Do women really need feminism? ( Archived) (73)

Nov 22, 2017 6:17 PM CST Do women really need feminism?
Kapow_
Kapow_Kapow_Buenos Aires, Argentina4 Threads 15 Posts
One2note: If I see Lindsy jones commenting, I know it's gonna be a boring thread!


Oi!!! Watch it pretty boy. scold

Don't be labeling my thread as boring. very mad
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Nov 23, 2017 1:57 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
yubba
yubbayubbaCaspe, Aragon Spain11 Threads 1,962 Posts
Kapow_: Ye are pretty much saying that you are victims if you do.
And thy shall be reminded that EQUALITY includes MEN !!!!


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Yes.
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Nov 23, 2017 4:33 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Feminism/ Maninsm

Just want equal pay.

Would be nice.
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Nov 23, 2017 4:46 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
platosha: I never been in India but I saw many documentary videos about different crimes that are happening currently in India against women.. honor killings are still there, rapes, s*xual harassment, plenty woman marrying older men and when they become widows they are thrown out of the society, basically in the streets.... acid throwing,, dowry killings.. and female infanticide..when they selectively abort female fetus,, as a daughter born in the family seen as a burden... Do according to the information available there is big time discrimination of women in India, mostly in rural arrears..


My post to GS was sarcasm, knowing that women in that country do have to suffer all of what you stated above thumbs up
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Nov 23, 2017 4:53 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
mollybaby: My post to GS was sarcasm, knowing that women in that country do have to suffer all of what you stated above


Why?
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Nov 24, 2017 10:32 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
platosha: I never been in India but I saw many documentary videos about different crimes that are happening currently in India against women.. honor killings are still there, rapes, s*xual harassment, plenty woman marrying older men and when they become widows they are thrown out of the society, basically in the streets.... acid throwing,, dowry killings.. and female infanticide..when they selectively abort female fetus,, as a daughter born in the family seen as a burden... Do according to the information available there is big time discrimination of women in India, mostly in rural arrears..



I already said above women are given more rights politically i.e rights given by govt. to make their condition stronger and whatever you mentioned above categories as crime/punishable offense here.
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Nov 24, 2017 10:55 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
Kapow_: Ye are pretty much saying that you are victims if you do.
And thy shall be reminded that EQUALITY includes MEN !!!!


I used to be a feminist. People tried to down me in everything and place. Mainly men and women ducking up to them.

I Stan on my own to feel. Liston to constructive advice and propose a mid way.

Feminists r stronger than men as they have to fight all the way to get somewhere in life. Since men feel to be all and end all of everyone and thing
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Nov 24, 2017 11:14 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Naaaaa.any woman laying there, with her ankles next to her ears.....is the most beautiful woman in the world.....professor rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 25, 2017 4:06 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Mercedes_00online today!
Mercedes_00online today!Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
Many woman need duct tape over that mouth of theirs.
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Nov 25, 2017 10:07 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
MetaMaus
MetaMausMetaMausKilkenny, Ireland4 Threads 501 Posts
Mercedes_00: Many woman need duct tape over that mouth of theirs.

Do they now?
How charming of you
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Nov 25, 2017 10:47 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Mickmjb
MickmjbMickmjbMansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK2 Threads 245 Posts
Women seem to have cought men up in many ways, drinking, swearing, farting and fighting, once wages have cought up they'll just need better moustaches and it'll be fairly equal! head banger
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Nov 25, 2017 10:56 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Kapow_: Ye are pretty much saying that you are victims if you do.
And thy shall be reminded that EQUALITY includes MEN !!!!



i don't seem to be able to find 'feminism' on Maslow's scale...though he does mention with psychological needs to be met, there needs to be a sense of love and belongingness (which includes intimate relationships and friends). He also mentions esteem needs, and fulfillment needs. and i imagine being treated equal may certainly contribute to that. (grin).

