seanieboy77: no there not great at all a right shower. i have no time for the hizbullah hitting up Israel. Dont get me wrong i dont hate Israel but they have unlimited resources and they should make the best of them. IM not a jew hater just in case you think i am. im just fed up of how they do there business and how they can get away with not respecting international law
Not calling you a Jewhater But think,how are you gonna fight an Enemy like Hamas and Hizbollah that have no intention of keeping International Law? Holding one sides Feet to the Fire,and shrug off what the other side,Hamas etc does? Nobody crowed about,that the Guy in Dubai regularly traveled on a half Dozen Passports!
Conrad73: Not calling you a Jewhater But think,how are you gonna fight an Enemy like Hamas and Hizbollah that have no intention of keeping International Law? Holding one sides Feet to the Fire,and shrug off what the other side,Hamas etc does? Nobody crowed about,that the Guy in Dubai regularly traveled on a half Dozen Passports!
BS Conrad, He never Used fake British OR Irish Passports. There you go twisting things to make Israel look blameless.
Conrad73: Not calling you a Jewhater But think,how are you gonna fight an Enemy like Hamas and Hizbollah that have no intention of keeping International Law? Holding one sides Feet to the Fire,and shrug off what the other side,Hamas etc does? Nobody crowed about,that the Guy in Dubai regularly traveled on a half Dozen Passports!
Besides Conrad, you are dodging the guys main point THAT ISRAEL HAS TOTAL DISREGARD FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW SO WHAT MAKES THEM ANY DIFFERENT THAT HAMAS, WHICH ISRAEL CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE
seanieboy77: I find little respect in killing anybody. why should i drop my standards as a professional soldier. I have never had to hurt anybody with my personal weapon in all the years that i have served overseas in lebanon for 3 trips served over differant periods 1 trip to somalia 1 trip to kosova and 1 trip to eritrea/ethiopia. each trip is 6 month tour. I have at differant times in my career had to operate on checkpoints and disarm hizbullah from attacking compounds and we done a damn good job mostly but not always , silverbirch touched on the subject of hezbullah launching attacks near U.N. compounds this is correct partially. The hezbullah used to try launch rpg attacks from near our compounds but we put a big stop to that but then they used to find old dirt roads to attack the IDF compounds instead this in turn would set the israelis alight and blame it all on us. every scrape that i have been in i have used my communication skills to get out of trouble without having to hurt anybody. maybe if they werent as trigger happy and maybe a bit more respect for life then there wouldnt be as much bloodshed
I have spent 4 days at a time in bunkers from being hit up by Israeli merkava tank shells spewing all over the A.O. . I remember to pass the time so that we wouldnt think or be afraid of the shells falling all around us we would give odds as to where the next shell would land for $5 dollars a go. Even at the times that they werent being hit up they used to use our compounds as target practise at there own leisure just to zero there weapons also backed by the SLA ( south lebanese army) a friend of mine was killed by them in a village by the name of Attiri Cpl Mccarthy of the 70th infantry battalian ( irish batt) he was on patrol and they were gunned down mercilessly by israelis and SLA mercenaries. Our medics went into save him and give him aid and the unarmed medics came under fire how cowardly they were. that is not the only incident. firing happened from the israeli compounds on a almost daily basis without regard for life nor limb. i have seen the hospital in tibnin bombarded how cowardly is that damn them. who are these Israeli people who claim they dont want to hit unarmed people. or another time in 1996 when they hit up the U.N. compound in Quana and killed all before them. ya there really great people ok . while you say that hizbullah do launch attacks from these places which is correct partially does it give them the right to target there as professionals they definitely should not repeat not in any circumstance do that Everybody knows that Israelis are one of the best professional outfits along with the brits on this planet. so why do they think they need to resort to doing this. its blind revenge and just unleashing anger and they know that they will get away with it.
SilverBirch: Besides Conrad, you are dodging the guys main point THAT ISRAEL HAS TOTAL DISREGARD FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW SO WHAT MAKES THEM ANY DIFFERENT THAT HAMAS, WHICH ISRAEL CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE
Get more Fool! Israel created Hamas?
You're totally off the Deep end now! About at the level of your two Conspiracy-Lover Friends!
You're a good one to talk about International Law! So it is OK for Hamas to disregard it,but not OK for Israel to fight fire with Fire? Really thought you were more intelligent than to try putting this Crap on the Table!
SilverBirch: Besides Conrad, you are dodging the guys main point THAT ISRAEL HAS TOTAL DISREGARD FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW SO WHAT MAKES THEM ANY DIFFERENT THAT HAMAS, WHICH ISRAEL CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE
Interesting! You constantly blab about International Law,International Community etc. but are quite short defining it!
You're totally off the Deep end now! About at the level of your two Conspiracy-Lover Friends!
You're a good one to talk about International Law! So it is OK for Hamas to disregard it,but not OK for Israel to fight fire with Fire? Really thought you were more intelligent than to try putting this Crap on the Table!
