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Dec 2, 2017 7:53 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
reb56: dems n rinos steal from usa,not trump so far,why do u think sessions is quiet n gone soon.

Trumps steals every day from American Taxpayers, the cost of supporting his travelling and golf in less than a year is now more than Obama cost in 4 years.
He also stole from students who enrolled in his fake university. Your hero is no god!
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Dec 2, 2017 8:18 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
mykingdomforanam: Trump stole votes, when he promised Hillary would be in prison.


No he did not, he just said what people wanted to hear and he knew that they would buy it and they did.

Hillary will never be in prison and the chances of Trump being impeached are low yet in the worst scenario the senate can acquit him as long as this happens soon, otherwise things could get complicated with the 2018 elections for the 33/100 seat in the senate.
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Dec 2, 2017 8:20 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
rizlared: Trumps steals every day from American Taxpayers, the cost of supporting his travelling and golf in less than a year is now more than Obama cost in 4 years.
He also stole from students who enrolled in his fake university. Your hero is no god!


That cost could go even higher with the new approved tax-cut but until he releases his tax returns no one knows for sure.
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Dec 2, 2017 8:37 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
lifeisadream: No he did not, he just said what people wanted to hear and he knew that they would buy it and they did.

Hillary will never be in prison and the chances of Trump being impeached are low yet in the worst scenario the senate can acquit him as long as this happens soon, otherwise things could get complicated with the 2018 elections for the 33/100 seat in the senate.

He also lied to the thousands of workers who he promised in return for voting for him he would ensure their jobs were secure. more than half have now already lost their jobs and more will go early next year. Ford are even moving production for some models to China, yet Trump said Ford would never do that, he even made Ford abandon plans for a new factory in mexico.

The way things are going Trump will probably announce that he won't stand for a second term, rather than admit that he has no support from any party, even his family is starting to distance themselves from him.

He will soon have to rebuild his main back-office officials and fast running out of any loyal candidates. He is a terrible man manager and as can be seen every day, stabs his loyal supporters in the back whenever he needs to divert attention from himself.
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Dec 2, 2017 8:41 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
rizlared: Quoting a Japanese America, who obviously refuses to acknowledge the facts as shown in the rest of Asia, does nothing to strengthen the topic you have put forward.

Maybe this coming year, you have a holiday in China, go to Nanjing, not far from Shanghai, less than 1 hour by high-speed train. While there take a visit to the museum dedicated to those who died in the Massacre, read the letters passed between Japan and Germany which describe in detail how to transfer a fetus from one woman to another, without the use of anaesthetics, take a look at the photos of huge pits filled with women and children, half dead where you can see the expressions on their faces as the Japanese filled earth on top of them.
Then go to the wall with the thousands of names of those who died at the hands of the murderers.
Then take a flight to Jakarta and see a similar museum there, or to Manilla and look at the photos in museums there of the way the Japanese tortured Filipino women for pleasure, you can round off your trip to Singapore or Kuala Lumpur and see what the museums say about the Japanese invasions of those countries.

Just an idea, so you can see with your own eyes and then maybe you will think twice before posting biased propaganda.


You have a problem when anyone says the slightest thing abot China, especially when a discussion comes up that touches on how brutal civilization is there. You always have to campare to the west or maybe even blame the west.

Can’t anyone discuss how cruel Chinese are without you getting so defensive. I’ve never mentioned mao and how he was so cruel to his own people but I can imagine if I did you would say the West makes up stories about mao. Here .... is any of this false?

Mao Zedong, founder of the People's Republic of China, qualifies as the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said yesterday. ... At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China ... in about four years. 45,000,000 Chinese peo0e killed by their own ruler. Pitiful...talk about crime against humanity...... no one from China living here wants to go back to live or even visit China again...and deal with the dirt, the fear, the pollution, or their own people struggling.


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Dec 2, 2017 8:45 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
rizlared: It really doesn't matter whether the numbers killed are 600 million or 600, the atrocities are beyond most normal thinking people's imagination. That is why China and other Asian countries will never forgive Japan, made worse by the constant denials made by Japan, the rewritten history to cover over their terrible past.
And for western people to condone such evil is beyond the pale.
so,Mao had to Upstage the Japanese,and kill even more of his own People?
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Dec 2, 2017 8:48 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
rizlared: He also lied to the thousands of workers who he promised in return for voting for him he would ensure their jobs were secure. more than half have now already lost their jobs and more will go early next year. Ford are even moving production for some models to China, yet Trump said Ford would never do that, he even made Ford abandon plans for a new factory in mexico.

The way things are going Trump will probably announce that he won't stand for a second term, rather than admit that he has no support from any party, even his family is starting to distance themselves from him.

He will soon have to rebuild his main back-office officials and fast running out of any loyal candidates. He is a terrible man manager and as can be seen every day, stabs his loyal supporters in the back whenever he needs to divert attention from himself.


Good and bad in a country's economy can not be attributed to the president in turn, there are many factors that add-subtract to it.

