Is everybody as flumoxed by wall art as I am? (25)
Oh, and THEN, the miserable metal hangers broke off of two of my poster frames. 
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Witchaywoman: Pictures are driving me mad! Mad, I say! I had a lot of frames. If you try to cut glass for the frames, the glass comes out crooked or always has a scratch or bubble. Or it breaks cleanly everywhere except for one sharp lump. When you try to pick that lump off with pliers, it cuts too far into the glass. Then you buy wood frames for cheap thinking you will just stain them darker, but the stain doesn't work and the paint chips off or you're back to glass.
If, by some odd chance, you do get the frame perfectly painted and the glass perfectly cut, there are still ways to screw up. The next thing you do is buy the cheap little doodad that gets nailed into the frame to make it hang from a nail. You know the one I mean. The miserable little piece of junk that looks like a strip of dull silver teeth. It has one miniscule pin hole on each side. You go to put the pins in with the crappy little tool that's supposed to push them into the wood effortlessly. It pushes the miserable rotten itty bitty silver nails exactly every which way they possibly can go except straight down into the wood where they're supposed to go. Or you can hold the nails vertical with pliers while attempting to hammer them in.
Then, you turn the frame over and discover that you have chipped the paint with all the exertion of pressure on the frame. Or the rotten little nails crack the wood. Then, you notice finger prints on the glass and dusty bits under the glass. Then, you scream and seear and break the frame and go back out in search of a new frame. So, a neat-o picture that you found for ten cents in a garage sale ends up ultimately costing $20-40 to frame. Arrrgggghhhhh!
I am now careful to only select cheap frames with glass in colors I like. And I'll only take the kind that have those bendy metal tabs or the swivelling tabs so that it's easy to hold the picture in place. I have donated so many frames BACK to charity over the years after driving myself nuts with them. Now, I just make it easier on myself. I have figured out how to use plain old frames too, but it's just not worth going mad over.
Relax, breath deep,close your eyes, think of nice things!If, by some odd chance, you do get the frame perfectly painted and the glass perfectly cut, there are still ways to screw up. The next thing you do is buy the cheap little doodad that gets nailed into the frame to make it hang from a nail. You know the one I mean. The miserable little piece of junk that looks like a strip of dull silver teeth. It has one miniscule pin hole on each side. You go to put the pins in with the crappy little tool that's supposed to push them into the wood effortlessly. It pushes the miserable rotten itty bitty silver nails exactly every which way they possibly can go except straight down into the wood where they're supposed to go. Or you can hold the nails vertical with pliers while attempting to hammer them in.
Then, you turn the frame over and discover that you have chipped the paint with all the exertion of pressure on the frame. Or the rotten little nails crack the wood. Then, you notice finger prints on the glass and dusty bits under the glass. Then, you scream and seear and break the frame and go back out in search of a new frame. So, a neat-o picture that you found for ten cents in a garage sale ends up ultimately costing $20-40 to frame. Arrrgggghhhhh!
I am now careful to only select cheap frames with glass in colors I like. And I'll only take the kind that have those bendy metal tabs or the swivelling tabs so that it's easy to hold the picture in place. I have donated so many frames BACK to charity over the years after driving myself nuts with them. Now, I just make it easier on myself. I have figured out how to use plain old frames too, but it's just not worth going mad over.
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Witchaywoman: Oh, and THEN, the miserable metal hangers broke off of two of my poster frames.
Die Tücke Des Objekts!phrase of the German novelist Friedrich Theodor Vischer: "die Tücke des Objekts" (the perversity of inanimate objects).
Basically "Murphy's Law!
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Conrad73: Die Tücke Des Objekts!
phrase of the German novelist Friedrich Theodor Vischer: "die Tücke des Objekts" (the perversity of inanimate objects).
Basically "Murphy's Law!
"Inanimate objects are out to get us," phrase of the German novelist Friedrich Theodor Vischer: "die Tücke des Objekts" (the perversity of inanimate objects).
Basically "Murphy's Law!
and they are too!
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Or, you get a nice new piece of window glass. You mark it with a sharpie and let it dry. You place it on a clean level table that doesn't wobble too much. Then, you cut the first part perfectly. For the second part, you drag your glass cutter along the ruler, tink the glass up and down the cut line, flip the glass and tink the other side. Flip it again and apply pressure, and the break is diagonal, nowhere near the line you cut and dangerous little shards flip off and land wherever they can do the most damage - now or later.
