Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes. ( Archived) (47)

Feb 9, 2019 2:47 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Jaavisst
JaavisstJaavisstLjusdal, Gavleborg Sweden96 Threads 22 Polls 707 Posts
They struck a deal with the Bin Ladens after Sadams attack on Kuwait to have US troops intervene and hand over the oil wells to the Saudis in the aftermath. They screwed Bin Laden and never left the region. No wonder he got pissed and started al qaida.
With the help of Tony Blair they also orchestrated a bogus attack on Iraq claiming weapons of mass destruction. UN did nothing to stop it.
Kuwait by the bay is not a real country, it was constructed by the British to control oil supply.
How much money did the Bush family make I wonder and how many people have died to keep cheap oil flowing west?
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Feb 9, 2019 3:36 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
The international criminal court system. ICC.

I think it was bill clinton that signed us onto it so Sr. could never be held liable.

Junior was smart enough to pull us back out of it.

No war crimes committed. Only war at times.


We don't need to be a part of the ICC. Russia and China are also NOT signed into the ICC. They aren't the only ones.

The idea of any type of ICC is ludicrous. There has never been, will be, or can be, anything humane about war.
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Feb 9, 2019 3:39 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
Like it or not, the Bush family didn't make any money from those oil fields.

The federal government has zero say in oil any where in the world but the U.S. and our own oil reserves.
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Feb 9, 2019 3:42 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
That's simple, the USA has declined the legality of the tribunal in The Hague.
I believe it was one of the Bushes that said that no USA soldier would ever be send to the Hague for warcrimes.
The USA have so much power that they think they can dictate the world and they don't care about others.
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Feb 9, 2019 3:44 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
Iraq's interference during the start of the war on terrorism is what put them back on the radar. Their facilities were actually set for short term use change overs.

I don't blame Bush for going back. It was preventative as well as preemptive.


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Feb 9, 2019 4:03 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Jaavisst: They struck a deal with the Bin Ladens after Sadams attack on Kuwait to have US troops intervene and hand over the oil wells to the Saudis in the aftermath. They screwed Bin Laden and never left the region. No wonder he got pissed and started al qaida.
With the help of Tony Blair they also orchestrated a bogus attack on Iraq claiming weapons of mass destruction. UN did nothing to stop it.
Kuwait by the bay is not a real country, it was constructed by the British to control oil supply.
How much money did the Bush family make I wonder and how many people have died to keep cheap oil flowing west?
Why,it isn't Jovisst,and still hung-up on the Bushes!laugh
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Feb 9, 2019 5:19 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Jaavisst: They struck a deal with the Bin Ladens after Sadams attack on Kuwait to have US troops intervene and hand over the oil wells to the Saudis in the aftermath. They screwed Bin Laden and never left the region. No wonder he got pissed and started al qaida.
With the help of Tony Blair they also orchestrated a bogus attack on Iraq claiming weapons of mass destruction. UN did nothing to stop it.
Kuwait by the bay is not a real country, it was constructed by the British to control oil supply.
How much money did the Bush family make I wonder and how many people have died to keep cheap oil flowing west?
The same thing here with the government stealing from the retired in the past, and now the funds have insufficent money, or so they claim...
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Feb 9, 2019 10:22 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Jaavisst
JaavisstJaavisstLjusdal, Gavleborg Sweden96 Threads 22 Polls 707 Posts
Conrad73: Why,it isn't Jovisst,and still hung-up on the Bushes!
. I can't remember my old password!
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Feb 10, 2019 2:42 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
The same reason that Winston Churchill and Harry Truman never were.....

People who win wars (no matter what means they used, to do so) are never held accountable for atrocities they commit.

Been this way since the beginning of human history.
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Feb 10, 2019 3:07 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
marlindap
marlindapmarlindapClearwater, British Columbia Canada585 Posts
because certain countries are allowed to start wars.
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Feb 10, 2019 3:58 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
marlindap
marlindapmarlindapClearwater, British Columbia Canada585 Posts
I just find it so sad when someone tells you who your enemy is and one listens. All those people are potential friends.
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Feb 10, 2019 4:00 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
charles_nz: The same reason that Winston Churchill and Harry Truman never were.....

