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May 10, 2016 6:49 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
kaetchenvonhn
kaetchenvonhnkaetchenvonhnNeckarsulm, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany452 Posts
lindsyjones: There's got to be a line of correctness for either side somewhere and look at things objectively without hindering the truth Kaet I think.


Speaking of truth, the latest update of truth regarding the situation within the refugee centers in Germany



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May 10, 2016 7:06 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
kaetchenvonhn
kaetchenvonhnkaetchenvonhnNeckarsulm, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany452 Posts


An interesting arcticle that talked about war in Syria and the consequence it brought after Merkel came with her refugee policy. "Young Men, who brought along the culture of violence with them" written by a German with Syrian background and has been living in Germany for more than 50 years.



More of Bassam Tibi

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May 10, 2016 9:29 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
kaetchenvonhn: So is the media here.

Süddeutsche Zeitung has reported there was an attack this morning in train station of Grafing in Bavaria. There was a report that the suspect was yelling "Allahu akbar!" but it was reported by the media that he has a mental problem.

So, summary is be careful of someone yelling "Allahu akbar!". It could be a first sign of mental problem (according to how the media reported the news)

To make the news more biased, the identitiy of the suspect is reported (normally not if suspects were immigrants), the suspect is a German. They may forget that when it comes to islam, even German can convert to islam and do exactly the same thing that islamic terrorism do against "infidels".





Ah Kaet you have forgotten that everyone with a German passoprt automatically becomes German laugh
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May 10, 2016 10:11 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Capricorn143
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kaetchenvonhn: An interesting arcticle that talked about war in Syria and the consequence it brought after Merkel came with her refugee policy. "Young Men, who brought along the culture of violence with them" written by a German with Syrian background and has been living in Germany for more than 50 years.



More of Bassam Tibi



Excellent article! Some here should read it, but I know they won't or they will still keep on claiming the opposite like it is them who know the "culture" not the those who were raised in it and dare speak about it truthfully. Just a couple of exceprts from the article:

Among the war refugees are not only victims of violence but also many perpetrators, even many Islamists. In addition, these mainly young men between 14 and 20 years old also with them they bring the culture of violence against women, the culture from the Middle East to Germany. The New Year's Eve in Cologne is just a proof of this, and not an isolated case, as the foolish politicians want to downplay the significance of the matter.

Regardless of the war, the image of women in the Arab-Oriental culture is patriarchal.This image of women cannot be tolerated under the cloak of respect for other cultures in Europe.

The violence by these Arab men was not targeted only at women but also at European men, as a means to violate the honor.

If Germany gets over a million people from the world of Islam and does not meet their expectations, you have to expect to be affected. From advertising, these young men think they know that every European has a luxury apartment, a car and a "pretty blonde"; they think that they are getting this as well and will be involved in the prosperity.

But when these young men instead end up in an emergency accommodation in schools and sports centers, then they feel cheated, even discriminated. So they develop feelings of revenge towards the European man. The disappointed and angry Arab men therefore retaliated in Cologne and Hamburg to the German men by attacking their women.

I say: This was a culturally anchored revenge. Those who don't criticize this not only show false tolerance, but also ignorance about other cultures.

Germany is thanks to the invitation of Chancellor Angela Merkel the main destination of the refugees. The childish quarrel between all German parties on ceilings and a limitation of the number shows that German politicians do not understand the scale of the problems.

While German politicians and German-gooders "in a German pathos of the Absolute" (Adorno) talk about tolerance and the plight of refugees, many Islamists laugh contemptuously and call these debates "Byzantine chatter".
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May 12, 2016 9:16 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Sorry guys, I was so busy helping people and now I adopted a whole family to help temporarily instead of them going to the shelter.wave
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May 13, 2016 12:01 PM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Oooooh what a surprise doh

"According to German federal crime office, a number of Islamic terrorists have entered Germany by hiding amongst recent flows of migrants from the Middle East, and since last year 369 people with suspected ties to the Islamic State have come into the country in this way.

German security authorities have indications that members and supporters of terrorist organizations are infiltrating groups of migrants in a focused and organized way, in order to launch attacks in Germany,” said a police spokesman, adding that there was no specific evidence of a planned attack at this time.