Or, you have a near perfect break with one little ding. You think: I will just hide the ding in the deep edges of the frame. Later on, the glass always slides to one side inadvertantly showing the ding. No matter what you do, the ding always resurfaces. You get the frame all smeary with finger prints while trying to push it back in place. You clean the frame with Windex. Windex pools up in the ding and puts a water spot on the picture. You run your finger over the ding while cleaning the glass. Blood gets in the picture. You try to turn the whole frame sideways and bonk the glass into place by wapping the whole frame on one side. The frame cracks, or the paint chips. The blood and windex stain still shows. I used to frame magazine pictures from NGEO in gilded frames. I had weird taste. Now, I frame junk that would lay around the house for decades taking up room because it's too good to throw away although other people's framing skills are far scarier than my own.
Or, you have a near perfect break with one little ding. You think: I will just hide the ding in the deep edges of the frame. Later on, the glass always slides to one side inadvertantly showing the ding. No matter what you do, the ding always resurfaces. You get the frame all smeary with finger prints while trying to push it back in place. You clean the frame with Windex. Windex pools up in the ding and puts a water spot on the picture. You run your finger over the ding while cleaning the glass. Blood gets in the picture. You try to turn the whole frame sideways and bonk the glass into place by wapping the whole frame on one side. The frame cracks, or the paint chips. The blood and windex stain still shows. I used to frame magazine pictures from NGEO in gilded frames. I had weird taste. Now, I frame junk that would lay around the house for decades taking up room because it's too good to throw away although other people's framing skills are far scarier than my own.
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Conrad73: "Inanimate objects are out to get us," they are too!
They are.
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Witchaywoman: Or, you get a nice new piece of window glass. You mark it with a sharpie and let it dry. You place it on a clean level table that doesn't wobble too much. Then, you cut the first part perfectly. For the second part, you drag your glass cutter along the ruler, tink the glass up and down the cut line, flip the glass and tink the other side. Flip it again and apply pressure, and the break is diagonal, nowhere near the line you cut and dangerous little shards flip off and land wherever they can do the most damage - now or later.
Or, you have a near perfect break with one little ding. You think: I will just hide the ding in the deep edges of the frame. Later on, the glass always slides to one side inadvertantly showing the ding. No matter what you do, the ding always resurfaces. You get the frame all smeary with finger prints while trying to push it back in place. You clean the frame with Windex. Windex pools up in the ding and puts a water spot on the picture. You run your finger over the ding while cleaning the glass. Blood gets in the picture. You try to turn the whole frame sideways and bonk the glass into place by wapping the whole frame on one side. The frame cracks, or the paint chips. The blood and windex stain still shows. I used to frame magazine pictures from NGEO in gilded frames. I had weird taste. Now, I frame junk that would lay around the house for decades taking up room because it's too good to throw away although other people's framing skills are far scarier than my own.
Or, you have a near perfect break with one little ding. You think: I will just hide the ding in the deep edges of the frame. Later on, the glass always slides to one side inadvertantly showing the ding. No matter what you do, the ding always resurfaces. You get the frame all smeary with finger prints while trying to push it back in place. You clean the frame with Windex. Windex pools up in the ding and puts a water spot on the picture. You run your finger over the ding while cleaning the glass. Blood gets in the picture. You try to turn the whole frame sideways and bonk the glass into place by wapping the whole frame on one side. The frame cracks, or the paint chips. The blood and windex stain still shows. I used to frame magazine pictures from NGEO in gilded frames. I had weird taste. Now, I frame junk that would lay around the house for decades taking up room because it's too good to throw away although other people's framing skills are far scarier than my own.
I thought I was the only one who did stuff like that
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Witchaywoman: Or, you get a nice new piece of window glass. You mark it with a sharpie and let it dry. You place it on a clean level table that doesn't wobble too much. Then, you cut the first part perfectly. For the second part, you drag your glass cutter along the ruler, tink the glass up and down the cut line, flip the glass and tink the other side. Flip it again and apply pressure, and the break is diagonal, nowhere near the line you cut and dangerous little shards flip off and land wherever they can do the most damage - now or later.
