rainbowdream2017OPMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,486 posts
KremaP: To be honest I think there are no people who are emotionally ignorant... Ignoring or suppressing your own emotions doesn't mean you are not understanding them, on a contrary. Why would anyone want to suppress an emotion they doesn't understand, it's not a threat to them if they don't know where it will take them. It's up to their personal choice if they want to show their ability to connect on a deep level... JMO
Suppressing emotions may be conected to symptoms in PTSD who avoid intense emotions of any kind. Department of Veterans Affairs examined solders who where engaging in emotional avoidance, related to war traumas. Interesting stuff to read. From what I have read - they need training management in how to handle emotional issues to do better, because emotional expression is an important part of our coping capability and this solders with war traumas run the risk that one day the volcano will erupt with a vengeance, if is not treated...the same thing might be with Syrian refugees or any other victims of war traumas...but apart from this extrime experiences of war traumas , even without war, life is hard enough...
rainbowdream2017: Suppressing emotions may be conected to symptoms in PTSD who avoid intense emotions of any kind. Department of Veterans Affairs examined solders who where engaging in emotional avoidance, related to war traumas. Interesting stuff to read. From what I have read - they need training management in how to handle emotional issues to do better, because emotional expression is an important part of our coping capability and this solders with war traumas run the risk that one day the volcano will erupt with a vengeance, if is not treated...the same thing might be with Syrian refugees or any other victims of war traumas...but apart from this extrime experiences of war traumas , even without war, life is hard enough...
It's more psychological than purely emotional matter in these cases...
rainbowdream2017OPMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,486 posts
KremaP: It's more psychological than purely emotional matter in these cases...
True. My intention wasn't really to go into this subject of PTSD problem but just touched it as part of this topic in relation to suppressing emotions.
I am more interested to explore views about, how emotional intelligence reflects in 'clicking with others' or vice versa and in overcoming obstacles...
rainbowdream2017: True. My intention wasn't really to go into this subject of PTSD problem but just touched it as part of this topic in relation to suppressing emotions.
I am more interested to explore views about, how emotional intelligence reflects in 'clicking with others' or vice versa and in overcoming obstacles...
rainbowdream2017: Is that you jumping like James Bond ?
Full of action.
Well, its my apology (for my exuberance/teasing) and...
rainbowdream2017: I am more interested to explore views about, how emotional intelligence reflects in 'clicking with others' or vice versa and in overcoming obstacles...
rainbowdream2017OPMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,486 posts
DoubleFantasy: Well, its my apology (for my exuberance/teasing) and...
It fulfills, some way, your quote above
Thank you. I am going true my thoughts, for what should I appologise myself for... but it must be something I said in over reaction lol and you being so kind to cross this bridge and shake hands ...it's gentlemen way of honouring and I am.pleased to give you back welcoming hug. You make me feel, I am happy to appologise for what ever I said that might be offencive replay to you too, in my likable over reaction on you're exuberance / teasing.
rainbowdream2017OPMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,486 posts
DoubleFantasy: Well, its my apology (for my exuberance/teasing) and...
It fulfills, some way, your quote above
Where where we....lol I appologise for this nusence disturbance, it was only a fly that needed to be quickly sprayed - not to buzz around, making usless noise.
rainbowdream2017: Emotional intelligence in fact is emotional intimacy, being in touch with our emotions and having the ability to connect with another person on an intimate level, it's a lot to do with ability to share compassion and empathy with one another, having intuition to sense people ...miles away, people we haven't meet and in some magical way feel connected to (when on the same weaves of energy vibrations and sharing commen similarities ). Most of what we receive in communication happens beyond the words we speak in the form of the cues that we pick up from each other and people who are able to pick up on those cues are said to have Emotional intelligence. Not all Einstein type of brightest people are good to learn this,in fact, many man have been thought not to feel ....as being emotionally sensitive is 'only socially - acceptable for women (?)', until the stuff hits the fan, those humbling and humiliating experience storms in life triggers awakening earthquake of the soul ...it will remain just discassion of having a knowladge about emotions but not attached to them and wander if for some people will ever come life storm to 'brake them open' to become able to learn this....as they may stay 'misunderstood' and offten feel alienated from other's who can't connect to knowledgeable 'robot'...that can only give definition of emotions. What is you're thought and experience ? We have plenty examples on forum discussion about the positive and negative impact of this ... Thanks for sharing.
Great post Rainbow and interesting contributions. In my opinion, I believe that emotional intelligence is something that is learnt throughout life. Many will question the why, where, when, who, what, and how of an emotion that is causing conflict within themselves to gain extra knowledge and understanding in order to deal with it. Men for the most part inhabit environments geared to the macho male where emotions don’t exist (tongue in cheek). However, I found from research that men are far more vulnerable than women! Knowledge is power and emotional knowledge will ensure that the hurdles on life’s journey are so much easier to overcome. All of life’s coping skills should be taught in schools from an early age including emotional intelligence.
rainbowdream2017: Where where we....lol I appologise for this nusence disturbance, it was only a fly that needed to be quickly sprayed - not to buzz around, making usless noise.
You did what you had to. I think he is ok really up until this point where he "threw a wobbly" / tantrum, and not sure where it all fell down. He is hurting as he started a thread on it but i think its been taken down and we should hope he will bounce back, back to his usual jovial self, and not be disgruntled
MsContessa: Great post Rainbow and interesting contributions. In my opinion, I believe that emotional intelligence is something that is learnt throughout life. Many will question the why, where, when, who, what, and how of an emotion that is causing conflict within themselves to gain extra knowledge and understanding in order to deal with it. Men for the most part inhabit environments geared to the macho male where emotions don’t exist (tongue in cheek). However, I found from research that men are far more vulnerable than women! Knowledge is power and emotional knowledge will ensure that the hurdles on life’s journey are so much easier to overcome. All of life’s coping skills should be taught in schools from an early age including emotional intelligence.
