deadbutwhy
deadbutwhydeadbutwhyeast, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia9 Threads 2 Polls 1,295 Posts
Wow_Factor: Of course they weren't. Only in times of war and conquest are they built. Which is why I mentioned that the muslims - the radical ones - deem the WTC site as a site of conquest which is abhorrent to me, and more so to those who tragically lost family members on that day. NY has lots of mosques, and a 13 storey one 300 feet from the WTC site is a slap in the face to everything civilisation holds true and dear. Thanks for posting the question Veritas, because you are probably not the only person who wonders about the subject.

It still makes no sense... they build mosques every day in Saudi Arabia... what's the difference from building churches in Greece?
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Sep 27, 2010 10:17 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
deadbutwhy: It still makes no sense... they build mosques every day in Saudi Arabia... what's the difference from building churches in Greece?


What makes no sense?
Are you saying it makes no sense to build a mosque near the WTC site. If so I totally agree.
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Sep 27, 2010 10:31 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
deadbutwhy
deadbutwhydeadbutwhyeast, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia9 Threads 2 Polls 1,295 Posts
Wow_Factor: What makes no sense?
Are you saying it makes no sense to build a mosque near the WTC site. If so I totally agree.

Your assertion that Muslims build mosques in locations of their 'conquest.' Rather, they build mosques for the same reasons that Christians build churches.
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