Should laws that restrict access to guns be abandoned? (97)
galrads: Who is yourselves?
americans...those are the ones killing each other in mass shootings aren't they....nothing is being done about it so yall might as well just have one big shootout and get it over with...maybe the kids will be spared this time.....
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Conrad73: it is a Natural Right,stems from the Right to defend yourself!
Now,go cure your Hoplophobia!
how is going into a place and massacring children and innocent people defending yourself.......Now,go cure your Hoplophobia!
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Conrad73: You're still wrong!
What part of Shall Not Be Infringed do you not understand?
Besides,the Amendment does not confer a Right,it merely spells out what Rights the People do have!
Something hard to understand for a Collectivist like you!
Besides,all through the Constitution The People is The Individual,yet somehow you are trying to tell me that in the case of the 2nd that meaning has suddenly changed?
Go tell that to the Ferryman!
tell me what happens when there are well formed militias in the u.s and why that part is not upheld then making it a farce and an excuse to carry a gun that is for no other reason than to kill......and also tell me how you can stand by mass shooting after mass shooting watching innocent people especially children be mowed down and still stand for little to no gun control.....What part of Shall Not Be Infringed do you not understand?
Besides,the Amendment does not confer a Right,it merely spells out what Rights the People do have!
Something hard to understand for a Collectivist like you!
Besides,all through the Constitution The People is The Individual,yet somehow you are trying to tell me that in the case of the 2nd that meaning has suddenly changed?
Go tell that to the Ferryman!
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Sir_T: Ya, they pretty much think the 70,000 gun injuries and 35k gun deaths a year is an acceptable price to pay for their ability to stroke a long, oily, hard, black, smooth, weapon in their hand, and feel it pulse with power again and again and... Woah, its gotten warm in here for some reason.
I await with eager anticipation a post from you, Mr T, that does not use phallic imagery.......Is there something we should know?
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You know, I take it all back. Meal Team Six? They are the BEST!! I support them all the way!
I salute you good sirs! 'MERICA!!!
I salute you good sirs! 'MERICA!!!
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No.
If tighter gun law restrictions were implemented in America resulting in
less availability and distribution of guns, there would be a dramatic decrease in gun related deaths.
It’s not rocket science, just sheer blardy common sense.
If tighter gun law restrictions were implemented in America resulting in
less availability and distribution of guns, there would be a dramatic decrease in gun related deaths.
It’s not rocket science, just sheer blardy common sense.
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sell all the guns you want, just quit selling ammo
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charles_nz: "Justify gun ownership"?
The N.R.A. wants to justify gun ownership among law-abiding citizens.
That explains the no paperwprk gun shows and the constant lobbying against background checks and any restrictions on gun ownership. combined with "NRA TV" whose sole purpose is to persuade people into buying more hardware. And make gun manufacturers more profitsThe N.R.A. wants to justify gun ownership among law-abiding citizens.
[quoteAs opposed to a "gun control" regime where only the criminals have guns. Pray tell why you think this is preferable?That might be a point if it resembled anywhere on planet Earth. And I'm saying that from a country that had ACTUAL TERRORISTS active in it for quite a while.
Fact is that only 20% or so of American households own a gun, and somehow society has not collapsed into the Walking Dead becasue of the lack of beer bellied nuts holding the line against the darkness.
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PeKaatje: Well, tonight I was cycling and I passed two women with big dogs. One tried to attack me, and he wasn't on the leash. He raced after me for maybe 200 meters before I was able to kick him properly in the ribs, hope I busted some. .
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charles_nz: No doubt the loony left will want to ban dogs next.
Oh wait, didn't they do exactly that during the Cultural Revolution?Now there is a lesson in where Political Correctness takes you!
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oh wait...I guess the right doesn't mind their children being mowed down by gunfire....thoughts and prayers for the next victims of the mass shootings to come....
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M4_Mischief: oh wait...I guess the right doesn't mind their children being mowed down by gunfire....thoughts and prayers for the next victims of the mass shootings to come....
Its a sacrifice they are prepared for someone else to make.Besides every mass shooting is fake donchaknow!! That way they don't have to deal with being the only country to have this crap multiple times a week.
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Sir_T: That explains the no paperwprk gun shows and the constant lobbying against background checks and any restrictions on gun ownership. combined with "NRA TV" whose sole purpose is to persuade people into buying more hardware. And make gun manufacturers more profits
[quoteAs opposed to a "gun control" regime where only the criminals have guns. Pray tell why you think this is preferable?That might be a point if it resembled anywhere on planet Earth. And I'm saying that from a country that had ACTUAL TERRORISTS active in it for quite a while.
Fact is that only 20% or so of American households own a gun, and somehow society has not collapsed into the Walking Dead becasue of the lack of beer bellied nuts holding the line against the darkness.
John Oliver?[quoteAs opposed to a "gun control" regime where only the criminals have guns. Pray tell why you think this is preferable?That might be a point if it resembled anywhere on planet Earth. And I'm saying that from a country that had ACTUAL TERRORISTS active in it for quite a while.
Fact is that only 20% or so of American households own a gun, and somehow society has not collapsed into the Walking Dead becasue of the lack of beer bellied nuts holding the line against the darkness.
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charles_nz: You seem to use a lot of obscenities in your posts?
