Did you even read what I wrote? Your post is hilarious. I did not say there was no crime. I said there is no need for the average person to carry a weapon for self protection, especially not a gun. I did not say there is not crime or that we don't need locks or alarms or cameras monitoring public places. In fact, it is prudence in your behavior that makes it unnecesssary to carry a weapon, as well as depending on the police force and law enforcement. Maybe in central Croatia you need a gun? Don't know. But I've been in all of Western Europe, parts of Eastern Europe, North America, Asia, Asia Minor, and North Africa and have not ever needed to carry a weapon for self protection.
I've also lived in the Middle East. Never needed or felt the need for a gun for self protection. Only people who are paranoid and who are delusional and watch too much televison and 'action' movies think they need a gun for personal protection.
CHOLENA: OP, IT ISN'T THE STATES THAT ARE AGAINST GUN LAWS, IT IS CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THOSE STATES! You have complete tunnel vision.
Statistics from the past and currently all the polls PROVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WANT STRICTER GUN CONTROL LAWS.
You are living in your own fantasy world.
I don't support stricter gun laws, I want stricter sentences for CRIMINALS, and I want the prison systems here to be ugly. Ugly I mean as in you don't want to ever go back in. Take a look at where all the mass shootings take place.. in a GUN FREE ZONE. Who does the killing a PSYCHO with a motive. All these attacks were planned out. There should be a law here, if you don't like guns, you are required to post in your front window a sign that says, Homeowner doesn't believe in guns. how many people would do that? Would you?
CHOLENA: I've also lived in the Middle East. Never needed or felt the need for a gun for self protection. Only people who are paranoid and who are delusional and watch too much televison and 'action' movies think they need a gun for personal protection.
Maybe this statistics are not accurate ,but they ain`t far from the real situation
Jan 19, 2013 2:38 AM CST 47 States Revolt Against Obama Gun Laws
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 posts
Boban1: Hermann Goering “Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictatorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”My point here is ,Its not that difficult to manipulate the masses The need for self protection is real ,thats reality, thats the world we`re living it
Maybe that is your idea of living,but it's not mine, and I guess there are many people in the World who don't want to live in a world of fear.
To kill another human being is murder,whether in self defence or otherwise.
We have a lot of ongoing problems in our "tiny island" as someone in the Forums is fond of pointing out,but thank God we are not paranoid to the point of obsessing about everyone being armed .j.m.o.
MICKEYMOST: Maybe that is your idea of living,but it's not mine, and I guess there are many people in the World who don't want to live in a world of fear.
To kill another human being is murder,whether in self defence or otherwise.
We have a lot of ongoing problems in our "tiny island" as someone in the Forums is fond of pointing out,but thank God we are not paranoid to the point of obsessing about everyone being armed .j.m.o.
No one is twisting your arm to buy or carry a weapon . As the matter of fact, I don`t carry any weapon, but I do own a registered pistol which I keep at home, Cant remember when I took it the last time in my hand to clean it,not to mention to shoot it , so much about being paranoid... As for killing another human being in self defense or otherwise ,guess what we do when we`re sent overboard to " protect peace" and serve our country ( Making some fat rat richer) ... Now how about banning public transportation , as they also kill people oh and whats your opinion on martial Arts???
Jan 19, 2013 3:03 AM CST 47 States Revolt Against Obama Gun Laws
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 posts
Boban1: No one is twisting your arm to buy or carry a weapon . As the matter of fact, I don`t carry any weapon, but I do own a registered pistol which I keep at home, Cant remember when I took it the last time in my hand to clean it,not to mention to shoot it , so much about being paranoid... As for killing another human being in self defense or otherwise ,guess what we do when we`re sent overboard to " protect peace" and serve our country ( Making some fat rat richer) ... Now how about banning public transportation , as they also kill people oh and whats your opinion on martial Arts???
I hate any kind of violence ,war included.
As for the play on words ,this thread is about "guns" and basically being allowed to own them, and keep them in the home,not other killing machines. Or have I misinterpreted the O.P.
MICKEYMOST: Maybe that is your idea of living,but it's not mine, and I guess there are many people in the World who don't want to live in a world of fear.
To kill another human being is murder,whether in self defence or otherwise.
We have a lot of ongoing problems in our "tiny island" as someone in the Forums is fond of pointing out,but thank God we are not paranoid to the point of obsessing about everyone being armed .j.m.o.
wow, I guess that you have no self worth. Sorry, but in self defense, the criminal looses. I don't call it killing in self defense, I call it Crime Prevention.
Smith County (Texas) Sheriff Larry Smith says he will not enforce an unconstitutional law that takes away firearms from law abiding citizens in Smith County:
Fresno County (California) Sheriff Margaret Mims says she will not enforce any gun control that she sees as unconstitutional, and won't infringe upon the right to bear arms:
Jan 19, 2013 3:18 AM CST 47 States Revolt Against Obama Gun Laws
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 posts
Oregongold: wow, I guess that you have no self worth. Sorry, but in self defense, the criminal looses. I don't call it killing in self defense, I call it Crime Prevention.
