Red Flags ( Archived) (659)

TrueBlue1986: That last made me laugh out loud. I think you know libertarians about as well as you know Ayn Rand (very, very passing familiarity). Libertarians, by and large, are about the least materialistic-oriented people you would ever meet. God, money-grubbing libertarians are about as rare as...well, female libertarians. You'd be vastly more likely, when encountering a libertarian, to hear a long philosophic analysis or discussion of some book on economics than find some rogue capitalist. And when you enter their usually very modest homes, you will probably find a large library of books, not a big fancy car or expensive stereo system.

Libertarians by and large are about ideas. Sure, in principle they support free markets, but are not likely at all to be hard-driven capitalists. There are some notable exceptions, but after having spent decades with these dudes, I think I can attest to the above with some degree of accuracy.quote]

You sound like a Left-Libertarian?

I'll counter your point on materialism by stating the fact that the impoverished are hardly ever Libertarian. This is because individualism is an inherent luxury - when you're poor you need the people around you more than ever, like our ancestors needed the tribe just to survive the daily struggle. If state welfare collapses tomorrow then who starves first, rich or poor?

Throughout history only the priviliged have wanted little or no government.

But then, the priviliged have often not considered themselves as such.

felixis99: well if there's two of them and u know who they are - grab 'em and let's get going

Uniquemom61: WAAAAY off topic

You all want to voice your opinions on your politic beliefs, start your own thread!!

Don't be rude!

montecito: I think Ambrose was joking when he wrote that but I apologize anyway. I had responded to what someone else wrote about objectivity and I guess I wasn't being objective.

Sorry..

Uniquemom61: I appreciate the joking it's just when some take it too far and it's not just my thread, it's many.

No worries, I wasn't mad just making aware of a common problem.

Ambrose2007: Heh - here I was pointing out the departure - meaning I'm implicitly acknowledging the divergence from the thread subject - and for that acknowledgment I become the target? Seems unjust somehow.

And I didn't start this topic, btw. I'm far more interested in the red flags subject, having lots of philosophic lists where I can discuss such things.

I prefer to discuss relationships on CS. But sometimes distractions occur. If you've been here awhile, you'd know that.