Or, you have a near perfect break with one little ding. You think: I will just hide the ding in the deep edges of the frame. Later on, the glass always slides to one side inadvertantly showing the ding. No matter what you do, the ding always resurfaces. You get the frame all smeary with finger prints while trying to push it back in place. You clean the frame with Windex. Windex pools up in the ding and puts a water spot on the picture. You run your finger over the ding while cleaning the glass. Blood gets in the picture. You try to turn the whole frame sideways and bonk the glass into place by wapping the whole frame on one side. The frame cracks, or the paint chips. The blood and windex stain still shows. I used to frame magazine pictures from NGEO in gilded frames. I had weird taste. Now, I frame junk that would lay around the house for decades taking up room because it's too good to throw away although other people's framing skills are far scarier than my own.
Remember,use a Sharp Glasscutter,and only score once!Or, you have a near perfect break with one little ding. You think: I will just hide the ding in the deep edges of the frame. Later on, the glass always slides to one side inadvertantly showing the ding. No matter what you do, the ding always resurfaces. You get the frame all smeary with finger prints while trying to push it back in place. You clean the frame with Windex. Windex pools up in the ding and puts a water spot on the picture. You run your finger over the ding while cleaning the glass. Blood gets in the picture. You try to turn the whole frame sideways and bonk the glass into place by wapping the whole frame on one side. The frame cracks, or the paint chips. The blood and windex stain still shows. I used to frame magazine pictures from NGEO in gilded frames. I had weird taste. Now, I frame junk that would lay around the house for decades taking up room because it's too good to throw away although other people's framing skills are far scarier than my own.
And it will still sometimes break where it wants!
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serene56: I thought I was the only one who did stuff like that
They make it sound so easy in magazines. They show a lady with a trendy haircut and spotless clothes waltzing around a room with a paint brush refinishing furniture, and when you try it at home it either looks horrible, costs more than new furniture, or the paint won't stick, stain won't sink in. Note: Never paint ANYTHING with Red Devil Enamel.
It always comes out horriffic looking no matter what you do. And for some reason, gnats love to fly into it screaming Bonsai and sticking their tiny unremovable corpses to your furniture for all eternity.------ This thread is Archived ------
Witchaywoman: They make it sound so easy in magazines. They show a lady with a trendy haircut and spotless clothes waltzing around a room with a paint brush refinishing furniture, and when you try it at home it either looks horrible, costs more than new furniture, or the paint won't stick, stain won't sink in. Note: Never paint ANYTHING with Red Devil Enamel. It always comes out horriffic looking no matter what you do. And for some reason, gnats love to fly into it screaming Bonsai and sticking their tiny unremovable corpses to your furniture for all eternity.
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Want some advice?
always use the write tools for the job, and use the correct fittings for fitting the correct hanging on the material your trying to hang it on.
For instance, plasterboard walls you will use a plastic hook, which will have three pins to individually tap in.
Solid walls are slightly different, and look more conventional.
Always use "Conservation Glass" which is non-reflective of daylight, allowing the colours to come out of the print.
Pick a frame from a store (and they all have a code on the rear in the industry, so they can be matched up at any gallery, anywhere.
If you need a little help, i can probably offer advice, but there will be materials to hand, and there are no special skills required to manufacture a frame in the design of your choosing.
And yes, i have plenty of art at this end, in the real world
always use the write tools for the job, and use the correct fittings for fitting the correct hanging on the material your trying to hang it on.
For instance, plasterboard walls you will use a plastic hook, which will have three pins to individually tap in.
Solid walls are slightly different, and look more conventional.
Always use "Conservation Glass" which is non-reflective of daylight, allowing the colours to come out of the print.
Pick a frame from a store (and they all have a code on the rear in the industry, so they can be matched up at any gallery, anywhere.
If you need a little help, i can probably offer advice, but there will be materials to hand, and there are no special skills required to manufacture a frame in the design of your choosing.
And yes, i have plenty of art at this end, in the real world
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Witchaywoman: They make it sound so easy in magazines. They show a lady with a trendy haircut and spotless clothes waltzing around a room with a paint brush refinishing furniture, and when you try it at home it either looks horrible, costs more than new furniture, or the paint won't stick, stain won't sink in. Note: Never paint ANYTHING with Red Devil Enamel. It always comes out horriffic looking no matter what you do. And for some reason, gnats love to fly into it screaming Bonsai and sticking their tiny unremovable corpses to your furniture for all eternity.
oh dear!