Of the hundreds of suspected Islamic jihadists entering Germany, 40 cases are currently under judicial investigation at the federal and state level, said a spokesman of the Bundeskriminalamt in Berlin.

The data indicate an overall increase in infiltration by prospective terrorists, with only 213 reports recorded up to early January, among which 18 cases were under federal investigation.

Some of the information regarding terrorist infiltration has come from other migrants who encountered the suspects in refugee camps.

The sharp increase in numbers has led the German authorities to sound a new terror alert, not only in Germany, but throughout Europe."



And god knows how many of those not detected yet roll eyes
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May 13, 2016 6:42 PM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
kaetchenvonhn: So is the media here.

Süddeutsche Zeitung has reported there was an attack this morning in train station of Grafing in Bavaria. There was a report that the suspect was yelling "Allahu akbar!" but it was reported by the media that he has a mental problem.

So, summary is be careful of someone yelling "Allahu akbar!". It could be a first sign of mental problem (according to how the media reported the news)

To make the news more biased, the identitiy of the suspect is reported (normally not if suspects were immigrants), the suspect is a German. They may forget that when it comes to islam, even German can convert to islam and do exactly the same thing that islamic terrorism do against "infidels".



doh

Very sad dear Kaet, manipulating the truth to fit in their agenda. Very sad..
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May 14, 2016 7:17 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
What a surprise roll eyes



Fishing migrants out of the sea and taking them to Italy has never been meant to stop smugglers, on the onctrary it assists them.

More and more keep on venturing across on little rubber boats as they know they only need to get a bit from the African coast and the naive infidels will do the rest.

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May 14, 2016 7:18 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Capricorn143: What a surprise



Fishing migrants out of the sea and taking them to Italy has never been meant to stop smugglers, on the onctrary it assists them.

More and more keep on venturing across on little rubber boats as they know they only need to get a bit from the African coast and the naive infidels will do the rest.


contrary
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May 19, 2016 9:23 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
kaetchenvonhn: An interesting arcticle that talked about war in Syria and the consequence it brought after Merkel came with her refugee policy. "Young Men, who brought along the culture of violence with them" written by a German with Syrian background and has been living in Germany for more than 50 years.



More of Bassam Tibi



Kaet, what I don't understand is that had she forgotten that most leaders in the islam world has vehemently declared that the west is the enemy? Think of these young men to have been raised under such a rage and then invite them over? What a stupid leader would do such a thing.frustrated
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May 21, 2016 5:57 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
paris55
paris55paris55bayern, Bavaria Germany9 Posts
Why so much hate twards moslem,ARE YOU JEWS?
JoyCrest: They hate the West because there is freedom, democracy and prosperity. They like to go backward. They only think of destruction and want to destroy the civilization in Europe. If they don't kill or bomb, they impose their culture, "cultural terrorism". The intolerant Muslims in Switzerland wanted aggressively to remove the cross of the national flag, but the authorities denied their petition. Well, the Red Crescent instead of the Red Cross is used in the Arab countries to please them. It is now inevitable, Muslims are to make up a large and growing proportion of the population in Europe. Would it be Europeanization of Islam or the Islamization of Europe? Muslims in general don't have the will to assimilate or integrate.
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May 21, 2016 10:11 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
thelad2007: na, not convinced at all. the 'terrify campaign' is in full swing and i suspect will be successful in the end


Well when that happens Tom, the whole of UU will be dismantled...me thinks..sad flower
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May 21, 2016 10:14 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
paris55: Why so much hate twards moslem,ARE YOU JEWS?


I think you are mistaken Paris. With due respect, she is only stating the truth and not because of hating them. On the contrary, it is the moslem who deliberately declares to have the West and specially America. Did you know how Hussein and all his followers said and keeps on saying even today: To wipe out all the Christians and specially the Jews and America?

Are you aware that whenever there is a staged and accomplished terror, they immediately take the credit of having purposely done it? sad flower
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May 21, 2016 10:23 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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May 21, 2016 11:28 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Thanks John and I hope that Paris will listen and know that it is the islam who hates us..wanting to kill us all.