I do understand that a political leader must want to serve/benefit the people in their land, what I do criticize is the way of doing it and the lies that go along yet many blindly believe it.

One example during the campaign: if Hillary wins there will be war...well... there is war going on with Trump and he is promoting huge weapons' deals.
Are people that brainless?

and for people to know Japanese history that is asking too much laugh

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Dec 2, 2017 8:55 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
galrads: You have a problem when anyone says the slightest thing abot China, especially when a discussion comes up that touches on how brutal civilization is there. You always have to campare to the west or maybe even blame the west.

Can’t anyone discuss how cruel Chinese are without you getting so defensive. I’ve never mentioned mao and how he was so cruel to his own people but I can imagine if I did you would say the West makes up stories about mao. Here .... is any of this false?

Mao Zedong, founder of the People's Republic of China, qualifies as the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said yesterday. ... At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China ... in about four years. 45,000,000 Chinese peo0e killed by their own ruler. Pitiful...talk about crime against humanity...... no one from China living here wants to go back to live or even visit China again...and deal with the dirt, the fear, the pollution, or their own people struggling.

Am I defensive about the constant lies put out by ignorant Americans, absolutely. But I also do the same for other countries that I have experience about, for example, the recent change of leadership in Zimbabwe, because so many had the false ideas about the history.
As for Mao, he did dreadful things, there are many things wrong with China today, and if you took notice of my posts, you would see I have constantly spoken about them. China is far from perfect, I would be the first to stand up and say so, but when lies are pushed out to support any agenda to malign any country, that needs to be corrected in my opinion.
I have had the fortune to have lived and worked all over the world, that experience has shown me that most people really have no real idea about the country they live next too let alone those on the other side of the world.

You want to discuss how cruel China was during the WWII, sure go ahead, but if you really were interested, you would have done some research before quoting a biased piece of propaganda.

So no I am not denying the cruelty committed by the Chinese during war times, it certainly happened, but with respect Galrads, that is minuscule in comparison to the cruelty carried out by the Japanese.

Your topic was in reference to why China holds such hatred for Japan, I offered an explanation, sorry if the truth offended you.
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Dec 2, 2017 9:02 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
rizlared: Am I defensive about the constant lies put out by ignorant Americans, absolutely. But I also do the same for other countries that I have experience about, for example, the recent change of leadership in Zimbabwe, because so many had the false ideas about the history.
As for Mao, he did dreadful things, there are many things wrong with China today, and if you took notice of my posts, you would see I have constantly spoken about them. China is far from perfect, I would be the first to stand up and say so, but when lies are pushed out to support any agenda to malign any country, that needs to be corrected in my opinion.
I have had the fortune to have lived and worked all over the world, that experience has shown me that most people really have no real idea about the country they live next too let alone those on the other side of the world.

You want to discuss how cruel China was during the WWII, sure go ahead, but if you really were interested, you would have done some research before quoting a biased piece of propaganda.

So no I am not denying the cruelty committed by the Chinese during war times, it certainly happened, but with respect Galrads, that is minuscule in comparison to the cruelty carried out by the Japanese.

Your topic was in reference to why China holds such hatred for Japan, I offered an explanation, sorry if the truth offended you.



You think like Chinese think.... what do you want to tell people what to think and why to think what they should think? rolling on the floor laughing

Carry on ... you are entertain8g. But I do wish you would contribute more positively. handshake
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Dec 2, 2017 9:06 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
mykingdomforanam: Trump stole votes, when he promised Hillary would be in prison.
thats commie b/s,ask bernie about stolen votes!he got the burn,n told 2 like it or die by killary n gang of thugs n u want her 2 rule u,put the pipe down!
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Dec 2, 2017 9:08 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
galrads: You think like Chinese think.... what do you want to tell people what to think and why to think what they should think?

Carry on ... you are entertain8g. But I do wish you would contribute more positively.
agree n their spy is here,when did they get free access 2 the internet n perfect english,etc.beware my friends!
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Dec 2, 2017 9:12 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Conrad73: so,Mao had to Upstage the Japanese,and kill even more of his own People?

All before my time Conrad, but however many died in the Chinese civil war, it would seem that Mao was loved and held in great reverence by those who remained after the war. And is still regarded as the father of the new Chinese state.
Personally, I still find it hard to understand just why the Chinese have such high regard for Mao, but I'm not Chinese, didn't live through that period of time, so just respect that is the way of life in China, it is their country and traditions, not mine.
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Dec 2, 2017 9:17 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
reb56: agree n their spy is here,when did they get free access 2 the internet n perfect english,etc.beware my friends!



Yep, most people don’t know who really rules China because it’s not the ceremonial puppet position of president.
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Dec 2, 2017 9:25 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
galrads: You think like Chinese think.... what do you want to tell people what to think and why to think what they should think?

Carry on ... you are entertain8g. But I do wish you would contribute more positively.