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Dear Witchaywoman
Just this morning I was thinking about paintings.
I live in a rented apartment and looking to have a small house built and I would love to have some painting ON the walls by some local great painters and have just a modest frame for them.
I do not like replicas and since I can not afford the originals of Van Gogh and others great artists, I will settle down for local art, that is an idea.
Just this morning I was thinking about paintings.
I live in a rented apartment and looking to have a small house built and I would love to have some painting ON the walls by some local great painters and have just a modest frame for them.
I do not like replicas and since I can not afford the originals of Van Gogh and others great artists, I will settle down for local art, that is an idea.
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Thread: Is everybody as flumoxed by wall art as I am?
Category: Music, Books, Art
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Then, you turn the frame over and discover that you have chipped the paint with all the exertion of pressure on the frame. Or the rotten little nails crack the wood. Then, you notice finger prints on the glass and dusty bits under the glass. Then, you scream and seear and break the frame and go back out in search of a new frame. So, a neat-o picture that you found for ten cents in a garage sale ends up ultimately costing $20-40 to frame. Arrrgggghhhhh!
I am now careful to only select cheap frames with glass in colors I like. And I'll only take the kind that have those bendy metal tabs or the swivelling tabs so that it's easy to hold the picture in place. I have donated so many frames BACK to charity over the years after driving myself nuts with them. Now, I just make it easier on myself. I have figured out how to use plain old frames too, but it's just not worth going mad over.
If we live our lives the right way, then everything we do can become a work of art...
Patience when doing up frames; if you paint them, hang them around your neck to dry; a real work or conceptual art: you've been framed!
Category: Music, Books, Art
Thread Author: Witchaywoman
Post Author: Witchaywoma
Then, you turn the frame over and discover that you have chipped the paint with all the exertion of pressure on the frame. Or the rotten little nails crack the wood. Then, you notice finger prints on the glass and dusty bits under the glass. Then, you scream and seear and break the frame and go back out in search of a new frame. So, a neat-o picture that you found for ten cents in a garage sale ends up ultimately costing $20-40 to frame. Arrrgggghhhhh!
I am now careful to only select cheap frames with glass in colors I like. And I'll only take the kind that have those bendy metal tabs or the swivelling tabs so that it's easy to hold the picture in place. I have donated so many frames BACK to charity over the years after driving myself nuts with them. Now, I just make it easier on myself. I have figured out how to use plain old frames too, but it's just not worth going mad over.
If we live our lives the right way, then everything we do can become a work of art...
Patience when doing up frames; if you paint them, hang them around your neck to dry; a real work or conceptual art: you've been framed!
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another reason why i enjoy a good fabric wall hanging
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Seatraveler: I've never been flumoxed. I don't think so anyway.
chin up
youve still something to look forward to
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Do I have to come out there and show you how it's done?
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If, by some odd chance, you do get the frame perfectly painted and the glass perfectly cut, there are still ways to screw up. The next thing you do is buy the cheap little doodad that gets nailed into the frame to make it hang from a nail. You know the one I mean. The miserable little piece of junk that looks like a strip of dull silver teeth. It has one miniscule pin hole on each side. You go to put the pins in with the crappy little tool that's supposed to push them into the wood effortlessly. It pushes the miserable rotten itty bitty silver nails exactly every which way they possibly can go except straight down into the wood where they're supposed to go. Or you can hold the nails vertical with pliers while attempting to hammer them in.
Then, you turn the frame over and discover that you have chipped the paint with all the exertion of pressure on the frame. Or the rotten little nails crack the wood. Then, you notice finger prints on the glass and dusty bits under the glass. Then, you scream and seear and break the frame and go back out in search of a new frame. So, a neat-o picture that you found for ten cents in a garage sale ends up ultimately costing $20-40 to frame. Arrrgggghhhhh!
I am now careful to only select cheap frames with glass in colors I like. And I'll only take the kind that have those bendy metal tabs or the swivelling tabs so that it's easy to hold the picture in place. I have donated so many frames BACK to charity over the years after driving myself nuts with them. Now, I just make it easier on myself. I have figured out how to use plain old frames too, but it's just not worth going mad over.