Israel: War = Expansion (846)
SilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 PostsConman, I think it was in my Israel, Quest for Global Domination thread where I posited the collective energy the Zionist state puts out to control popular opinion. So U2Kittys' post to the same gives me a refreshed enthusiasm to expose you and your fodder. 
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SilverBirch: Conman, I think it was in my Israel, Quest for Global Domination thread where I posited the collective energy the Zionist state puts out to control popular opinion. So U2Kittys' post to the same gives me a refreshed enthusiasm to expose you and your fodder.
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Conrad73: You mean in another one of your Nonfact,Inane Rants?
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Conrad73: Nothing gonna change the Opinion of a Judeophobe like SB!
It's because there are Joos in that Country!
You outdid Chubby Checker long ago!
It's because there are Joos in that Country!
You outdid Chubby Checker long ago!
that kind of arguments become just redundant at some point, conrad. If i have read the post of u2kitty correctly, i can fairly and squarely conclude that the israeli state machinaries are getting desperate. In general, up until now, israel has demonstrated 'fark the world opinion' kind of mentality. But the post in concern shows that israel, as a state, probably is losing it big time, and hence the effort to 'dispel' the 'misconception' held by the world. only time will tell how this kind of 'superficial' effort will manage to stave off the concern of the world.
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mnowsa: that kind of arguments become just redundant at some point, conrad. If i have read the post of u2kitty correctly, i can fairly and squarely conclude that the israeli state machinaries are getting desperate. In general, up until now, israel has demonstrated 'fark the world opinion' kind of mentality. But the post in concern shows that israel, as a state, probably is losing it big time, and hence the effort to 'dispel' the 'misconception' held by the world. only time will tell how this kind of 'superficial' effort will manage to stave off the concern of the world.
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Bertie Russell The Dupe!
Written two Hours before the Man Cropped out!
Most likely not even written by him!
The Guy ought to have stuck to his Mathematics!
Written two Hours before the Man Cropped out!
Most likely not even written by him!
The Guy ought to have stuck to his Mathematics!
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Israel has been planning an upping on the information/publicity front for some months now and it was in the news months ago that they were going to do so.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with it as it will be informing the disinterested, the ignorant, the haters etc about the situation as Israel's publicity machine is pants.
The flooding of illegals further on in the post - fair enough - as unfortunately Israel has stretched its resources to help these people and can only help so many, so that problem needs sorting in the way Israel sees fit.
But going back to the main point, I fully applaud Israel's new initiative and it is long long overdue. The public is about to be informed the truth, and about time too, so it is no wonder you anti-Jews are in a tizz-wizz.
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with it as it will be informing the disinterested, the ignorant, the haters etc about the situation as Israel's publicity machine is pants.
The flooding of illegals further on in the post - fair enough - as unfortunately Israel has stretched its resources to help these people and can only help so many, so that problem needs sorting in the way Israel sees fit.
But going back to the main point, I fully applaud Israel's new initiative and it is long long overdue. The public is about to be informed the truth, and about time too, so it is no wonder you anti-Jews are in a tizz-wizz.
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Yes it has been planned for some time now. It is called "The Israel projects 2009"
So now they have to retreat to offensive propaganda as the last desperate attempt to change the minds of the "persuadables" - not the informed...
They may shoot themselves in the foot, since every time Israel is mentioned from now on - many will think that this is just another propagandaact from all the "agents" being paid in US and EU. Their words will be even more questioned as they are at the moment.
The project is all about twisting the facts and make all actions seem decent and understandable. They are instructed in how to phrase their words in order to veil the nasty truth.
I wonder who is on the payroll?
So now they have to retreat to offensive propaganda as the last desperate attempt to change the minds of the "persuadables" - not the informed...
They may shoot themselves in the foot, since every time Israel is mentioned from now on - many will think that this is just another propagandaact from all the "agents" being paid in US and EU. Their words will be even more questioned as they are at the moment.
The project is all about twisting the facts and make all actions seem decent and understandable. They are instructed in how to phrase their words in order to veil the nasty truth.
I wonder who is on the payroll?
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The manual’s numerous messages are aimed at the mass of “persuadables”, primarily in America but also in the UK. The strategy from the start is to isolate democratically-elected Hamas and to rob the resistance movement and the Palestinian population of their human rights....
§ “Clearly differentiate between the Palestinian people and Hamas. There is an
immediate and clear distinction between the empathy Americans feel for the Palestinians
and the scorn they direct at Palestinian leadership. Hamas is a terrorist organization –
Americans get that already. But if it sounds like you are attacking the Palestinian people
(even though they elected Hamas) rather than their leadership, you will lose public
support. Right now, many Americans sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, and
that sympathy will increase if you fail to differentiate the people from their leaders.”
