RE: Im your genie.

I know that I am not asking for much but can I have:
Colin Firth
Robert De Niro
Liam Neeson

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Change is difficult but progressive! handshake

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Up to the 17 Century Ireland had the Brehon laws which were amongst the most progressive in the world. There was total equality between men and women. There was divorce, there was gay rights and priests got married. The English came then and brought their common laws when they left the RCC took over. It wasn’t until the past 100 yrs that the RCC got a grip... a brief history...

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Hi DeDee
I just stopped going when all the stuff came out about the abuse of innocent children. When I saw that over 200 priests were involved in Dublin alone. I often go into a church to pray and have no issue with that. I believe in God, a lovely compassionate one and not a bible bashing hyprocate... I know lovely priests too and I feel that they have been so let down so badly by their peers. Being Religious or being a Christian are very different things to me.

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Yes! Statistics are just that. To give some comparison of change I compared statistics over a decade giving same scenario.
Out of interest, what happens in your country during a crisis pregnancy, say worst case, where a mother’s life is in danger?

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Yes, historically Ireland was Religious and most Irish people would consider themselves RC. Fortunately, the population of Ireland is now a well educated one and they don’t see the need to go to Church to be inspired or brainwashed by the pulpit. When a nation becamos educated they are capable of forming their own views from the huge amount of information available to them. A lot of people voted No because it went against every bone in their body and not out of the fear of hell! The DUP are Northern Ireland, Unionists... Northern Ireland did not vote yesterday!

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Ireland is not religious at all. Religion was about the s*xual and vicious abuse by the clergy on children. We are not a nation of hypocrites and don’t go to church any more. What we are is a very spiritual nation. We vote because we are compassionate and can walk in the shoes of others. We voted overwhelmingly for same sex marriage so that people with different s*xual orientations were not treated as different citizens.
Yesterday we voted overwhelmingly for women in distress. For years women travelled to the UK for abortions so thousands of women were accessing abortion services. Sex Education is showing great results. Abortion has reduced from 7000 a decade ago to 3500 not. Under 20 has reduced from 1100 to 200. When you see figures of 40,000 as stated by a NY poster with similar populations, you will see that abortion is not used as contraception in Ireland. Voting Yes was about giving a woman choice. Voting No meant things stayed the same - even for women in severe crisis pregnancies...

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

I totally understand where you are coming from but England cannot be the solution to an Irish problem. Those poor girls making that awful journey to the UK (where their treatment was second to none) and that awful journey home. It cannot have been easy. Abortion has dropped by 50% this past decade. Girls will still go to the UK but at least the difficult cases can be treated at home! The Drs have direction now and we will be in compliance with Human Rights..

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

An exit poll, published by the Irish Times, suggested that the margin of victory for the Yes side in today’s referendum will be 68 per cent to 32 per cent.
It’s about compassion and it’s about solidarity with and for women in crisis!

RE: Your Sign As A Smell :)

I was born on a cusp of Gemini and Cancer... laugh laugh

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

When it comes to issues like fatal fetal abnormalities everyone has to go with their own level of strength. A test on the fluid should diagnose any severe abnormalities. I do not think that babies with Down syndrome or any healthy babies should be aborted.

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

No! The baby’s chance of survival was zero all along. It was a very distressing case! Her body was decomposing. Her family had to fight for her dignity in death!

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

You have every right to vote with your conscience!

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Do you realize that babies that are aborted at 20 weeks are much loved and wanted babies that are very ill or their mothers have become too ill to continue with the pregnancy.

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

As explained by Missha, this referendum Yes vote was about choice. For instance, in 2014, a young mother died at 15 weeks and she was kept alive on a machine for over 3 weeks because of the babies right to life. The mother was clinically dead and it was very distressful for all involved as her body was deteriorating. Her parents had to go to the high court to have the machine switched off so that their daughters body could repose with dignity rather than being used as a incubator for a baby that was not viable. Can you imagine the distress for her family that had to go to court to fight for their daughters human rights when they should be grieving. She also had a young child. Can you imagine the distress of the medical team trying to keep a body alive for 3 weeks that was clinically dead! I had that mum and her family in mind today when I voted because I never want it to happen to another family again!