as for 'victim'.... what's that got to do with feminism? please explain this. i don't understand the connection between feminism and victim. thank you.

perhaps this is a 'wind up' thread intended to inspire discussion...




wine
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Nov 25, 2017 10:59 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Mercedes_00: Many woman need duct tape over that mouth of theirs.


you say that....like it's a bad thing...(grin)


or maybe not...lol.

i can't seem to find duct tape on Maslow's list, either.




sometimes, it can be confusing to distinguish wants from needs...
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Nov 25, 2017 11:02 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
Kapow_: Ye are pretty much saying that you are victims if you do.
And thy shall be reminded that EQUALITY includes MEN !!!!


My feminism does not include men in a personal capacity, but where I have to deal with men at work or socially, they r just like anyone else, of as much importance as only u urself allow.
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Nov 27, 2017 10:43 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Giwreh
GiwrehGiwrehTemse, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium1 Threads 66 Posts
Kapow_: Ye are pretty much saying that you are victims if you do.
And thy shall be reminded that EQUALITY includes MEN !!!!

People ... need Humanism ... handshake
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Nov 27, 2017 11:03 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Stuckinarizona
StuckinarizonaStuckinarizonaCottonwood, Arizona USA7 Posts
So let me ask everyone this. Would you not agree that inequality exist throughout the animal kindgdom?
I know that we like to exempt ourselves from the animals however, I believe that we are a member of that group.
With that said, we are not all equals and those who feel that we should be are asking the rest of us to be unnatural.
I do not complain because a woman makes more money than I, nor should I. Don't get me wrong, men generally make a higher wage doing the "same" work as women but have you taken into account the possibility of tenure, responsibilty, knowledge of the job, productivity, etc. etc.?
What I am getting at is generally speaking no two jobs are "exactly alike and no two people are exactly alike. I believe that we all have the same opportunity to be successful, or do we?
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Nov 27, 2017 11:13 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
Stuckinarizona
StuckinarizonaStuckinarizonaCottonwood, Arizona USA7 Posts
Please name me one economic, political, or social right that a man has and a woman in the United States doesn't.
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Nov 27, 2017 11:26 AM CST Do women really need feminism?
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Mickmjb: Women seem to have cought men up in many ways, drinking, swearing, farting and fighting, once wages have cought up they'll just need better moustaches and it'll be fairly equal!







Oh, yes they have and some are even worse than men...
If that's what feminism if for, well no, thanks...
handshake
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Nov 27, 2017 12:02 PM CST Do women really need feminism?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Stuckinarizona: So let me ask everyone this. Would you not agree that inequality exist throughout the animal kindgdom?
I know that we like to exempt ourselves from the animals however, I believe that we are a member of that group.
With that said, we are not all equals and those who feel that we should be are asking the rest of us to be unnatural.
I do not complain because a woman makes more money than I, nor should I. Don't get me wrong, men generally make a higher wage doing the "same" work as women but have you taken into account the possibility of tenure, responsibilty, knowledge of the job, productivity, etc. etc.?
What I am getting at is generally speaking no two jobs are "exactly alike and no two people are exactly alike. I believe that we all have the same opportunity to be successful, or do we?


equality does not exist. here, there,or anywhere. at times, there is equal opportunity, but as people, no we are not equal.

though there are many instances where men and women make equal pay for equal work, i do believe there are still some hangers on from the era when men were paid more because 'they supported a family". i was fortunate, i have always been paid independent of gender, receiving equal pay for equal work. as well, i have been fortunate to have had opportunities to participate in education beyond high school. i am aware that this was a blessing, as there wasn't really anything 'equal' about it.

i also believe that women can have tenure, responsibility, knowledge of the job, and productivity.



wine
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Nov 27, 2017 12:03 PM CST Do women really need feminism?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Stuckinarizona: Please name me one economic, political, or social right that a man has and a woman in the United States doesn't.


he can use the 'men's room' in public facilities....
laugh
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