Bye bye Greece ( Archived) (88)

Jul 6, 2015 7:50 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Does Greece even have any Dracma's printed up? Outside of tourism what resources does Greece have to generate revenue? Oil? Agriculture? Manufacturing?
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Jul 6, 2015 8:14 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Im from iran and i love grecce and greek .viva grekk they can do if want .only hope they have happy life and wish can visit there soon
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Jul 6, 2015 8:46 AM CST Bye bye Greece
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
sagittarius_0101: Im from iran and i love grecce and greek .viva grekk they can do if want .only hope they have happy life and wish can visit there soon



Yes Greece is a beautiful country and Greeks are resiliant if not sometimes too stuburn for their own good but having said that I think they will stand united and strong,

They find a way,,loved Athens hope to visit again sometime,

wine .

head banger
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Jul 6, 2015 10:11 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
ooby_dooby: Does Greece even have any Dracma's printed up? Outside of tourism what resources does Greece have to generate revenue? Oil? Agriculture? Manufacturing?


Authoritarianism. The Greeks have just voted for their own starvation which show A) They're unfit to vote, and B) Voting is unfit for them. A people cannot be reality and financially illiterate to this extent and still expect to rule themselves.
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Jul 6, 2015 10:16 AM CST Bye bye Greece
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
You talking crap.

barf barf barf barf
Obstinance_Works: Authoritarianism. The Greeks have just voted for their own starvation which show A) They're unfit to vote, and B) Voting is unfit for them. A people cannot be reality and financially illiterate to this extent and still expect to rule themselves.
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Jul 6, 2015 10:19 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
chris27292729: You talking crap.


EU technocracy or homegrown dictator - one of these is your future.
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Jul 6, 2015 10:29 AM CST Bye bye Greece
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
The intellectually self appointed Pythia (google the word)has spoken,
and dicided the future of the nation.-
barf barf barf
thumbs down thumbs down thumbs down
Obstinance_Works: EU technocracy or homegrown dictator - one of these is your future.
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Jul 6, 2015 10:36 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
chris27292729: The intellectually self appointed Pythia (google the word)has spoken,
and dicided the future of the nation.-


You've decided your own future. Maybe you won't get a homegrown dictator, maybe this is too much for you, and you'll simply import a dictator for a quick dime(Putin)considering you're a nation of imports and quick dimes. A Metaxas would be too much for you.
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Jul 6, 2015 10:47 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: You've decided your own future. Maybe you won't get a homegrown dictator, maybe this is too much for you, and you'll simply import a dictator for a quick dime(Putin)considering you're a nation of imports and quick dimes. A Metaxas would be too much for you.


Or a Chinese-led technocracy. Let's see how much welfare state the land of a billion peasants allows Greece to keep. EU or Chinese technocracy, homegrown or Russian dictator. Any of these are more likely than anything else.
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Jul 6, 2015 10:57 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Or a Chinese-led technocracy. Let's see how much welfare state the land of a billion peasants allows Greece to keep. EU or Chinese technocracy, homegrown or Russian dictator. Any of these are more likely than anything else.


Frankly speaking, I do not see any difference between the EU technocrats with Merkel in the lead and the two other choices you mention.
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Jul 6, 2015 11:05 AM CST Bye bye Greece
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
It seems your ministry of Finance,have missed out,not emplying such
an expert in Global Finance like you.
By the way Metaxa is outdated.-
Scotch and Vodka is our popular drink.-
Still talking crap.
barf barf barf
doh doh doh doh
Obstinance_Works: You've decided your own future. Maybe you won't get a homegrown dictator, maybe this is too much for you, and you'll simply import a dictator for a quick dime(Putin)considering you're a nation of imports and quick dimes. A Metaxas would be too much for you.
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Jul 6, 2015 11:07 AM CST Bye bye Greece
Condor009
Condor009Condor009Victoria, British Columbia Canada200 Posts
ooby_dooby: Does Greece even have any Dracma's printed up? Outside of tourism what resources does Greece have to generate revenue? Oil? Agriculture? Manufacturing?


