Israel: War = Expansion (846)
patmac: In any conflict in any war both sides in the conflict will make "mistakes,errors of judgement" and both at any given point will be the aggressor.
F A C T ..
But S B Your continual opening threads against one side and supporting one side negates any argument you have on the subject.
Your obvious bias makes any claim rightly or wrongly a joke in the eyes of any neutral observer.
I have always have had an open mind to this ongoing problem and like the rest of the world can see fault on both sides, I have not posted on your Anti Israeli threads for a while and thought you may have actually used your time recently to try to get information from both sides of the argument.
Sadly I was wrong.
Mind you even if you read a thousand books you are so set in your mind that even handedness is not in your remit.
I feel sad that an otherwise intelligent man is so biased and bigoted
F A C T ..
But S B Your continual opening threads against one side and supporting one side negates any argument you have on the subject.
Your obvious bias makes any claim rightly or wrongly a joke in the eyes of any neutral observer.
I have always have had an open mind to this ongoing problem and like the rest of the world can see fault on both sides, I have not posted on your Anti Israeli threads for a while and thought you may have actually used your time recently to try to get information from both sides of the argument.
Sadly I was wrong.
Mind you even if you read a thousand books you are so set in your mind that even handedness is not in your remit.
I feel sad that an otherwise intelligent man is so biased and bigoted
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somone4u: s, i agreed with you.
Another fact is that those unfriendly anti-social Jews are not liked in the west because of their HISTORICALY anti social attitude that is why the west is dumping them into the Arab land far from the west. the question which I would like anyone who can to answer is: why after WWII the Jews were not given part of Germany or Europe but part of Palestine?
Another fact is that those unfriendly anti-social Jews are not liked in the west because of their HISTORICALY anti social attitude that is why the west is dumping them into the Arab land far from the west. the question which I would like anyone who can to answer is: why after WWII the Jews were not given part of Germany or Europe but part of Palestine?
The answer lies in truth rather than the idiocy you surmise is reality;
Jews never had any historical roots in Germany but did in British Mandated Palestine where they go back thousands of years.
Hope this helps and sets you on the right track.
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Conrad73: So actually,you love Jews?
Is that what you say?
I have no personal problem with someone or peopled called themselves Jews or whatever name they choose. And here I challenge you to think as you always claim to be knowing me and my views here. I have problem with wrong doers, robbers killers, liars oppressors etc, and if that comes to my knowledge i don’t care who he or she, i talk about it as loud as i can. Here i would like to tell you that my best friend all of the years “he is Jew by birth”. he is full time Jew.Is that what you say?
And yet i lived with him for years, i did so much things with him both good & bad things. I lived with him and we never had border on what you can and cannot enter in our lives and if one of us travel the entire responsibilities remind in the hands of the one who left behind.
I have no problem with Jew; they are human as i do but those killers in Palestine i don’t talk about it because they are Jews but because they do wrong. If you don’t understand that then it’s you who have problem not me.
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patmac: In any conflict in any war both sides in the conflict will make "mistakes,errors of judgement" and both at any given point will be the aggressor.
F A C T ..
But S B Your continual opening threads against one side and supporting one side negates any argument you have on the subject.
Your obvious bias makes any claim rightly or wrongly a joke in the eyes of any neutral observer.
I have always have had an open mind to this ongoing problem and like the rest of the world can see fault on both sides, I have not posted on your Anti Israeli threads for a while and thought you may have actually used your time recently to try to get information from both sides of the argument.
Sadly I was wrong.
Mind you even if you read a thousand books you are so set in your mind that even handedness is not in your remit.
I feel sad that an otherwise intelligent man is so biased and bigoted
Why traditionally everyone talked about the facts and bad things of Israel he or she is signing the agreement for his name to be tarnish, his life been turn upside-down? And his/her reputation has to be totally destroyed? F A C T ..
But S B Your continual opening threads against one side and supporting one side negates any argument you have on the subject.
Your obvious bias makes any claim rightly or wrongly a joke in the eyes of any neutral observer.
I have always have had an open mind to this ongoing problem and like the rest of the world can see fault on both sides, I have not posted on your Anti Israeli threads for a while and thought you may have actually used your time recently to try to get information from both sides of the argument.
Sadly I was wrong.
Mind you even if you read a thousand books you are so set in your mind that even handedness is not in your remit.
I feel sad that an otherwise intelligent man is so biased and bigoted
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somone4u: I have no personal problem with someone or peopled called themselves Jews or whatever name they choose. And here I challenge you to think as you always claim to be knowing me and my views here. I have problem with wrong doers, robbers killers, liars oppressors etc, and if that comes to my knowledge i don’t care who he or she, i talk about it as loud as i can. Here i would like to tell you that my best friend all of the years “he is Jew by birth”. he is full time Jew.
And yet i lived with him for years, i did so much things with him both good & bad things. I lived with him and we never had border on what you can and cannot enter in our lives and if one of us travel the entire responsibilities remind in the hands of the one who left behind.