LOL...I was waiting for someone to pick that up......nice catch Conrad... Isreal created Hamas!!!
To do what?
To reduce the population of Israel with car and bus bombings? With rocket and mortar attacks?
When I read that....said myself...."SB has totally lost it. Time to put him in the same room with Dude the mental technician and see what pops out. Then said to self.....Oh no not that....a hour of Dude and SB would mean a end of reality as we know it."
ttom500: LOL...I was waiting for someone to pick that up......nice catch Conrad... Isreal created Hamas!!!
To do what?
To reduce the population of Israel with car and bus bombings? With rocket and mortar attacks?
When I read that....said myself...."SB has totally lost it. Time to put him in the same room with Dude the mental technician and see what pops out. Then said to self.....Oh no not that....a hour of Dude and SB would mean a end of reality as we know it."
Conrad73: Quana? Better read up on that again!http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/08/hezbollywood-evidence-mounts-that-qana-collapse-and-deaths-were-staged.html
no not been had my dear man. i have friends who were there i have no reason to lie. i read the reports shur maybe my friends who happened to be there are lying i dont think so. maybe i was lieing too about my colleague cut mowed down by israeli machine gun fire while he was on a routine patrol too
seanieboy77: no not been had my dear man. i have friends who were there i have no reason to lie. i read the reports shur maybe my friends who happened to be there are lying i dont think so. maybe i was lieing too about my colleague cut mowed down by israeli machine gun fire while he was on a routine patrol too
Never said you lied! Only said you might have been had! Don't blame Israel for the UN's stupidity of putting you in the middle of Hezbollah-Country!
so are you actually saying that my colleague who was wearing irish army uniform was murdered because of the U.N. and not because the israeli army just decided to cut him down.
come on conrad youre a mature man and i know this is a forum where opinions are thrown about but look nobody deserves for a man in irish army uniform with perfectly visible colours to be cut down and for unarmed medics to come to his aid and to be fired upon in the same way. are you telling me that these guys deserved this because they were on patrol for the U.N.
so because of Israel cutting him and my colleagues down i shouldnt blame Israel for doing it what kind of madness is that in all fairness??
Have you ever been to the Area of Operation. The place in question (ATTIRI VILLAGE) was in the Israeli controlled zone where absolutely nothing happens even with Hizbullah. The village in question was abandoned by young lebanese people for fear of being recruited into the SLA (south lebanese army ) a militia of mercenaries for the Israelis. The reason the patrols were being done was to make sure that the rest of its inhabitants (old people) were taken care of and to see if they had enough medical aid. We done a lot of good work in lebanon building orphanages for the children schools and a lot of other worthwhile humanitarian work in the area and built up a sound working relationship with its people who in the most part are really good people.
seanieboy77: so are you actually saying that my colleague who was wearing irish army uniform was murdered because of the U.N. and not because the israeli army just decided to cut him down.
come on conrad youre a mature man and i know this is a forum where opinions are thrown about but look nobody deserves for a man in irish army uniform with perfectly visible colours to be cut down and for unarmed medics to come to his aid and to be fired upon in the same way. are you telling me that these guys deserved this because they were on patrol for the U.N.
so because of Israel cutting him and my colleagues down i shouldnt blame Israel for doing it what kind of madness is that in all fairness??
Have you ever been to the Area of Operation. The place in question (ATTIRI VILLAGE) was in the Israeli controlled zone where absolutely nothing happens even with Hizbullah. The village in question was abandoned by young lebanese people for fear of being recruited into the SLA (south lebanese army ) a militia of mercenaries for the Israelis. The reason the patrols were being done was to make sure that the rest of its inhabitants (old people) were taken care of and to see if they had enough medical aid. We done a lot of good work in lebanon building orphanages for the children schools and a lot of other worthwhile humanitarian work in the area and built up a sound working relationship with its people who in the most part are really good people.
Do you really think that the IDF has Open Season on Blue Helmets?
Some Idiots put you in the middle of a Fight,you really shouldn't have been!
i'm not sure conrad why these incidents have happened down through the years. all i know is that we had a job to do especially in ATTIRI to make sure that the old people were cared for medically and for food. The village was on the edge of our outpost and you know if anybody has any cop on at all you just can't let people die or starve as these people were within a safe zone well away from hizbullah as compared from the other side of the hill 880
Sean, These guys are on the payroll. You won't get any concessions out of them no matter how much you explain it to them. Well done though. Particularly ttom, will finally realize how stupid his posts appear now that you've provided "grass roots" evidence of the IDF's barbarity and total lack of respect for international "rules of engagement". Well done.
SilverBirch: Sean, These guys are on the payroll. You won't get any concessions out of them no matter how much you explain it to them. Well done though. Particularly ttom, will finally realize how stupid his posts appear now that you've provided "grass roots" evidence of the IDF's barbarity and total lack of respect for international "rules of engagement". Well done.
You really need to lay off that INTERNATIONAL Crap! All he provided is,that some Idiots put them in Harm'ss way! You have no Idea anyway.
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