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Sep 17, 2020 3:26 PM CST Time
where does time not excist?

ooocheers
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Sep 17, 2020 3:31 PM CST Time
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
Watch this... good video.

Time is NOT real: Physicists show EVERYTHING happens at the same time.

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Sep 17, 2020 4:12 PM CST Time
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
pedro27: where does time not excist?

ooo
Time and space as we have learned to perceive it does not exist. applause
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Sep 17, 2020 4:19 PM CST Time
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
pedro27: where does time not excist?

ooo
Don't listen to the others pedro, If you want to see time just look at your watch
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Sep 17, 2020 4:20 PM CST Time
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
Selenite: Time and space as we have learned to perceive it does not exist.
That's just an excuse the Spanish use because they're always late
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Sep 17, 2020 10:40 PM CST Time
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Bnaughty: Don't listen to the others pedro, If you want to see time just look at your watch
laugh laugh laugh
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Sep 18, 2020 12:13 AM CST Time
AI_1984
AI_1984AI_1984Pueblo del Mar, Murcia Spain12 Threads 769 Posts
pedro27: where does time not excist?

ooo
That's right, time and space do not exist.
They are a human concept!
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Sep 18, 2020 2:29 AM CST Time
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Time is only there because the world is turning round and round.
So I guess if the earth would stand still, we had no time. No winter, no summer, no autumn or spring. Also no year. Cause all this was thought off by the changing of the temperatures and seasons. If the earth stood still, always some trees would loose leaves while others just starts to form new leaves at the same time. Birds would have youngsters all the year. Etc. Or: Maybe there wouldn't be life at all, or only on a small part of the world.
So, just because the world is turning round we see all these wonders that most of us see as normal.
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Sep 18, 2020 2:30 AM CST Time
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,465 Posts
Bnaughty: Don't listen to the others pedro, If you want to see time just look at your watch
thumbs up laugh laugh laugh
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Sep 18, 2020 3:03 AM CST Time
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
At the speed of light.

But our existence depends on gravity fighting this losing battle against time. It's a brief candle this balance of gravity and time. And society will end once you get people viewing themselves as beings a of pure light. All form and matter disintegrating into a situation where nothing happens. The end of time, the end of history.
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Sep 18, 2020 3:49 AM CST Time
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Bnaughty: That's just an excuse the Spanish use because they're always late
laugh laugh laugh thanks for my second morning laugh!
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Sep 18, 2020 4:20 AM CST Time
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
It's interesting to note that a Buddhist perspective on time is shared by many of our greatest philosophers and scientists.
But within Buddhism it's agreed, the topic is too complex to understand with just a fleeting study. This is a short extract from a very interesting journal.


The concept of time in philosophy: A comparative study between Theravada Buddhist and Henri Bergson's concept of time from Thai philosophers' perspectives


Concept of Time in Theravada Buddhist Philosophy

According to Buddhist Philosophy, time appears in our consciousness during the process of knowing, which consists of the existence of matter first, then, the interaction between matters, then, functions of our consciousness (our senses), then, the process of knowing that occur in our consciousness and finally, the feeling that occurs in our consciousness.

Time therefore, is subjective because its existence depends upon our consciousness to acknowledge it. Time is relative to our consciousness through our perceptions of the world via our senses (Bunnag, 2016, p. 89).

Moreover, Buddhist philosophy suggests that time does not have real existence. It is only a concept with no inherent existence because it belongs to the relative truth of the world of experience from our consciousness. Each of our consciousness (or thought-moment) according to Abhidhamma (Narada Maha Thera, 1987, p. 215) consists of three phases, with the first phase called the occurring or genesis (uppada), the second phase is change or development (thiti) and the last phase is cessation or dissolution (bhanga). One consciousness is followed by another. The past is gone; the future has not yet to come. We live only for the moment of Now which is, thus, the transitional stage from the future to the past. Buddhist scripture states clearly that “Time is a concept derived from this or that phenomenon. And it does not exist by nature, it is merely a concept” (Narada Maha Thera, 1987, p. 216).

Furthermore, Buddhist philosophy suggests that time is mind-dependent because time has no existence outside of phenomena and their observers. Time must be perceived by a mind (consciousness) in relation to successions of events that occur to a particular system (that is, planes of existence, such as heaven, earth, or hell) (Promtha, 1988, pp. 54–60). It follows that without a mind to observe the changes of the conditioned things, the perception of time cannot be realized (Bunnag, 2016, p. 90).

Finally, the concept of time in Buddhist philosophy suggests that without the conditioned things, there will be no concept of time. The conditioned things related to time as witness to their unstable and changing condition which suggests that time does not exist separately from the conditioned things. This relationship does not mean that time is a quality of the conditioned things, but it indicates that time is only a concept invented by consciousness from perceiving the becoming process of the conditioned things. It follows that without the becoming process of the conditioned things, there is no time, and without time, there is no past, present, and future (Bunnag, 2016, p. 91). The only existence would be only the unconditioned things that exist beyond the concept of time (Promtha, 1988, p. 59).

