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Dec 12, 2010 12:41 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Conrad73: Only when no one is watching!


Haha, just as well really as his cover will be blown.
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Dec 12, 2010 12:43 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Oh, those cruel nasty horrible Israeli's. Look what they did!!!

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Dec 12, 2010 1:02 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Wow_Factor: And your ranting the other day showed your true colours young man.
the man is countingand justing praying the thread to get full after he faild to get it BEEN removed. and wow factor you didn't show YOUR colour on the other day but every day you do that here? and we are reading your hatred views.
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Dec 12, 2010 1:04 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Conrad73: 135 more posts to go!

Let me make a small contribution to that ....grin
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Dec 12, 2010 1:07 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Wow_Factor: Oh, those cruel nasty horrible Israeli's. Look what they did!!!
HOW MUCH YOU BEEN HELPED FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR OVER 60 YEARS??? THROUGH OUT HISTRY, NO COUNTRY, PEOPLE OR NATION WHO ARE SO FEW AND YET RECIEVED SO MUCH FROM SO MANY FOR SO LONG LIKE HOW ISRAEL DID.
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Dec 12, 2010 1:14 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
somone4u: the man is countingand justing praying the thread to get full after he faild to get it BEEN removed. and wow factor you didn't show YOUR colour on the other day but every day you do that here? and we are reading your hatred views.


Sunshine, we couldn't care less if the thread is full, gets pulled etc. And tell me about my colour. I am pro-Israeli. Period. I do not have "hatred views" but I have views that show Israel is doing what she has to do in order to safeguard her position, and I do not lie in my posts.
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Dec 12, 2010 1:14 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Boban1: Let me make a small contribution to that ....
it is immensely appreciated!laugh
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Dec 12, 2010 1:15 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
somone4u: HOW MUCH YOU BEEN HELPED FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR OVER 60 YEARS??? THROUGH OUT HISTRY, NO COUNTRY, PEOPLE OR NATION WHO ARE SO FEW AND YET RECIEVED SO MUCH FROM SO MANY FOR SO LONG LIKE HOW ISRAEL DID.


And so do the Arabs. They receive aid, however they often prefer to not spend it as wisely as they should. While Israel progresses, the Arabs are regressing.
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Dec 12, 2010 1:16 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Conrad73: it is immensely appreciated!


What is immensely appreciated Conrad?
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Dec 12, 2010 1:17 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Conrad73: it is immensely appreciated!


What is immensely appreciated Conrad?
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Dec 12, 2010 1:17 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
OOps sorry about the double posting. ISP playing up.
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Dec 12, 2010 1:19 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor: What is immensely appreciated Conrad?
Boban's Contribution to the Thread!laugh
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Dec 12, 2010 1:20 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
u2Kitty: The manual’s numerous messages are aimed at the mass of “persuadables”, primarily in America but also in the UK. The strategy from the start is to isolate democratically-elected Hamas and to rob the resistance movement and the Palestinian population of their human rights....

§ “Clearly differentiate between the Palestinian people and Hamas. There is an
immediate and clear distinction between the empathy Americans feel for the Palestinians
and the scorn they direct at Palestinian leadership. Hamas is a terrorist organization –
Americans get that already. But if it sounds like you are attacking the Palestinian people
(even though they elected Hamas) rather than their leadership, you will lose public
support. Right now, many Americans sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, and
that sympathy will increase if you fail to differentiate the people from their leaders.”

The plight of the Palestinians under Israel’s heel was an international concern long before Hamas appeared on the scene.

But this scorning of leaders is familiar ground. We scorned Bush and Blair and had to differentiate between them and their respective peoples. We now have to do the same with Barack Obama and Gordon Brown. We are tired of having to make that same differentiation between the Israeli people and the dreadful leaders they produce.

§ "ISRAEL’S RIGHT TO DEFENSIBLE BORDERS: With more than three years of
violent history since Israel’s agreement to withdraw from Gaza and portions of the West Bank, Americans have had time to take stock of the situation and form opinions.
The big picture: they believe that Hamas’ leadership of Gaza has made Israel and the
region less safe, while some are more receptive to what they perceive as a moderate approach in the West Bank by Mahmoud Abbas. Based on these experiences, they are willing to grant Israel more leeway in resisting calls to give more land for more peace."

Here we clearly see the motive for demonising Hamas....Israel wants more leeway to continue its land-grabs and other criminal activities.

§ “If… If… If…Then.”: Put the burden on Hamas to make the first move for peace by
using If’s (and don’t forget to finish with a hard then to show Israel is a willing peace
partner). “If Hamas reforms… If Hamas recognize our right to exist… If Hamas
renounces terrorism… If Hamas supports international peace agreements… then we are
willing to make peace today.”

How daft can you get? Substitute Israel for Hamas.

Words that work

The manual sets out numerous examples of “words that work” - supposedly.
I just went pass this beautiful comment by the most beautiful lady and here I have to show my appreciation. Thank you so much u2kitty.handshake handshake handshake
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Dec 12, 2010 1:21 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Blow me down!wow uh oh
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Dec 12, 2010 1:21 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Conrad73: Boban's Contribution to the Thread!


Ah, doh silly me, I should have realised. Thanks Boban bouquet
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Dec 12, 2010 1:22 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
somone4u: I just went pass this beautiful comment by the most beautiful lady and here I have to show my appreciation. Thank you so much u2kitty.


Awww sweet!
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Dec 12, 2010 1:24 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Wow_Factor: And so do the Arabs. They receive aid, however they often prefer to not spend it as wisely as they should. While Israel progresses, the Arabs are regressing.
Which part of the world you living in and which news you read from madam? The Arabs receiving aid? From who? Didn’t you saw that even your queen went to the Arab to beg money the last few days days?
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Dec 12, 2010 1:25 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
somone4u: HOW MUCH YOU BEEN HELPED FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR OVER 60 YEARS??? THROUGH OUT HISTRY, NO COUNTRY, PEOPLE OR NATION WHO ARE SO FEW AND YET RECIEVED SO MUCH FROM SO MANY FOR SO LONG LIKE HOW ISRAEL DID.


Have a gander at this! So while aid received by Israel is for her security, defence and investment, have a look at where the Palestinian aid goes to.

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Dec 12, 2010 1:25 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
somone4u: Which part of the world you living in and which news you read from madam? The Arabs receiving aid? From who? Didn’t you saw that even your queen went to the Arab to beg money the last few days days?


I refer you to the clip above.
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Dec 12, 2010 1:29 PM CST Israel: War = Expansion
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Aid goes in on many trucks daily. It is common news someone4u. However it is because you don't want to believe the truth that you deny the truth.
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