I agree with you MsC. Especially the last line. I think kids can do with less of learning how to colour within the lines and more of reading between them.
An overhaul on the education system would be an ideal..to build stronger more adeptable kids.
Deedee123x: I agree with you MsC. Especially the last line. I think kids can do with less of learning how to colour within the lines and more of reading between them.
An overhaul on the education system would be an ideal..to build stronger more adeptable kids.
The education system throughout the world does not reflect the age we live in or the needs of society. It was designed for the Industrial Revolution and is 200 yrs out of date! However, I expect due to the person to person communication at that time emotional intellegance was everyday thinking! Our young generation are being robbed!
One side of emotional intelligence can be the ability to care and connect or emphatise with the loved one, which is an enriching experience. But not easy to control negative emotions because this is a part of being human... we can try to be always positive but this means fighting and faking our emotions. Perhaps we should learn to tolerate pain, but acceptance cannot be always good for our system.
rainbowdream2017: If I may add, I know what she said about eyes contact with children is true (because I've studdied about it to work with children ) and it is much more to it then just eyes contact, like spending quality time in playing , communicating with children in daily activities, the way we relate to them with loving patience, satting healthy boundaries, that gives them sense of sequrity and safety, and the key is consistency...but in our busy daily life - where many parents works full time to pay off house mortgage etc. not many have luxuries of time and patience with children.
I think she meant that in school environment they try to ENCOURAGE man / boys to express their emotions....and she disagree with any force.
Share with is, what is your view, why many man have troubles to interpret emotions ?
#1. I APPRECIATE the courtesy, Rainy! But (with ME, anyway), you NEVER "need" permission to state your thoughts/feelings. It makes MY life easier, IF I don't have to ASK for them!
#2. I DIDN'T KNOW you worked with children! What age group? And in what way?
#3. I'm NOT familiar with any work, on eye contact. But it's VERY OLD news about "quality time" improving the development of children. (At least, primate and mammalian children.) SOME LONG time ago (I can't dredge up the date, or even the study, off the top of my head, now), a study was done with both human and primate babies. And it's a documented fact that children who aren't held and interacted with, show poor development, and adjustment to "social norms". And, with primate babies, it was shown that if a child was removed from contact with other entities (it's own species, or others) at an early enough age, even though it received food and water, it would die. Humans and primates, at least, REQUIRE "emotional" sustenance, just as much as they do food and water! And I SUSPECT that THAT is true of many OTHER animals, as well. ESPECIALLY the higher mammals, ie: whales, porpoises, bears, elephants, etc.
#4. I can understand you statement "the key is consistency", Rainy. But I have some thoughts of my own, on that topic, that you might want to consider. Consistency is good, in that it provides a framework within which, one can "build" a/their life. But, as I'm sure you're aware of, life can toss you curve balls. Even though you've got your life well "organised", you've have created a satisfactory "routine", life has a tendency to throw monkey wrenches into the BEST well oiled machines! We, here in America, have what we call "Murphy's Law". And Murphy's Law states that "If something CAN go wrong, it WILL go wrong! And USUALLY at the WORST POSSIBLE moment!" and a person needs to be prepared to deal with those "emergencies". And, if one has become USED TO/DEPENDENT on that routine, the "consistency" of their life, dealing with life's EMERGENCIES can be problematic. So a person NEEDS to learn how to "ad lib". "Think on your feet", as the old saying puts it. NOT be constrained in their thinking, by the "consistency/organization" they've created, in their life. So, while I agree that having a consistent format, in/to their life, they ALSO need to experience BREAKING the rules! Consistency teaches moral values (among other things). But life is FULL of "judgement" calls. Where there ISN'T any clear cut choice. So a child ALSO needs a little "chaos" in their life, in order to prepare them for those UNSCRIPTED moments, in life. To get them USED to making those judgment calls. So that they won't be stuck, trying to figure out what to DO, when ACTION is required, RIGHT NOW! it's all about LEARNING HOW to make choices, and MAKING those choices! One problem I perceive, in a LOT of people, NOT just children! They DON'T KNOW HOW to make choices, for themselves! So they get dragged along by the weight/momentum of OTHERS! INSTEAD of choosing what BEST FITS THEIR circumstances! And THAT will OFTEN land them in trouble. Out of letters!
rainbow this was someones answer to a question online in regards to E
Say for example, you have a little kid who won't stop screaming. A person with low Emotional Intelligenceight scream back at the kids. A person with high EI would look at the child and speak in a normal tone of voice, and distract him. Say "when you stop screaming, we can play with barbies" ... whatever.
Another example would be a guy who calls a girl he likes, every 5 minutes, being unaware, that that makes him come off as desperate. A person with high EI might call her once a day with a specific purpose.
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Ignoring or suppressing your own emotions doesn't mean you are not understanding them, on a contrary.
Why would anyone want to suppress an emotion they doesn't understand, it's not a threat to them if they don't know where it will take them.
It's up to their personal choice if they want to show their ability to connect on a deep level...
JMO
Department of Veterans Affairs examined solders who where engaging in emotional avoidance, related to war traumas. Interesting stuff to read.
From what I have read - they need training management in how to handle emotional issues to do better, because emotional expression is an important part of our coping capability and this solders with war traumas run the risk that one day the volcano will erupt with a vengeance, if is not treated...the same thing might be with Syrian refugees or any other victims of war traumas...but apart from this extrime experiences of war traumas , even without war, life is hard enough...