I have no problem with Jew; they are human as i do but those killers in Palestine i don’t talk about it because they are Jews but because they do wrong. If you don’t understand that then it’s you who have problem not me.
With Killers in Palestine you mean of Course the Hamas and other sundry Islamist Thugs?And yet i lived with him for years, i did so much things with him both good & bad things. I lived with him and we never had border on what you can and cannot enter in our lives and if one of us travel the entire responsibilities remind in the hands of the one who left behind.
I have no problem with Jew; they are human as i do but those killers in Palestine i don’t talk about it because they are Jews but because they do wrong. If you don’t understand that then it’s you who have problem not me.
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somone4u: Why traditionally everyone talked about the facts and bad things of Israel he or she is signing the agreement for his name to be tarnish, his life been turn upside-down? And his/her reputation has to be totally destroyed?
You just confirmed why in your first sentence
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Well , we're all here! And guess what! We still have a stalemate in the Peace talks! And what else is new!
Egypt has asked that the international community initiate a framework of ideas and "issues" by which to "force" a settlement on to Israel, who has been accused of "dragging out" the "end game" of the Peace Process. By putting no viable proposal on the "table" Israel is trying to structure the "Peace Process" into a "lose lose" proposal for the Palestinians.
Egypt has asked that the international community initiate a framework of ideas and "issues" by which to "force" a settlement on to Israel, who has been accused of "dragging out" the "end game" of the Peace Process. By putting no viable proposal on the "table" Israel is trying to structure the "Peace Process" into a "lose lose" proposal for the Palestinians.
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Conrad73: So enlighten us Dumbasses then!
ive already told you conrad of what went on in south lebanon in my earlier posts do i have to repeat myself ?????
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SilverBirch: Well , we're all here! And guess what! We still have a stalemate in the Peace talks! And what else is new!
Egypt has asked that the international community initiate a framework of ideas and "issues" by which to "force" a settlement on to Israel, who has been accused of "dragging out" the "end game" of the Peace Process. By putting no viable proposal on the "table" Israel is trying to structure the "Peace Process" into a "lose lose" proposal for the Palestinians.
Who WE?Egypt has asked that the international community initiate a framework of ideas and "issues" by which to "force" a settlement on to Israel, who has been accused of "dragging out" the "end game" of the Peace Process. By putting no viable proposal on the "table" Israel is trying to structure the "Peace Process" into a "lose lose" proposal for the Palestinians.
You're obsessed,Mister,and NOT because of the Palestinian's Lot!
Pat's Assessment was right on the Button!
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patmac: In any conflict in any war both sides in the conflict will make "mistakes,errors of judgement" and both at any given point will be the aggressor.
F A C T ..
But S B Your continual opening threads against one side and supporting one side negates any argument you have on the subject.
Your obvious bias makes any claim rightly or wrongly a joke in the eyes of any neutral observer.
I have always have had an open mind to this ongoing problem and like the rest of the world can see fault on both sides, I have not posted on your Anti Israeli threads for a while and thought you may have actually used your time recently to try to get information from both sides of the argument.
Sadly I was wrong.
Mind you even if you read a thousand books you are so set in your mind that even handedness is not in your remit.
I feel sad that an otherwise intelligent man is so biased and bigoted
F A C T ..
But S B Your continual opening threads against one side and supporting one side negates any argument you have on the subject.
Your obvious bias makes any claim rightly or wrongly a joke in the eyes of any neutral observer.
I have always have had an open mind to this ongoing problem and like the rest of the world can see fault on both sides, I have not posted on your Anti Israeli threads for a while and thought you may have actually used your time recently to try to get information from both sides of the argument.
Sadly I was wrong.
Mind you even if you read a thousand books you are so set in your mind that even handedness is not in your remit.
I feel sad that an otherwise intelligent man is so biased and bigoted
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Only 219 more posts,and SB can start another one!
What will it be?
As if I needed to ask!
What will it be?
As if I needed to ask!
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Silverbirch: All who want to see an end to bloodshed in the Middle East must ensure that any settlement does not contain the seeds of future conflict.
I agree. All Arabs and particularly Palestinians must renounce their policy of destroying Israel as they had had since 1947 and move towards peaceful existence rather than war.
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SilverBirch: Well , we're all here!
No we are not Silverbunny. Adrummer, Bunny and Sugarbirch are missing.
Seen those lightweights around lately? If not, perhaps you might want to consult something akin to a book as there has been an Arab implemented war against Israel since 1948 so, without their attempts to actually and seriously implement a peace with Israel regardless of Israel's response, they are still the aggressors.
So, putting your collective heads together perhaps you can tell us all what terms the Palestinians have put forth that pass for something they would promise not to continue making war on Israel?
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Meanwhile our Old Friend Mickey is badmouthing this Site all over the WWW!
Case of Sour Grapes,me thinks!