What gives you that idea!
With 3 kids to bring up and protect. Wow
Just because I don't happen to agree with having guns in my home doesn't make me a soft touch.
As I said once before in another thread "Your country, your laws,your problem"
All I did was cast an opinion on how I personally felt as a parent.
Jan 19, 2013 3:20 AM CST 47 States Revolt Against Obama Gun Laws
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 posts
Conrad73: Here are the recent SHERIFF'S LETTERS on gun control laws: Sheriff Cannon says he will ignore any gun control measures he deems unconstitutional
Smith County (Texas) Sheriff Larry Smith says he will not enforce an unconstitutional law that takes away firearms from law abiding citizens in Smith County:
Fresno County (California) Sheriff Margaret Mims says she will not enforce any gun control that she sees as unconstitutional, and won't infringe upon the right to bear arms:
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
MICKEYMOST: What gives you that idea!
With 3 kids to bring up and protect. Wow
Just because I don't happen to agree with having guns in my home doesn't make me a soft touch.
As I said once before in another thread "Your country, your laws,your problem"
All I did was cast an opinion on how I personally felt as a parent.
Don't you think it's about time the Americans had their own forum. This is an international forum and many people have left because they are fed up with the American obsession with killing and guns. It's not our problem. and most people couldn't care less whether you have guns or not
tomcatwarne: Don't you think it's about time the Americans had their own forum. This is an international forum and many people have left because they are fed up with the American obsession with killing and guns. It's not our problem. and most people couldn't care less whether you have guns or not
Funny thing is,though,that most of those Threads are created by others than Americans!
Conrad73: Here are the recent SHERIFF'S LETTERS on gun control laws: Sheriff Cannon says he will ignore any gun control measures he deems unconstitutional
Smith County (Texas) Sheriff Larry Smith says he will not enforce an unconstitutional law that takes away firearms from law abiding citizens in Smith County:
Fresno County (California) Sheriff Margaret Mims says she will not enforce any gun control that she sees as unconstitutional, and won't infringe upon the right to bear arms:
These sheriffs live in rural, conservative, pro gun areas. They do not represent the majority of Americans. If a sheriff in a county that does not support gun control said he did, he'd be voted out of office, and visa versa.
These examples mean little, very little. They only show what the extremist minority think. If gun control laws were put to a national vote, the majority, who are for more gun control, would out vote the minority who do not want any restrictions put on gun ownership.
Oregongold: I don't support stricter gun laws, I want stricter sentences for CRIMINALS, and I want the prison systems here to be ugly. Ugly I mean as in you don't want to ever go back in. Take a look at where all the mass shootings take place.. in a GUN FREE ZONE. Who does the killing a PSYCHO with a motive. All these attacks were planned out. There should be a law here, if you don't like guns, you are required to post in your front window a sign that says, Homeowner doesn't believe in guns. how many people would do that? Would you?
Americas prisons are already over populated. People who commit mass murders already spend their lives in prison or are executed. There are mentally ill people out there all over the place who can get a hold of a gun and kill dozens of people in moments. If they couldn't get a gun, they couldnt' do it. The problem is the access to guns.
Jan 19, 2013 4:13 AM CST 47 States Revolt Against Obama Gun Laws
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
MICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 posts
tomcatwarne: Don't you think it's about time the Americans had their own forum. This is an international forum and many people have left because they are fed up with the American obsession with killing and guns. It's not our problem. and most people couldn't care less whether you have guns or not
They already have!!!!
Thing is if you come into an International Forum and ask a question,you should accept that people's views will vary. That's why the Forums are so diverse.
I get fed up with Americans bleating on about the UK,but if you think about it, although it's a massive country ,they can't even agree between States. That to me speaks volumes.j.m.o.
CHOLENA: Americas prisons are already over populated. People who commit mass murders already spend their lives in prison or are executed. There are mentally ill people out there all over the place who can get a hold of a gun and kill dozens of people in moments. If they couldn't get a gun, they couldnt' do it. The problem is the access to guns.
so,you think they would all miraculously stop murdering if it weren't for Firearms? How about Rwanda,for instance?
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Did you even read what I wrote? Your post is hilarious. I did not say there was no crime. I said there is no need for the average person to carry a weapon for self protection, especially not a gun. I did not say there is not crime or that we don't need locks or alarms or cameras monitoring public places. In fact, it is prudence in your behavior that makes it unnecesssary to carry a weapon, as well as depending on the police force and law enforcement. Maybe in central Croatia you need a gun? Don't know. But I've been in all of Western Europe, parts of Eastern Europe, North America, Asia, Asia Minor, and North Africa and have not ever needed to carry a weapon for self protection.