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Sep 18, 2020 4:28 AM CST Time
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
pedro27: where does time not excist?

ooo
When you talk about becoming a white minority by the year 2066. Live for today these selfish little narcissists from the new age will say. And yet if you were talk of other races then the future certainly does exist. The future doesn't exist for barren, bankrupt treacherous new agers talking about their way of life.
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Sep 18, 2020 4:51 AM CST Time
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
ChesneyChrist: When you talk about becoming a white minority by the year 2066. Live for today these selfish little narcissists from the new age will say. And yet if you were talk of other races then the future certainly does exist. The future doesn't exist for barren, bankrupt treacherous new agers talking about their way of life.
laugh

Are Bhuddists new agers too? grin
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Sep 18, 2020 4:52 AM CST Time
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
bodleing2: It's interesting to note that a Buddhist perspective on time is shared by many of our greatest philosophers and scientists.
But within Buddhism it's agreed, the topic is too complex to understand with just a fleeting study. This is a short extract from a very interesting journal.


The concept of time in philosophy: A comparative study between Theravada Buddhist and Henri Bergson's concept of time from Thai philosophers' perspectives


Concept of Time in Theravada Buddhist Philosophy

According to Buddhist Philosophy, time appears in our consciousness during the process of knowing, which consists of the existence of matter first, then, the interaction between matters, then, functions of our consciousness (our senses), then, the process of knowing that occur in our consciousness and finally, the feeling that occurs in our consciousness.

Time therefore, is subjective because its existence depends upon our consciousness to acknowledge it. Time is relative to our consciousness through our perceptions of the world via our senses (Bunnag, 2016, p. 89).

Moreover, Buddhist philosophy suggests that time does not have real existence. It is only a concept with no inherent existence because it belongs to the relative truth of the world of experience from our consciousness. Each of our consciousness (or thought-moment) according to Abhidhamma (Narada Maha Thera, 1987, p. 215) consists of three phases, with the first phase called the occurring or genesis (uppada), the second phase is change or development (thiti) and the last phase is cessation or dissolution (bhanga). One consciousness is followed by another. The past is gone; the future has not yet to come. We live only for the moment of Now which is, thus, the transitional stage from the future to the past. Buddhist scripture states clearly that “Time is a concept derived from this or that phenomenon. And it does not exist by nature, it is merely a concept” (Narada Maha Thera, 1987, p. 216).

Furthermore, Buddhist philosophy suggests that time is mind-dependent because time has no existence outside of phenomena and their observers. Time must be perceived by a mind (consciousness) in relation to successions of events that occur to a particular system (that is, planes of existence, such as heaven, earth, or hell) (Promtha, 1988, pp. 54–60). It follows that without a mind to observe the changes of the conditioned things, the perception of time cannot be realized (Bunnag, 2016, p. 90).

Finally, the concept of time in Buddhist philosophy suggests that without the conditioned things, there will be no concept of time. The conditioned things related to time as witness to their unstable and changing condition which suggests that time does not exist separately from the conditioned things. This relationship does not mean that time is a quality of the conditioned things, but it indicates that time is only a concept invented by consciousness from perceiving the becoming process of the conditioned things. It follows that without the becoming process of the conditioned things, there is no time, and without time, there is no past, present, and future (Bunnag, 2016, p. 91). The only existence would be only the unconditioned things that exist beyond the concept of time (Promtha, 1988, p. 59).

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What's your experience with time and space Bod?
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Sep 18, 2020 4:57 AM CST Time
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Selenite: Are Bhuddists new agers too?
Yes, 2,500 years new.

grin
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Sep 18, 2020 5:09 AM CST Time
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
bodleing2: Yes, 2,500 years new.
laugh wave
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Sep 18, 2020 5:13 AM CST Time
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Selenite: What's your experience with time and space Bod?
Many years ago, (24th December 1969 and 30th May 1970 two dates that changed my perception of life up to the present day.) I experienced the collapse and total disintegration of time. I totally understood, all that existed was the freeze frame of the present moment which was happening entirely in my mind. Going backwards was easy, just as real, still from the present moment, but still entirely in my mind.
For quite some time I struggled to understand what had happened and I guess it wasn't till many years later and the start of a spiritual journey, answers started to appear, particularly with Buddhist teachings although not just Buddhism.
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Sep 18, 2020 5:33 AM CST Time
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
bodleing2: Many years ago, (24th December 1969 and 30th May 1970 two dates that changed my perception of life up to the present day.) I experienced the collapse and total disintegration of time. I totally understood, all that existed was the freeze frame of the present moment which was happening entirely in my mind. Going backwards was easy, just as real, still from the present moment, but still entirely in my mind.
For quite some time I struggled to understand what had happened and I guess it wasn't till many years later and the start of a spiritual journey, answers started to appear, particularly with Buddhist teachings although not just Buddhism.
Thanks for sharing … What an amazing experience Bod! I'm guessing something huge was happening in your life to have those dates to be so clearly imprinted in your awareness... hug

My awareness of time and space is from experiences like OBE travelling through space and planets etc...
Also being able to "step out of time" so I'm able to physically carry a certain amount of actions that would be normally take at least1 h in about 20 minutes of our human clock but without rushing just totally in "presence" … or driving somewhere and suddenly I'm already there but I couldn't physically be in human clock terms …
Also at one point, upon intention clarity of intention of helping a friend, my hands where at once physically on her neck and back doing healing and I could see through her skin to the injury on one of her top vertebrae, although I was miles away in my own house …

I love the fact we know so little and there is so much out there we have no clue about … yet … yay
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