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Try MENSA or the OECD when producing figures that are reliable and accurate rather than pulling them off the net!
I didn’t give you permission to make judgements on me, play ball scold

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

I find many of your ramblings very parochial and ill informed. According to MENSA, the average IQ is between 85 and 114. The UK is in the 90s. And for that matter, IQ, which is mostly based on patterns and logic, does not equate to Intelligence. For your information, Ireland is a very modern forward thinking country with a highly educated population. Yes! We do export some of our best brains to the UK.

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Well, it is not a battle of two absolutes. Situations surrounding abortion are very complex. From withdraw of ones significant other (Yes! Fathers do have their say; subtly) to financial implications, career advancement, failure of birth control, fatal fetal abnormalities, cancer, rape, incest etc...
Incidentally, of the 3,265 Irish women recorded having abortions in the UK just over 200 are under 20 yrs old.
Abortion is very personal to each mother, she will make the best decision for herself and her baby at that time.

RE: Abortion referendum in Ireland

Well done on informing yourself!
What we are asked to vote for is choice. If we vote No it remains as is... if we vote Yes we give a woman the choice whither she chooses to have her baby aborted or not! Personally, I believe that any woman that is faced with the prospect of having an abortion does not take that decision likely. A baby needs to be brought into a safe space. There is also life after birth!

RE: Why do long relationships sometimes breakdown; your opinion of the #1 factor?

Falling in love is a very magical thing which many are forgetting..
However, you have to be vulnerable to fall in love.
Some see vulnerability as a weakness rather than as a strength which it is..
So, many are weak and prefer to stay single rather than put their heart on the line.

RE: Why do long relationships sometimes breakdown; your opinion of the #1 factor?

Too many people seeking external validation of how sexy, likeable etc, etc they are rather than being comfortable with who they are... observe any man or woman who seeks out affairs and you will find quiet a distructive personality. The person who is happy within will not seek external vadalation... angel

RE: Why do long relationships sometimes breakdown; your opinion of the #1 factor?

My parents were married for one month short of 60 yrs and died a few weeks apart. They never fell out of love.
They put each other first, above everything else.
Never in any way disrespectful to each other.
No power thing going on, always helped each other.
Done lots of stuff together.
They were truly happy in each other’s company.
So I suppose these are the factors that contribute to lasting togetherness and happiness.

RE: Anonymous messages

Live outside yourself lips

RE: Quotes, passages, words or wisdom

You are only confined by the walls
that you build yourself...... hug

RE: Reversing direction : a Tale of Two Situations

If a man/woman just sees candy that is all they are after and that is their choice. There are men/women looking for pearls too. What we have to deduce .... are we a pearl attracted to candy ... that’s when the problems arise. heart wings

RE: Reversing direction : a Tale of Two Situations

You are so right. However, sometimes when people have been hurt they put a hard shell around themselves. It takes a very special and patient man to break it down bit by bit. To them, falling in love is very a vulnerable, fearful and exposing process so it’s easier not to deal with it. Everyone should take the chance to love with all their heart! handshake

RE: Feminism

I fully agree with you Rainbow, but we must first tackle our problems at home before anywhere else.
For example, Ireland (and this is just a representation of the worldwide problem) has a population of 4.7 million people. Approx. 10 women are murdered in a domestic violence incident by their significant other (SO) each year. No statistics available relating to suicide; as a consequence. Thousands of women and children are made homeless whilst the (SO) remains in the family home because the Police are not doing their job. (this may change now with The Domestic Violence Bill 2017. The perpetrator is more than often a lazy Narcissist thug addicted to whatever. She is usually the breadwinner with no log of incidents, no doctors reports and no witnesses; because she is dealing with it in silence. He gets rent/mortgage supplement and legal aid whilst she pays rent for a home for her family and pays a solicitor. So, it pays to be a violent lazy thug!! Why aren’t these murders/perpetrators horsewhipped at the least??? In the event of being imprisoned for MANSLAUGHTER they are released 2.5 yrs. before others serving for similar crimes.

The estimated economic cost of domestic violence to the Irish economy is €2.2billion a year.
This is based on the Council of Europe (COE) figure that domestic violence costs each
member state €555 per citizen annually in policing, health bills, lost productivity and court procedures. So, it is in everyone’s interest, men and women, to tackle this problem. And as a consequence, the ripple effect will protect others in similar abusive circumstances like you highlighted.

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