Anyway, just wanted to point out that false flag operations certainly exist, although I agree with you that these mass-killings are not examples of false flags...... real people do get killed, no question about it.
Perhaps we should be asking ourselves if it isn't time to start censoring violent video games where kids are encouraged to think it's "cool" to shoot as many folks as they can.....
I think I can post anyway I like....expletives or not....we need to get rid of the thought that guns are the answer to ones problems....I don't think its video games....I think its society itself that has created so much mental illness by convincing people that the only way to exist and to be somebody is to constantly be busy or you aren't valued....its the incessant pressure to go go go with no value placed on relaxing and recouping....even kids are shoved from activity to activity with very little down time....Anyway, just wanted to point out that false flag operations certainly exist, although I agree with you that these mass-killings are not examples of false flags...... real people do get killed, no question about it.
Perhaps we should be asking ourselves if it isn't time to start censoring violent video games where kids are encouraged to think it's "cool" to shoot as many folks as they can.....
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HexagonKeySet: IMHO it's a fundamental right to bear arms that was agreed upon and placed in the original US Constitution by the Founding Fathers.
They were a particular wise and far seeing bunch ... personally, I feel it's a slippery slope when anyone begins to surrender their rights as it makes it easier to give away the next, and the next and the next.
At the end of the day it seems that the terrible things done with guns are carried out by persons with criminal intent ( who'd find weapons on the BM anyway ) with inflamed passions and / or unbalanced minds that impair them from behaving reasonably or logically.
dem states are doing that now im losing faith in the trump admin.They were a particular wise and far seeing bunch ... personally, I feel it's a slippery slope when anyone begins to surrender their rights as it makes it easier to give away the next, and the next and the next.
At the end of the day it seems that the terrible things done with guns are carried out by persons with criminal intent ( who'd find weapons on the BM anyway ) with inflamed passions and / or unbalanced minds that impair them from behaving reasonably or logically.
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reb56: dem states are doing that now im losing faith in the trump admin.
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charles_nz: You seem to use a lot of obscenities in your posts?
Anyway, just wanted to point out that false flag operations certainly exist, although I agree with you that these mass-killings are not examples of false flags...... real people do get killed, no question about it.
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Anyway, just wanted to point out that false flag operations certainly exist, although I agree with you that these mass-killings are not examples of false flags...... real people do get killed, no question about it.
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Note that in the above post, the emphasis in my quote was not mine.
But yes, people all die eventually of one thing or another.
But I think (or hope) we can all agree that dying prematurely in a mass shooting is a tragedy, and frankly unaccaptable.
The difference of opinion is what we do about it. To my mind, advocating gun control makes as much sense as suggesting we abolish cars because of the accident toll.
But yes, people all die eventually of one thing or another.
But I think (or hope) we can all agree that dying prematurely in a mass shooting is a tragedy, and frankly unaccaptable.
The difference of opinion is what we do about it. To my mind, advocating gun control makes as much sense as suggesting we abolish cars because of the accident toll.
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BerrySmoothie No.
If tighter gun law restrictions were implemented in America resulting in
less availability and distribution of guns, there would be a dramatic decrease in gun related deaths.
It’s not rocket science, just sheer blardy common sense.
The case for a dramatic increase in gun related deaths . . .
There are more registered guns in the US than there are pets. There are more pets than people. There are 340,000,000 + people. That’s a lot of registered guns. I bet there are multi millions more unregistered guns. In Texas you can shot a person breaking into your neighbor’s house as well. When the police show up, your gun better be registered. Implementing restrictions on the availability and distribution of guns might help against the people who bother to obey the law and register their guns. MS13 doesn’t register guns. I think law-abiding citizenry shoot and kill far less people than the criminals. If laws against guns are passsed, the number of illegal guns becomes a lot greater. They can’t police the multi million number of illegal guns as it is . . . If laws were successful is stopping the introduction of ever legal or illegal gun in the US, you still have to implement new laws to recover all the guns that are already in the US . . . good luck with that.
If tighter gun law restrictions were implemented in America resulting in
less availability and distribution of guns, there would be a dramatic decrease in gun related deaths.
It’s not rocket science, just sheer blardy common sense.
The case for a dramatic increase in gun related deaths . . .
There are more registered guns in the US than there are pets. There are more pets than people. There are 340,000,000 + people. That’s a lot of registered guns. I bet there are multi millions more unregistered guns. In Texas you can shot a person breaking into your neighbor’s house as well. When the police show up, your gun better be registered. Implementing restrictions on the availability and distribution of guns might help against the people who bother to obey the law and register their guns. MS13 doesn’t register guns. I think law-abiding citizenry shoot and kill far less people than the criminals. If laws against guns are passsed, the number of illegal guns becomes a lot greater. They can’t police the multi million number of illegal guns as it is . . . If laws were successful is stopping the introduction of ever legal or illegal gun in the US, you still have to implement new laws to recover all the guns that are already in the US . . . good luck with that.
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It will be noticed that the Cockrum v. State, 24 Texas 394 court case he cited talks about rights bieng handed down by the state, nothing about the 2nd decleratory of existing rights. In fact, the language "Decleratory of existing rights" was used in the debates over passage of the 14th ammendment, not the second, which is ironic as Conrad would probably be all about repeal of the 14th.