The plight of the Palestinians under Israel’s heel was an international concern long before Hamas appeared on the scene.
But this scorning of leaders is familiar ground. We scorned Bush and Blair and had to differentiate between them and their respective peoples. We now have to do the same with Barack Obama and Gordon Brown. We are tired of having to make that same differentiation between the Israeli people and the dreadful leaders they produce.
§ "ISRAEL’S RIGHT TO DEFENSIBLE BORDERS: With more than three years of
violent history since Israel’s agreement to withdraw from Gaza and portions of the West Bank, Americans have had time to take stock of the situation and form opinions.
The big picture: they believe that Hamas’ leadership of Gaza has made Israel and the
region less safe, while some are more receptive to what they perceive as a moderate approach in the West Bank by Mahmoud Abbas. Based on these experiences, they are willing to grant Israel more leeway in resisting calls to give more land for more peace."
Here we clearly see the motive for demonising Hamas....Israel wants more leeway to continue its land-grabs and other criminal activities.
§ “If… If… If…Then.”: Put the burden on Hamas to make the first move for peace by
using If’s (and don’t forget to finish with a hard then to show Israel is a willing peace
partner). “If Hamas reforms… If Hamas recognize our right to exist… If Hamas
renounces terrorism… If Hamas supports international peace agreements… then we are
willing to make peace today.”
How daft can you get? Substitute Israel for Hamas.
Words that work
The manual sets out numerous examples of “words that work” - supposedly.
§ “Clearly differentiate between the Palestinian people and Hamas. There is an
immediate and clear distinction between the empathy Americans feel for the Palestinians
and the scorn they direct at Palestinian leadership. Hamas is a terrorist organization –
Americans get that already. But if it sounds like you are attacking the Palestinian people
(even though they elected Hamas) rather than their leadership, you will lose public
support. Right now, many Americans sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, and
that sympathy will increase if you fail to differentiate the people from their leaders.”
The plight of the Palestinians under Israel’s heel was an international concern long before Hamas appeared on the scene.
But this scorning of leaders is familiar ground. We scorned Bush and Blair and had to differentiate between them and their respective peoples. We now have to do the same with Barack Obama and Gordon Brown. We are tired of having to make that same differentiation between the Israeli people and the dreadful leaders they produce.
§ "ISRAEL’S RIGHT TO DEFENSIBLE BORDERS: With more than three years of
violent history since Israel’s agreement to withdraw from Gaza and portions of the West Bank, Americans have had time to take stock of the situation and form opinions.
The big picture: they believe that Hamas’ leadership of Gaza has made Israel and the
region less safe, while some are more receptive to what they perceive as a moderate approach in the West Bank by Mahmoud Abbas. Based on these experiences, they are willing to grant Israel more leeway in resisting calls to give more land for more peace."
Here we clearly see the motive for demonising Hamas....Israel wants more leeway to continue its land-grabs and other criminal activities.
§ “If… If… If…Then.”: Put the burden on Hamas to make the first move for peace by
using If’s (and don’t forget to finish with a hard then to show Israel is a willing peace
partner). “If Hamas reforms… If Hamas recognize our right to exist… If Hamas
renounces terrorism… If Hamas supports international peace agreements… then we are
willing to make peace today.”
How daft can you get? Substitute Israel for Hamas.
Words that work
The manual sets out numerous examples of “words that work” - supposedly.
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And heres a link to the fantastic manual of manipulation:
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Don't fret Kitty. I am sure Israel is on a winning streak now with regards to its publicity. In fact I am pleased and proud of them. May I wish you a very good evening!
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I`m not fretting Wow - just amazed to see the desperate acts coming up.
Maybe we should invite the Teapartiers to this thread?
Á nice evening for you too
Maybe we should invite the Teapartiers to this thread?
Á nice evening for you too
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u2Kitty: I`m not fretting Wow - just amazed to see the desperate acts coming up.
Not "desperate acts" Kitty. More like sensible acts, and way way overdue.
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Good idea the PR offensive,by the Israelis,our esteemed pro Israelis,Conrad and Al,having the opportunity to be in Israel's payroll.
u2Kitty: Israel recruits citizen advocates in Europe'Allies and friends' will promote government policy to press and public meetings as part of fresh PR drive
Share754 Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem guardian.co.uk, Sunday 28 November 2010 15.19 GMT Article history
Israel has instructed its embassies in 10 European countries, including the UK, each to recruit 1,000 members of the public to act as advocates for its policies in a new public relations offensive.
