Mosque on WTC site ( Archived) (308)

Jun 27, 2010 6:58 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
RayfromUSA: Nah, it's just another scam.

There's not a "13 story mosque" in the world.
And there's certainly not any muslim group in the states with the money to build one.

It's just another scam to get people all excited and ready for another invasion or something.

Here in France where there are millions of muslims this kind of scam happens pretty often. (by people trying to hype up hatred).

Once a Russian mafia guy who owned a pub where my group played from time to time explained to me about a scam that he and his friends had done in a small town called Saint Chamond.
They started a rumor that a big mosque was going to be built near the town square. They even printed a legal notice in the paper describing the mosque and they obtained a building permit. Property values fell sharply in the area and they were able to buy up an entire city block for less than half the price it would have cost without the scam. Then they announced that the mosque project was canceled and resold the property.
They doubled their money.


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing That's brainy!
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Jun 27, 2010 7:05 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
RayfromUSA: Nah, it's just another scam.

There's not a "13 story mosque" in the world.
And there's certainly not any muslim group in the states with the money to build one.

It's just another scam to get people all excited and ready for another invasion or something.

Here in France where there are millions of muslims this kind of scam happens pretty often. (by people trying to hype up hatred).

Once a Russian mafia guy who owned a pub where my group played from time to time explained to me about a scam that he and his friends had done in a small town called Saint Chamond.
They started a rumor that a big mosque was going to be built near the town square. They even printed a legal notice in the paper describing the mosque and they obtained a building permit. Property values fell sharply in the area and they were able to buy up an entire city block for less than half the price it would have cost without the scam. Then they announced that the mosque project was canceled and resold the property.
They doubled their money.


Really?
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Jun 27, 2010 7:05 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
RayfromUSA: Nah, it's just another scam.

There's not a "13 story mosque" in the world.
And there's certainly not any muslim group in the states with the money to build one.

It's just another scam to get people all excited and ready for another invasion or something.

Here in France where there are millions of muslims this kind of scam happens pretty often. (by people trying to hype up hatred).

Once a Russian mafia guy who owned a pub where my group played from time to time explained to me about a scam that he and his friends had done in a small town called Saint Chamond.
They started a rumor that a big mosque was going to be built near the town square. They even printed a legal notice in the paper describing the mosque and they obtained a building permit. Property values fell sharply in the area and they were able to buy up an entire city block for less than half the price it would have cost without the scam. Then they announced that the mosque project was canceled and resold the property.
They doubled their money.
Maybe....but there are a few Muslims that think it is not a good idea as well....and they in my eyes should prove to the world that this is just wrong.


here is an interesting read if anyone should be interested...



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Jun 27, 2010 7:11 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Dreamyone: You tell me that when your child goes over tothat damn sand pit and comes back in a freaken BOX

teddybear sad flower American patriots live, and die, for America, and American opportunities, those who deny the TRUTH you live, and express deny protections of America. Instead they protect their own, self-loves, their personal passions, and pleasure without any concern for the lives of others. They can give a good speach, they can sit in the pews of our churches, but their actions speak of their god, and selfish desires, their community organizations.
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Jun 27, 2010 7:19 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Thanks for that link! thumbs up
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Jun 27, 2010 7:25 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
outdoorgirlsun: Sorry, but it is to many American people, especially families of those that lost their lives. Which are in the thousands!


Did no muslims die on 911?
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Jun 27, 2010 7:26 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Godsgift: Did no muslims die on 911?


You'd think not from the "no-mosque" side.dunno
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Jun 27, 2010 7:53 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Godsgift: Did no muslims die on 911?
Human beings died at the hands of individual terrorist, who use the weapons of their choice to inflict harm, and death on an innocent people. A weapon that embraced a religion, embraced an atmosphere of given priveleges without the need to earn them, and embraced the lives of a trusting public who operated the airlines, aircaft, and boarded those same aircraft with trusting passengers. Weapons used, abused, and designed to inflict death, and destruction. Human beings of many walks of life died while a radical Muslim affiliated group waged war with blind approval of a religion that was severely called into question. Who do you think, first, must regain the Trust, the Truth, of their intent? The American public protecting their REPUBLIC, or a congregation of Muslims who cannot even control the religious authority, its roots in their own lands?
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Jun 28, 2010 4:10 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Statue of Liberty on the site of Indian massacre...

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Jun 28, 2010 4:20 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Perhaps if you guys in the US build mosques all over the place, you won't get attacked again!idea

Nah! hmmm Israel would probably nuke ya!laugh
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Jun 28, 2010 6:34 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
But can they shoot straight? That is long reach from Israel to the US. So, somehow I don't see them pointing them in out direction.
On the other hand....the next time a Russian cargo vessel get hijacked....anyplace in the world.....inchy trigger fingers in Israel could be flipping up the safety latch on the toggle switch for launch.
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Jun 28, 2010 7:46 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
davpk10: Ray I only posted that link to show that Muslim themselve are also agaisnt the mosque being build there....as far as the gal that is stirring trouble I could care less what she does ...I think it is bull that they even think it is ok to build there....


These guys are using their religious for political positions and statements.....yes, many do. This move on the chess board of Islamic CARE PR ...is eventually get to say the US denied the right have a Mosque there and denied our freedom of religion. Hence a court case that ends up in the Supreme court.

Or show that there is a lot hostility in the US to Islam. These comments we make here are read by many Moslems.

But if this goes the legal route.....here is what is going to happen.

During the sametime...that the DOJ is trying SMK and the other from GITMO in US civilian courts. So all kinds of back room deals can be made for them. We will pull the application for the NYC mosques...if you take 10 years off their sentences....that kind of gamy stuff.

