Justme4uokOPNorthern CA, California USA5,737 posts
I never said I wrote this and I was only thanking people for taking the time to read it!
I was never asked if I wrote it and never insinuated that I did....If asked I would have indicated where it was taken from.... But that didn't happen.........This is just one of the reason the forums are the way they are.... always looking for a reason to attack someone, when I did nothing wrong but share some information....
I guess some people on CS just rank themselves as holyer than thou....
Justme4uok: I never said I wrote this and I was only thanking people for taking the time to read it!
I was never asked if I wrote it and never insinuated that I did....If asked I would have indicated where it was taken from.... But that didn't happen.........This is just one of the reason the forums are the way they are.... always looking for a reason to attack someone, when I did nothing wrong but share some information....
I guess some people on CS just rank themselves as holyer than thou....
No offense intended, but when you said... "I don't usually start many threads, however after taking a really hard look at myself and seeing how others interact on this site and my own behavoir, I just wanted to share the following thoughts", and then followed it with that piece without any kind of indication at all that those thoughts weren't your own.. it certainly gives reason to be suspect.
I mean, it was only a matter of a few words, even, like 'share these thoughts' + 'I found', or 'I read', or 'by ________'?
It is formal practice to quote and/or cite things that aren't your own- And this is just the reason why we do it, and why we teach kids in school that it needs to be done.
I'm not suggesting you were attempting plagiary, but at the very least you're guilty of poor typographical form implicating potential for such.
And that's not nearly as bad as plagiarism. Not even on the same page, really! (Although it does look rather bad, as indicated by, well, pretty much page #3 up to now )
Barrellofart: No offense intended, but when you said... "I don't usually start many threads, however after taking a really hard look at myself and seeing how others interact on this site and my own behavoir, I just wanted to share the following thoughts", and then followed it with that piece without any kind of indication at all that those thoughts weren't your own.. it certainly gives reason to be suspect.
I mean, it was only a matter of a few words, even, like 'share these thoughts' + 'I found', or 'I read', or 'by ________'?
It is formal practice to quote and/or cite things that aren't your own- And this is just the reason why we do it, and why we teach kids in school that it needs to be done.
I'm not suggesting you were attempting plagiary, but at the very least you're guilty of poor typographical form implicating potential for such. And that's not nearly as bad as plagiarism. Not even on the same page, really! (Although it does look rather bad, as indicated by, well, pretty much page #3 up to now )
i says after these are my thoughts and then it says thanks for taking the time to read it at the end
im not sure what happened here
i tried to overlook it as i am familiar with the material...
however all day people post here and note the source
this is a person who has a career and is quite computer savvy so i dont feel anyone was beating her up or expecting some level of participation that she would have been innocently ignorant of.
i am sad it turned out the way it did- as far as her not owning her choice and also a bit disappointed at the hypocrisy in her statement at which point apparently she stormed out since i have seen her and been the victim of her blatent unkindness personally
so to come in and do this and then play victim and take her toys and leave the sandbox cuz we're big meanies makes me sad
im concerned that she is hurting and now thats not gonna be helped. here, anyway
Look...nothing people say is original..but somehow we grab on to things we read and say..''Yes..that's me..or I identify with that''...and we apply to it ourselves and it becomes a part of us.
I know I DO...
Big deal..even if she did't write it,I'd rather see threads like this sometimes than ''Make some rhymes ...you slimes..'' or some silly nonsense like that.
At least there's substance,and if it helped even one person,I feel it was worth the read..
So plageurized or not...I THINK she deserves the credit for posting it..
thewall2: Look...nothing people say is original..but somehow we grab on to things we read and say..''Yes..that's me..or I identify with that''...and we apply to it ourselves and it becomes a part of us.
I know I DO...
Big deal..even if she did't write it,I'd rather see threads like this sometimes than ''Make some rhymes ...you slimes..'' or some silly nonsense like that.
At least there's substance,and if it helped even one person,I feel it was worth the read..
So plageurized or not...I THINK she deserves the credit for posting it..
mindfful: i says after these are my thoughts and then it says thanks for taking the time to read it at the end
im not sure what happened here
i tried to overlook it as i am familiar with the material...
however all day people post here and note the source
this is a person who has a career and is quite computer savvy so i dont feel anyone was beating her up or expecting some level of participation that she would have been innocently ignorant of.
i am sad it turned out the way it did- as far as her not owning her choice and also a bit disappointed at the hypocrisy in her statement at which point apparently she stormed out since i have seen her and been the victim of her blatent unkindness personally
so to come in and do this and then play victim and take her toys and leave the sandbox cuz we're big meanies makes me sad
im concerned that she is hurting and now thats not gonna be helped. here, anyway
Exactly ... so the point is give credit where credit is due. Its simple to put something into quotations. How she reacts is her choice, just as it was to post as she posted it. If she chooses to get upset because someone pointed out the truth - she knows she was wrong - therefore she can suck it up and apologize or storm out in a tantrum. Its not about being sad, it simply didn't need to happen in the first place.
There is a lady I used to work for who called another store and happened to speak to our District Sales Manager - she lied to her and she was confronted. Now she's got nothing nice to say about our DM - but its a scene that she created for herself. I've got no sympathy for her because she made the choice to lie when it was not necessary.
well you are expecting accountability when people dont consider omission a lie... and those who do are called self righteous
i still stand by every word of my post relationships have lots of parts where the rubber meets the road and we must decide at every turn we are staying.
This is probably a great example of a situation where a person's response makes all the difference in the world.