A cable from the foreign affairs ministry was sent to embassies last week, with instructions from Avigdor Lieberman, the controversial and extreme right-wing foreign minister, to adopt a range of measures aimed at improving Israel's standing in Europe.
The most unusual was the order to identify up to 1,000 people by mid-January to act as "allies" to Israel. One source described them as "friends who are willing not just to receive messages but to actively promote these messages". These individuals – likely to be drawn from Jewish or Christian activists, academics, journalists and students – will be briefed regularly by Israeli officials and encouraged to speak up for Israel at public meetings or write letters or articles for the press.
Five European capitals have also been identified for a more conventional PR push. Israeli embassies in London, Paris, Berlin, Madrid and Rome will receive funds to hire professional PR firms and lobbyists.
PR companies will be asked to focus on political messages, such as: Israel's position on talks with the Palestinians; subjects which can help "brand" Israel, such as tourism and technology; and regional issues to which Israel wishes to draw attention, such as human rights in Iran or Arab countries.
The foreign affairs ministry also suggested that embassies across Europe organise monthly high-profile public events to promote Israel and its government's policies, and visits to Israel for influential individuals. Lieberman is planning to meet ambassadors to European countries next month to push the new PR offensive.
An Israeli official refused to comment on the disclosure but said: "Obviously we are always looking for ways to improve our communications, there's nothing unusual in that," adding: "There is anxiety about the way Israel is perceived abroad, and there is particular worry about certain countries in western Europe."
Israel has previously launched drives to improve its image through hasbara – literally meaning explanation, although alternatively interpreted as public diplomacy, spin or propaganda. During its three-week war on Gaza, which began in December 2008, Israel launched a PR strategy through its national information directorate to co-ordinate key messages on a daily basis.
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Share754 Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem guardian.co.uk, Sunday 28 November 2010 15.19 GMT Article history
Israel has instructed its embassies in 10 European countries, including the UK, each to recruit 1,000 members of the public to act as advocates for its policies in a new public relations offensive.
A cable from the foreign affairs ministry was sent to embassies last week, with instructions from Avigdor Lieberman, the controversial and extreme right-wing foreign minister, to adopt a range of measures aimed at improving Israel's standing in Europe.
The most unusual was the order to identify up to 1,000 people by mid-January to act as "allies" to Israel. One source described them as "friends who are willing not just to receive messages but to actively promote these messages". These individuals – likely to be drawn from Jewish or Christian activists, academics, journalists and students – will be briefed regularly by Israeli officials and encouraged to speak up for Israel at public meetings or write letters or articles for the press.
Five European capitals have also been identified for a more conventional PR push. Israeli embassies in London, Paris, Berlin, Madrid and Rome will receive funds to hire professional PR firms and lobbyists.
PR companies will be asked to focus on political messages, such as: Israel's position on talks with the Palestinians; subjects which can help "brand" Israel, such as tourism and technology; and regional issues to which Israel wishes to draw attention, such as human rights in Iran or Arab countries.
The foreign affairs ministry also suggested that embassies across Europe organise monthly high-profile public events to promote Israel and its government's policies, and visits to Israel for influential individuals. Lieberman is planning to meet ambassadors to European countries next month to push the new PR offensive.
An Israeli official refused to comment on the disclosure but said: "Obviously we are always looking for ways to improve our communications, there's nothing unusual in that," adding: "There is anxiety about the way Israel is perceived abroad, and there is particular worry about certain countries in western Europe."
Israel has previously launched drives to improve its image through hasbara – literally meaning explanation, although alternatively interpreted as public diplomacy, spin or propaganda. During its three-week war on Gaza, which began in December 2008, Israel launched a PR strategy through its national information directorate to co-ordinate key messages on a daily basis.
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chris27292729: Good idea the PR offensive,by the Israelis,our esteemed pro Israelis,Conrad and Al,having the opportunity to be in Israel's payroll.
About time,since you all are already on the Payroll for Hamas Long ago!------ This thread is Archived ------
Hi Chris & Conrad
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u2Kitty: I`m not fretting Wow - just amazed to see the desperate acts coming up.
Maybe we should invite the Teapartiers to this thread?
Á nice evening for you too
Maybe we should invite the Teapartiers to this thread?
Á nice evening for you too
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Conrad73: About time,since you all are already on the Payroll for Hamas Long ago!
I wanna play for both .....Just in case.....and I could use the money.....
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u2Kitty: I`m not fretting Wow - just amazed to see the desperate acts coming up.
Maybe we should invite the Teapartiers to this thread?
Á nice evening for you too
Teaparty my Patoot!Maybe we should invite the Teapartiers to this thread?
Á nice evening for you too
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Hi you there,cold up there??? People swimming down here.
u2Kitty: Hi Chris & Conrad
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