Let it not be distorted that it is a fact as provided for in their quran.
To kill us all, is there justice in that?frustrated
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May 22, 2016 2:33 AM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
lindsyjones: Thanks John and I hope that Paris will listen and know that it is the islam who hates us..wanting to kill us all.

Let it not be distorted that it is a fact as provided for in their quran.
To kill us all, is there justice in that?


Seems like it is fine with her/him that Jews are theatened again.

Amazing article on how harsh but liberal Danish immigrant policy may seem like a very good thing in light of the rise of far-right parties in Germany, Sweden and elsewhere.



"In Denmark, by contrast, where immigration skeptics were never written out of the political conversation, alternative views have always been part of the political system. Though the Danish People’s Party is often mischaracterized as “far right,” it is not nearly as extreme as the Sweden Democrats. Anti-migration sentiments are thus channeled in a healthy way — the parliamentary process — and not onto the streets."

"Yes, Denmark may be “harsh” and “liberal,” but sometimes you have to emphasize the former to protect the latter."

To take this to "fishing out drowning migrants and taking them to Europe" (un)policy: something that seemed harsh at the beginning of the influx may seem too soft of an approach now. Politicians are elected and paid more than generously to take harsh decisions and take them in time, very soon it seems nothing else will be able to stop the influx but the use of weapons.

The regressive liberals should finally start using their heads and decide what they want: turning Europe into a thirld world country, or preserving democracy and the social system that has worked very well so far, free speech, gender equality.
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May 22, 2016 1:23 PM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Capricorn143: Seems like it is fine with her/him that Jews are theatened again.

Amazing article on how harsh but liberal Danish immigrant policy may seem like a very good thing in light of the rise of far-right parties in Germany, Sweden and elsewhere.



"In Denmark, by contrast, where immigration skeptics were never written out of the political conversation, alternative views have always been part of the political system. Though the Danish People’s Party is often mischaracterized as “far right,” it is not nearly as extreme as the Sweden Democrats. Anti-migration sentiments are thus channeled in a healthy way — the parliamentary process — and not onto the streets."

"Yes, Denmark may be “harsh” and “liberal,” but sometimes you have to emphasize the former to protect the latter."

To take this to "fishing out drowning migrants and taking them to Europe" (un)policy: something that seemed harsh at the beginning of the influx may seem too soft of an approach now. Politicians are elected and paid more than generously to take harsh decisions and take them in time, very soon it seems nothing else will be able to stop the influx but the use of weapons.


The regressive liberals should finally start using their heads and decide what they want: turning Europe into a thirld world country, or preserving democracy and the social system that has worked very well so far, free speech, gender equality.


D, perhaps if these things are thought of before it is the ONLY alternative then perhpas, humanity can be saved..

Meantime, responsible political leaders have to come to a unified effort of preventing this direction. Merkel should be ousted if she keeps ignoring this possibility..frustrated
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May 22, 2016 3:58 PM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
David7373
David7373David7373Dekalb, Illinois USA1 Posts
In response to: This is to continue our discussion on the development of Merkel's open admittance to all migrants in Germany

Thanks all for your participation.

This needs an attentive resolution process
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May 22, 2016 4:14 PM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
David7373: This needs an attentive resolution process
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May 29, 2016 5:31 PM CST Germany suffers as a result of Merkel's decision Part 2
Malfidus
MalfidusMalfidusAntwerp, Antwerpen Belgium7 Threads 117 Posts
In response to: This is to continue our discussion on the development of Merkel's open admittance to all migrants in Germany

Thanks all for your participation.


Misses Jones,I wonder what the goal is of your tread? I do not believe an inhabitant of the US has any benefits or interest is starting up a tread as this, knowing there are much other items and problems that interests the American people today. I assume you do it just for your amusement or...?
BTW. I doubt you are the person you prescribe in your profile. It is just a cover up to mislead the other. What your real goal is I do not know but I also don't trust you.

Btw: Europe will have to deal with the Islam terrorists the one way the other. One thing is for sure, a strong Europe would be a real threat for the US, Russia,... in all the aspects. This is now avoided by the Islam terrorism...induced by ......??? For the moment: mission accomplished and status steady!
Do not feel offended and respect the freedom of speech!
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