Their biggest market is in the sale of their own antiquities, but sadly it is all on the ‘black markets’ of the world. Those alone would be equal to the country’s entire GNP but of no benefit to the Greek people. But then again, they could start paying their income taxes which according to some studies have shown most haven’t for years…the one instance in which all are helped by everyone paying what they should…not by cutting pensions to the point of people not having enough to afford groceries…I thought we Europeans had had enough of that to ever make anyone suffer through that ever again...
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Jul 6, 2015 11:07 AM CST Bye bye Greece
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
Just hope We in Ireland have a fixed rate of interest paying back our loan that should never have been thanks to the central bank and big money lenders,alot of whom still living it up abroad,
thumbs down .
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Jul 6, 2015 11:09 AM CST Bye bye Greece
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: Just hope We in Ireland have a fixed rate of interest paying back our loan that should never have been thanks to the central bank and big money lenders,alot of whom still living it up abroad,
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Maybe some of them have villas in Corfu and Crete ,wouldn't be suprised,


boxing
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Jul 6, 2015 11:18 AM CST Bye bye Greece
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
chris27292729: It seems your ministry of Finance,have missed out,not emplying such
an expert in Global Finance like you.
By the way Metaxa is outdated.-
Scotch and Vodka is our popular drink.-
Still talking crap.


Your country was very prosperous before getting sucked into the euro
what I am seein on this end are central banks losing control, this would be good would it not? suffer now and hope to prosper in the near future instead of subservience under the thumb of the IMF and banks with their mafia tactics?

please clue me in
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Jul 6, 2015 1:26 PM CST Bye bye Greece
the greeks bailed out germany in 1953 after the war
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Jul 6, 2015 1:36 PM CST Bye bye Greece
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
Nidifugous: That is such nonsense. The money came from the EU, which means that not only Germany lost the money (predictably), but also the other EU countries who didn't get aid because of the Greek bailout. Spain also got money and so did Portugal and they're able to fix the problems slowly, but they're doing it.

I have nothing against the Greeks, but they should not have lied about their financial condition and the EU should have checked before they put Greece in to the union. I also think that they should have left the monetary union a long time ago. I think that if they leave the monetary union now, the Drachma should will go the way of the Turkish Lira.

If anybody got screwed by all of this, it's the other EU member states and the German tax payers. You cannot have a generous pension and social system and not produce the income or exempt your rich people from paying into the system. I find your comment totally baseless because the German taxpayers didn't line their pockets. What an idiotic thing to say.
I dont know, I dont usually agree with cris, but he makes a good point. the IMF is a pain in the butt, just look what the global banks did to us in dec bribing congress to sign on the US taxpayer over 300 trillion in derivative gmbling debt insurance with cromnibus, we also have bailed out euro several times in the past and look at the bribes coming from the big laundromat banks to pass obozotrade, over 5 million to boehner over 200 million in total bribes to others, my opinion is greece was politically strong armed into the euro from the git go, same thing happened to argentina many moons ago.

am hoping chis will give us the scoop since he lives there.
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Jul 6, 2015 1:41 PM CST Bye bye Greece
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
ooby_dooby: Does Greece even have any Dracma's printed up? Outside of tourism what resources does Greece have to generate revenue? Oil? Agriculture? Manufacturing?



Greece has enough resources...gold especially, no need to worry about them...
It's scary when you print money that cost less than the paper they are printed on...wine
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Jul 6, 2015 1:51 PM CST Bye bye Greece
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
If I can choose dictator, I prefer the homegrown. No need so many dictators, since removing the current ones is an utopy.
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Jul 6, 2015 3:00 PM CST Bye bye Greece
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
crayons: I dont know, I dont usually agree with cris, but he makes a good point. the IMF is a pain in the butt, just look what the global banks did to us in dec bribing congress to sign on the US taxpayer over 300 trillion in derivative gmbling debt insurance with cromnibus, we also have bailed out euro several times in the past and look at the bribes coming from the big laundromat banks to pass obozotrade, over 5 million to boehner over 200 million in total bribes to others, my opinion is greece was politically strong armed into the euro from the git go, same thing happened to argentina many moons ago.

am hoping chis will give us the scoop since he lives there.


Greece was not strongarmed into the Euro. It was a political decision and the country borrowed too much money at low interest rates without having the ability to pay it back. They borrowed billions to build the olympic stadium which now serves no purpose. That's just one example sort of like Alaska's bridge to nowhere or the Mexican border wall where money was thrown out the window. Greece's politicians have a lot to answer for. So in order to divert public anger away from their own mismanagement of the money, they went and blamed the Germans. Everyone knows this. Even the most recent proposal by the new president shields their own rich. Everyone knows this as well, but it's just so much easier to blame someone else. It happens all the time.
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