People who win wars (no matter what means they used, to do so) are never held accountable for atrocities they commit.

Been this way since the beginning of human history.
Churchill was forced to fight the Germans, they attacked the UK.
If the Germans had won, now everyone was talking that ugly german language. Schweinefleisch, Schweinhund, Wir haben es nicht gewusst etc.
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Feb 10, 2019 4:20 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
PeKaatje: Churchill was forced to fight the Germans, they attacked the UK.
If the Germans had won, now everyone was talking that ugly german language. Schweinefleisch, Schweinhund, Wir haben es nicht gewusst etc.
you forgot Schei$$kerl and Kleiner Schei$$er.laugh
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Feb 11, 2019 2:27 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
PeKaatje: Churchill was forced to fight the Germans, they attacked the UK.
Actually, this is simply incorrect.

You will find that WWII began on 3rd September, 1939, when Britain and France declared war on Germany. Not, repeat NOT, the other way around.

They did so in order to honour an ill-considered guarantee they had given regarding Poland's independence some time earlier. After 50 million people had died, supposedly for Poland's independence, they then handed over Poland to the Soviet Union for the next 50 years.

Yup, that went well.

The fact that so many people (including you) seem to think Germany attacked Britain first, is indicative of the validity of my initial point. The victors create the history.
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Feb 12, 2019 7:44 AM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Bombing Iraq was a war crime!

Bin Laden wasn't there!

WMD's weren't there!

The hijackers were Saudi's.
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Feb 12, 2019 10:28 AM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
Lyndon B Johnson, he did same with Vietnam

then Richard Nixon
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Feb 12, 2019 3:18 PM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
methuzelah: Lyndon B Johnson, he did same with Vietnam

then Richard Nixon
In fairness, Nixon was the one who pulled the USA out of Vietnam.

In retrospect, Johnson should never have got the USA involved in the first place, in the war between North & South Vietnam, nor should he have bullied and cajoled other Western nations into also getting involved.

That said, the Vietnam War remains a glaring example of communist aggression against a non-communist neighbour, and one of the biggest tragedies of the second half of the twentieth century.
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Feb 13, 2019 7:10 AM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Kidwell_
Kidwell_Kidwell_South East GBA Province, Buenos Aires Argentina17 Threads 2 Polls 767 Posts
Kidwell_: The names are not important . Bush, Cheney, Obama. They are all just puppets. They follow orders from the men in black with briefcases who have the power and means to put you as president or take you out if you don't play along.
This is why voting in an election is one huge waste of time. It does not matter who u vote for, the winner was already selected beforehand. Voting is an illusion nothing more. An illusion that your participation somehow makes a difference. When in reality is all orchestrated.
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Feb 13, 2019 8:46 AM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
Jaavisst
JaavisstJaavisstLjusdal, Gavleborg Sweden96 Threads 22 Polls 707 Posts
Kidwell_: This is why voting in an election is one huge waste of time. It does not matter who u vote for, the winner was already selected beforehand. Voting is an illusion nothing more. An illusion that your participation somehow makes a difference. When in reality is all orchestrated.
thumbs up Finally we agree on something.
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Feb 13, 2019 10:05 AM CST Can anyone explain why Bush senior and junior never where sent to Haag tribunal for war crimes.
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
charles_nz: In fairness, Nixon was the one who pulled the USA out of Vietnam.

In retrospect, Johnson should never have got the USA involved in the first place, in the war between North & South Vietnam, nor should he have bullied and cajoled other Western nations into also getting involved.

That said, the Vietnam War remains a glaring example of communist aggression against a non-communist neighbour, and one of the biggest tragedies of the second half of the twentieth century.
Vietnam had to be together as one country, not divided. Korea needs to be one country.
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