Do you:
A) Get pissed that someone thought you were plagiarizing
OR
B) Be sorry that you accidentally posted something that made it look like you were taking credit for another person's work, and be sincerely apologetic that you failed to give that person due credit.
no I'm not confused for I will know you whoever you portray you r though being me if we we're to converse ... but you say you are confused so email me if you want to know more hahaha!!
demonfairyNewton,hickory, North Carolina USA5,654 posts
thewall2: Look...nothing people say is original..but somehow we grab on to things we read and say..''Yes..that's me..or I identify with that''...and we apply to it ourselves and it becomes a part of us.
I know I DO...
Big deal..even if she did't write it,I'd rather see threads like this sometimes than ''Make some rhymes ...you slimes..'' or some silly nonsense like that.
At least there's substance,and if it helped even one person,I feel it was worth the read..
So plageurized or not...I THINK she deserves the credit for posting it..
Justme4uok: I don't usually start many threads, however after taking a really hard look at myself and seeing how others interact on this site and my own behavoir, I just wanted to share the following thoughts.
Everybody wants to be loved for who they really are - beneath the masks they wear, the impressions they try to make and the mind games they play. But how do we go about doing that?
Many of the images we have of love and romance come from movies, television and romance novels. They're all about pursuit and capture, dominance and submission. Once the guy gets the girl, the movie ends. That leaves us with a considerably incomplete picture of love as it is in the real world.
At the start of the relationship, we are swept away by emotions and fantasies and expect the other person to fulfill them. When those expectations aren't met and we begin to see the imperfections and differences in our partner, we walk away. We search for the "perfect" partner, not knowing that he/she can never be enough because he/she will always be different from what we expect.
The beautiful thing about a romantic relationship is that love isn't found or fallen into -- it is co-created. Yet there are countless people who search for love as if it belongs to someone else. We don't find love. We find one another and allow love to grow between us.
Your partner has to get to know the real you -- what you're like when you're tired, angry, frustrated, elated or talking to your Mom on the phone. They have to love you as you are, not as they hope you might be. Anything less won't last.
Have you seen or read Bridget Jones's Diary? There's one scene where Mark Darcy tells Bridget "I like you, just as you are." She is floored. Why such a strong reaction to a simple comment? Because Mark is telling her that he really sees her and he likes what he sees. He didn't say he'd like her ten pounds lighter, or a little more sophisticated, or prettier, or better read. He likes her as she is, unconditionally. She doesn't have to try and impress him, he's already impressed.
A couple's love is tested through conflict and when they emerge from that still wanting to be together, they have proved that differences can be a good thing. Although many of us have the notion that differences are a dreadful thing, they actually open the way to true intimacy. They give us the opportunity to value how different we are from the one we love and use those differences to grow and change.
Knowing that you are loved for who you are lets you relax and let your guard down. It lets you be honest without fear of rejection, and frankly, it feels great.
We need to love others for whom they are if we desire to be loved in the same way. As two people look deeper and deeper into the relationship, they will find that the emotional intimacy between them expands so that there is more room for both of them. And remember that if you're not being loved for who you really are, you're not being loved at all. (JMO) Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this.
Barrellofart: This is probably a great example of a situation where a person's response makes all the difference in the world.
Do you:
A) Get pissed that someone thought you were plagiarizing
OR
B) Be sorry that you accidentally posted something that made it look like you were taking credit for another person's work, and be sincerely apologetic that you failed to give that person due credit.
langleygirl: Exactly ... so the point is give credit where credit is due. Its simple to put something into quotations. How she reacts is her choice, just as it was to post as she posted it. If she chooses to get upset because someone pointed out the truth - she knows she was wrong - therefore she can suck it up and apologize or storm out in a tantrum. Its not about being sad, it simply didn't need to happen in the first place.
There is a lady I used to work for who called another store and happened to speak to our District Sales Manager - she lied to her and she was confronted. Now she's got nothing nice to say about our DM - but its a scene that she created for herself. I've got no sympathy for her because she made the choice to lie when it was not necessary.
double quote..???, but u guys are very correct, i think perhaps the phrase is, you made you bed now lie in it..???, or simply, don't make it at all, haha, but Gosh people want to lie let them suffer the consequences....or work on their lieing skills..lol
Costapacket: I didnt read all that so ill just say Hi.....
Many catch phrases are in for todays world; like have no regrets and I want to be loved the way I am.
Well living with no regrets is one of the most selfish and arrogant things I've ever heard. If you don't have regrets, you don't have a conscious.
And we all have issues. What if one of them is cheating? Then is it cool to find someone that will put up with it and love us for who we are? What if we lie or worship money. Should we be loved for those things too?
It's easy to put the blame on others and think we are so perfect; it's what people do now; but it's wrong in my book.
You try to be the best person you can be, not just be who you are. So you should never improve?
Live with character and confidence and find people who do the same; which is getting harder in todays world.
And being different is ok, but not having things in common or common interests are not.
We should focus on being the best we can be, and having the ability to choose our partners wisely.
mjames: Many catch phrases are in for todays world; like have no regrets and I want to be loved the way I am.
Well living with no regrets is one of the most selfish and arrogant things I've ever heard. If you don't have regrets, you don't have a conscious.
And we all have issues. What if one of them is cheating? Then is it cool to find someone that will put up with it and love us for who we are? What if we lie or worship money. Should we be loved for those things too?
It's easy to put the blame on others and think we are so perfect; it's what people do now; but it's wrong in my book.
You try to be the best person you can be, not just be who you are. So you should never improve?
Live with character and confidence and find people who do the same; which is getting harder in todays world.
And being different is ok, but not having things in common or common interests are not.
We should focus on being the best we can be, and having the ability to choose our partners wisely.
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