See...to get Sharia law...into a country....they have to compromise the law of the country. Make it look inept and corrupt. This is what has happened in Afghansitan with the Taliban. It why the local Afghans are against Karsia...the Taliban has fed them line he corrupt and inept. OK maybe he is.
But who has extended that thought into the Afghan people? The Taliban.

They have played this legal game in Europe over the French vial ruling. They have played this legal game over the school facilities rulings here in the US. They have played this legal game over seperate washing of fork and spoons at US prisons. They played this legal game over the group of Imans that were halted from entering a commerical aircraft after knell prayer in front of the boarding passenger.

It can be played on the micro legal issue like soup spoons or the major legal issue like freedom of religion. But the goal is the same....to cause people to distrust the laws and legal institutions of the country. And turn to Sharia law and Islamic rule.
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Jun 28, 2010 7:46 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
RayfromUSA: Nah, it's just another scam.

There's not a "13 story mosque" in the world. That is a pretty broad statement. What about that huge monolith in Mecca? That must be at least 13 stories tall.
And there's certainly not any muslim group in the states with the money to build one. Are you serious? Man you sure can come out with some absurd statements. Building a Mosque at ground zero wouldn't even scratch the surface of the Billions of dollars the muslim community has at its disposal Think OIL & Poppies.

It's just another scam to get people all excited and ready for another invasion or something.

Here in France where there are millions of muslims this kind of scam happens pretty often. (by people trying to hype up hatred).

Once a Russian mafia guy who owned a pub where my group played from time to time explained to me about a scam that he and his friends had done in a small town called Saint Chamond.
They started a rumor that a big mosque was going to be built near the town square. They even printed a legal notice in the paper describing the mosque and they obtained a building permit. Property values fell sharply in the area and they were able to buy up an entire city block for less than half the price it would have cost without the scam. Then they announced that the mosque project was canceled and resold the property.
They doubled their money.
That was a pretty sophisticated scam, a mirror of the common "Pump & Dump" scam.
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Jun 28, 2010 7:51 AM CST Mosque on WTC site
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
ttom500: These guys are using their religious for political positions and statements.....yes, many do. This move on the chess board of Islamic CARE PR ...is eventually get to say the US denied the right have a Mosque there and denied our freedom of religion. Hence a court case that ends up in the Supreme court.

Or show that there is a lot hostility in the US to Islam. These comments we make here are read by many Moslems.

But if this goes the legal route.....here is what is going to happen.

During the sametime...that the DOJ is trying SMK and the other from GITMO in US civilian courts. So all kinds of back room deals can be made for them. We will pull the application for the NYC mosques...if you take 10 years off their sentences....that kind of gamy stuff.

See...to get Sharia law...into a country....they have to compromise the law of the country. Make it look inept and corrupt. This is what has happened in Afghansitan with the Taliban. It why the local Afghans are against Karsia...the Taliban has fed them line he corrupt and inept. OK maybe he is.
But who has extended that thought into the Afghan people? The Taliban.

They have played this legal game in Europe over the French vial ruling. They have played this legal game over the school facilities rulings here in the US. They have played this legal game over seperate washing of fork and spoons at US prisons. They played this legal game over the group of Imans that were halted from entering a commerical aircraft after knell prayer in front of the boarding passenger.

It can be played on the micro legal issue like soup spoons or the major legal issue like freedom of religion. But the goal is the same....to cause people to distrust the laws and legal institutions of the country. And turn to Sharia law and Islamic rule.
I trust what you say here is true.....no arguement......still does not mean that it is ok to build a Mosque there.....Or any church for that matter...it is in fact a burial site where I am sure bodies (or at least parts of bodies) are still buried....it is sorta like building a church in the graveyard....just build the thing down the street a few more blocks and everyone can be happy....dunno
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Jul 1, 2010 6:34 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
RANDY72
RANDY72RANDY72Ceres, California USA383 Posts
Abram: While I agree with you on just about everything, I can't agree with just throwing ones arms in the air, and quiting the fight. I know something about frustration, near death injuries, and being restrained by an outside force, restricting me of freedoms, and liberties others were enjoying. I'd be dead if I gave in to the demands, and fighting against the restrictions limiting my opportunities meant, means, allowing those of the restrictive policies unlimited opportunities. We are not fighting a single terrorist group here in America, or in various areas around the world. It is a conglomeration of groups both seperate, but united of a singular intention, selfish ideal. A fight against powers that can easily deny similarities, and claiming to fight the evil of terrorist, when in fact those same powers govern, maintain power, with elements of fear, intimidation, and coercion. The ezact definition of terrorist, who are using the weapons at their disposal.

This war is only going to be won by every individual standing together, and removing ever source of income by which the terrorist survive. Alone, it hurts like hell, and it hurts even more watching others walk blindly by without even a glance, like it doesn't exist. I call that just has guilty has the terrorist by enabling them.



Spoken like a true patriot.
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Jul 1, 2010 6:41 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
I say let them build the mosque, spend money on hiring American workers and when complete....blow it up and say....9/11 payback.
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Jul 1, 2010 6:43 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
ooby_dooby: This is an outrage.


Sorry Ooby.... I haven't had time to check out the link but I have it on good authority that this would just be a load of ol' cobblers, my friend.

cheers
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Jul 1, 2010 6:45 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Steve5721: I say let them build the mosque, spend money on hiring American workers and when complete....blow it up and say....9/11 payback.
Can we do it on the 4TH...grin
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Jul 3, 2010 1:23 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Dreamyone
DreamyoneDreamyoneRaleigh, North Carolina USA4 Threads 1 Polls 913 Posts
Steve5721: I say let them build the mosque, spend money on hiring American workers and when complete....blow it up and say....9/11 payback.
head banger applause cheering
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Jul 3, 2010 1:26 PM CST Mosque on WTC site
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
wow No way
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