America would have been brought to her knees long ago if Japan had a surplus billion of people. it doesn't matter if they're Chinese or Japanese or Korean - they're all the same advanced race of extraterrestrial insects which fights as a colony. You can't win against that unless you're prepared to fight the same way and we're only prepared to do that when there's a war on.
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Dec 2, 2017 9:28 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
galrads: You think like Chinese think.... what do you want to tell people what to think and why to think what they should think?

Carry on ... you are entertain8g. But I do wish you would contribute more positively.


Hahaha, maybe I think like you think the Chinese think, but unless you actually live here you have no real idea how they think, and I can assure you, my thought process is a long way from that of a native Chinese lol.

I truly wish you would visit this country, and then see with your own eyes the lies and misinformation put about by western media.

If you get the chance, go and speak with someone who has visited China and I am sure you will be amazed that their impression is far from the one you have right now.

China has very clean streets, far cleaner than most western cities, you can walk around most cities at any time day and night and feel safe, muggers and thieves are a rarity, especially away from the huge cities such as Beijing or Shanghai.
On the other hand the internet is terrible, slow and of course very hard to access websites outside of China without a VPN, rules and regulations are an everyday nuisance, even trying to find a spare classroom for extra tuition requires several forms to be completed and returned days later with a red stamp to give permission. And the driving here is the worst I have experienced anywhere other than India.

In fairness, before I came to China, my own opinion was not dissimilar to yours.
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Dec 2, 2017 9:31 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ChesneyChrist: America would have been brought to her knees long ago if Japan had a surplus billion of people. it doesn't matter if they're Chinese or Japanese or Korean - they're all the same advanced race of extraterrestrial insects which fights as a colony. You can't win against that unless you're prepared to fight the same way and we're only prepared to do that when there's a war on.



Have you ever visited Japan or China? I might visit Japan one day but I believe I don’t want to try and survive all the air and water pollution found in China today.
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Dec 2, 2017 9:34 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
rizlared: Hahaha, maybe I think like you think the Chinese think, but unless you actually live here you have no real idea how they think, and I can assure you, my thought process is a long way from that of a native Chinese lol.

I truly wish you would visit this country, and then see with your own eyes the lies and misinformation put about by western media.

If you get the chance, go and speak with someone who has visited China and I am sure you will be amazed that their impression is far from the one you have right now.

China has very clean streets, far cleaner than most western cities, you can walk around most cities at any time day and night and feel safe, muggers and thieves are a rarity, especially away from the huge cities such as Beijing or Shanghai.
On the other hand the internet is terrible, slow and of course very hard to access websites outside of China without a VPN, rules and regulations are an everyday nuisance, even trying to find a spare classroom for extra tuition requires several forms to be completed and returned days later with a red stamp to give permission. And the driving here is the worst I have experienced anywhere other than India.

In fairness, before I came to China, my own opinion was not dissimilar to yours.



A very close friend of mine visited China earlier this year for the first time since she was there 30 years ago, way before their was China Disney. She loves China but not the pollution there. She’s into archeology and is fascinated by China’s history and she is devastated that China lost so much history to build dams.
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Dec 2, 2017 10:41 PM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
reb56: thats commie b/s,ask bernie about stolen votes!he got the burn,n told 2 like it or die by killary n gang of thugs n u want her 2 rule u,put the pipe down!




Bernie didn't steal any votes by promising to put Hillary in prison.


Trump did!


Trump supporters are pissed he won't pursue charges against Hillary Clinton
Mashable › 2016/11/22 › trump...
Nov 22, 2016 · chants and a threat to put her in jail, President-elect Donald Trump now says ... 62 percent of Trump voters believed in his campaign promise to appoint a ...
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Dec 3, 2017 2:08 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
rizlared: Not sure why you think NK is under Chinas control, China is very fearful that any war in NK could result in a nuclear explosion, from which China mainland would suffer intolerable damage and countless loss in lives.
To suggest that China is behind the nuclear threat being waved around by NK at this time is really rather short sighted.
North Korea would not exit if it was not for China and they should well fear nuclear war next to China . North Korea should have been treated by China the same way South Africa was by the western allies over South Africa's nuclear ambitions . There is no way China could not have known that North Korea was developing nuclear weapons , and in that China is responsible .
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Dec 3, 2017 2:17 AM CST Is China behind farming hate for Japan with North and South Korea?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
epirb: North Korea would not exit if it was not for China and they should well fear nuclear war next to China . North Korea should have been treated by China the same way South Africa was by the western allies over South Africa's nuclear ambitions . There is no way China could not have known that North Korea was developing nuclear weapons , and in that China is responsible .

I'm sure China was aware that NK was indeed constructing Nuclear weapons, but NK is an independent country, albeit tied to South Korea, which means the China would have had no right to dictate to them what they can and can't do. China did advise the NK government some years ago to refrain from building these weapons, but China has as much right to tell NK what to do than New Zealand telling Australia what they can and can't do.

Maybe the USA should dictate to Mexico what they can do, Oh wait, Trump is already doing that, doing a great job of it toorolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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