Case of Sour Grapes,me thinks!
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Conrad73: Only 219 more posts,and SB can start another one!
What will it be? As if I needed to ask!
I see S B was selective again or did he not see my point ???? Nah he should have done surely, it was posted enough times.What will it be? As if I needed to ask!
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patmac: I see S B was selective again or did he not see my point ???? Nah he should have done surely, it was posted enough times.
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Majority of PA Arabs See Two States as 'Temporary Solution’
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
A majority of Arabs in Judea, Samaria and Gaza favor two states only as a step towards an Arab state of Palestine, by the use of violence, if necessary, according to a new poll by the non- profit The Israel Project.
The results of the survey were released on Friday, hours before Palestinian Authority negotiator Saeb Erekat said that if Israel agrees to recognizing the Palestinian Authority as a new Arab country based on Israel’s size being shrunk to the indefensible 1949 Armistice Line borders, the PA then would relinquish all claims to “historic Palestine,” which he said includes all of Israel from the Dead Sea to the Mediterranean Seas.
The Israel Project poll of PA Arabs shows that 60 percent favor direct negotiations with Israel for “two states” of the Palestinian Authority and Israel, but it also reveals that two-thirds agree that “over time, Palestinian must work to get back all the land for a Palestinian state.”
Only 23 percent of the respondent agreed that “Israel has a permanent right to exist as a homeland for the Jewish people.”
The option of armed violence still is a high priority for a majority of PA Arabs, 58 percent preferring “armed struggle” over “engagement with Israel.” A majority of Arabs in both Gaza and Judea and Samaria favor violence, with a higher percentage in Gaza.
On the other hand, Arab opinion was somewhat more conciliatory when respondents were given the option that an agreement with Israel would be based on 1949-1967 Armistice lines, once referred to former Israel Ambassador to the United Nations Abba Eban as “Auschwitz borders.”
Most of the PA Arab would like to see an end to the naming of public places after terrorists, but only a tiny minority of 12 percent agree that official maps, documents and school textbooks should show the name ”Israel.”
As in previous polls, the popularity of Hamas has declined, even in Gaza, where the rival Fatah party would easily win if elections were held today.
In contrast to another recent poll that showed PA Arabs as having a favorable view of Iran, most of the respondents in the Israel Project poll had negative opinions on Iran and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
(IsraelNationalNews.com)
Yes there is a Hidden Agenda,and PA has it!
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
A majority of Arabs in Judea, Samaria and Gaza favor two states only as a step towards an Arab state of Palestine, by the use of violence, if necessary, according to a new poll by the non- profit The Israel Project.
The results of the survey were released on Friday, hours before Palestinian Authority negotiator Saeb Erekat said that if Israel agrees to recognizing the Palestinian Authority as a new Arab country based on Israel’s size being shrunk to the indefensible 1949 Armistice Line borders, the PA then would relinquish all claims to “historic Palestine,” which he said includes all of Israel from the Dead Sea to the Mediterranean Seas.
The Israel Project poll of PA Arabs shows that 60 percent favor direct negotiations with Israel for “two states” of the Palestinian Authority and Israel, but it also reveals that two-thirds agree that “over time, Palestinian must work to get back all the land for a Palestinian state.”
Only 23 percent of the respondent agreed that “Israel has a permanent right to exist as a homeland for the Jewish people.”
The option of armed violence still is a high priority for a majority of PA Arabs, 58 percent preferring “armed struggle” over “engagement with Israel.” A majority of Arabs in both Gaza and Judea and Samaria favor violence, with a higher percentage in Gaza.
On the other hand, Arab opinion was somewhat more conciliatory when respondents were given the option that an agreement with Israel would be based on 1949-1967 Armistice lines, once referred to former Israel Ambassador to the United Nations Abba Eban as “Auschwitz borders.”
Most of the PA Arab would like to see an end to the naming of public places after terrorists, but only a tiny minority of 12 percent agree that official maps, documents and school textbooks should show the name ”Israel.”
As in previous polls, the popularity of Hamas has declined, even in Gaza, where the rival Fatah party would easily win if elections were held today.
In contrast to another recent poll that showed PA Arabs as having a favorable view of Iran, most of the respondents in the Israel Project poll had negative opinions on Iran and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
(IsraelNationalNews.com)
Yes there is a Hidden Agenda,and PA has it!
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F A C T ..
But S B Your continual opening threads against one side and supporting one side negates any argument you have on the subject.
Your obvious bias makes any claim rightly or wrongly a joke in the eyes of any neutral observer.
I have always have had an open mind to this ongoing problem and like the rest of the world can see fault on both sides, I have not posted on your Anti Israeli threads for a while and thought you may have actually used your time recently to try to get information from both sides of the argument.
Sadly I was wrong.
Mind you even if you read a thousand books you are so set in your mind that even handedness is not in your remit.
I feel sad that an otherwise intelligent man is so biased and bigoted