Electric Vehicle is here to stay ( Archived) (37)

May 9, 2021 10:39 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
Hydrogen power will be for some of transportation for sure/ no pollution but for the rest of us we will go electric soon enough.
But what happens to our vintage cars and motorcycles after. worthless piles of junk or Rebel Riderslaugh danceline buddies stuck
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May 9, 2021 11:06 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
I'm not ready for a wheelchair just yet
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May 10, 2021 12:24 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Mercedes_00: I'm not ready for a wheelchair just yet
All that dancing will wear your bits outlaugh
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May 10, 2021 12:27 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Fadedbluejeans: Hydrogen power will be for some of transportation for sure/ no pollution but for the rest of us we will go electric soon enough.
But what happens to our vintage cars and motorcycles after. worthless piles of junk or Rebel Riders
It's the way to gocheering cheering
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May 10, 2021 4:32 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
now you only need to find enough Lithium,Cobalt ,sundry other Rare Earth Metals and Electricity !laugh
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May 10, 2021 5:21 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Yep.... Gasoline and Diesel are dirty but let's keep:
— stripping the Earth to get the lithium
— then building solar panels that are non recyclable and
— windmills that are non recyclable
— nuclear reactors that are clean and then extremely dirty
......all so we can run an electric car that still cannot make it from Miami to Atlanta without having to stop overnight to recharge
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May 10, 2021 5:28 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
galrads: Yep.... Gasoline and Diesel are dirty but let's keep:
— stripping the Earth to get the lithium
— then building solar panels that are non recyclable and
— windmills that are non recyclable
— nuclear reactors that are clean and then extremely dirty
......all so we can run an electric car that still cannot make it from Miami to Atlanta without having to stop overnight to recharge
Oh Goody,lets!rolling on the floor laughing



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NYT neglected to put a number on the Lithium shortage, but I’ve seen estimates that a 2000% increase in Lithium extraction rates would be required, along with a broad range of other toxic minerals such as Rare Earths (used in high efficiency electric motors). There would be no opportunity to be dainty about ramping up production on that scale – Once easily accessible Lithium brines were exhausted, Lithium miners would have to rip the countryside apart, digging up low grade Lithium containing minerals in vast open cut mines, creating enormous toxic waste dumps in their effort to feed the EV production market.

And none of this would be a one-off – the search and extract process would be ongoing.

Good thing the motive for this proposed wholesale planet wrecking is to save the environment, right?
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May 10, 2021 5:37 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Or how about a bike?
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May 10, 2021 5:44 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Or how about a bike?
Just bought an ebike....it's a game changer.

thumbs up
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May 10, 2021 6:12 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
bodleing2: Just bought an ebike....it's a game changer.
Or how about a bike. The raw power of your own legs like two steel pistons pumping away into a new world, a healthier world. Don't give your legs to batterie made out of children's tears.
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May 10, 2021 6:42 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Or how about a bike. The raw power of your own legs like two steel pistons pumping away into a new world, a healthier world. Don't give your legs to batterie made out of children's tears.
P/Assist ebikes require effort to use. In fact the chances are, due to the fact that you use them more often and cycle many more miles, they actually keep you fitter.
I've cycled regularly for around 60 years, my ebike should ensure i carry on for a few more years to come, especially as its a mountain bike....it's a dream come true for me as most off my cycling is off road and now i can go back to some of the routes i used to do many years ago.

yay
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May 10, 2021 11:47 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
well, I have an e-bike, and it's far from perfect. Where I used to cycle distances of 100 km's-500 km's in a day, now I can hardly ride 30 km's and then I have to stop for 2 hours to reload the batteries. But the reason why I bought it is sometimes I have 2 places in a row to teach with only 30 minutes between and the places are about 8-10 km seperated from each other. On a normal bike I could hardly make it, and if I can make it in time, I would arrive all sweaty. Not Ideal to start teaching.
I have a small garagebox, and only one bike fits inside. So a second bike would have to stand outside all of the time, have no garden either, and stealing bikes is one of the most common crimes in the Netherlands.
In my youth I had a neighbour who used to park his bike next to the railwaystation when going to work, and everyday he came home on a different bike, just what was good enough to cycle the 7 km's on and what wasn't locked to well.

If you are coming to the Netherlands once, you can buy a bike from a drugsdealer for only 25 euro's but the bike will be stolen and if you are caught with the bike, you have serious problems.
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May 10, 2021 12:29 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
PeKaatje: well, I have an e-bike, and it's far from perfect. Where I used to cycle distances of 100 km's-500 km's in a day, now I can hardly ride 30 km's and then I have to stop for 2 hours to reload the batteries. But the reason why I bought it is sometimes I have 2 places in a row to teach with only 30 minutes between and the places are about 8-10 km seperated from each other. On a normal bike I could hardly make it, and if I can make it in time, I would arrive all sweaty. Not Ideal to start teaching.
I have a small garagebox, and only one bike fits inside. So a second bike would have to stand outside all of the time, have no garden either, and stealing bikes is one of the most common crimes in the Netherlands.
In my youth I had a neighbour who used to park his bike next to the railwaystation when going to work, and everyday he came home on a different bike, just what was good enough to cycle the 7 km's on and what wasn't locked to well.

If you are coming to the Netherlands once, you can buy a bike from a drugsdealer for only 25 euro's but the bike will be stolen and if you are caught with the bike, you have serious problems.
100-500km a day.....are you sure???

I know it's flat in the Netherlands, but really, i find that difficult to believe.

conversing
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May 10, 2021 12:48 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
bodleing2: 100-500km a day.....are you sure???

I know it's flat in the Netherlands, but really, i find that difficult to believe.
My friend at work, Mr Bill, used to take a month off from work every year and cycle out to California or Washington state and then back to Columbus on his favorite trek cycle. He’d average about 320 KMs a day. He had one back pack, one change of clothes, first aid kit, sleeping bag etc but no cellphone or pager. He took different routes each time and saw the contiguous United States.
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May 10, 2021 1:16 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
I did the former South sea in about 21.20 hrs/ It's about 400 km's.
Cycling to My sister who lives In Zuid-Horn I did in about 12 hours on my pushbike, on bicycle it should be about 170 km's but sometimes I took the wrong road or I was searching for the right direction. Usually I left about 12 am and arrived at 12 pm.
Guess I cycled about 18-21 km's per hour. (km's not miles!!!).
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May 10, 2021 1:41 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Mr Bill Cracks me up still laugh

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May 10, 2021 1:46 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
the smell of gasoline and...this sound



unbeatable
so
thanks but no thanks to electric engines laugh
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May 10, 2021 1:55 PM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
Dedovix: the smell of gasoline and...this sound



unbeatable
so
thanks but no thanks to electric engines
I haven't had a bike in years, but I remember the open road from my teen years... Good times...
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May 11, 2021 3:32 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And I thought suitcases on wheels were bad before the inappropriately named hoverboard. Before a man became that suitcase on wheels, became the luggage that he is unmanly enough to let the earth carry for him.
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May 11, 2021 4:14 AM CST Electric Vehicle is here to stay
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Who'd have thought that the suitcase on wheels came with the power to render the earth uninhabitable to mankind. Feet that don't even touch the ground anymore. But you're not hovering. The hovering is an illusion. The truth is that you are connected to the earth for better or worse. Earthlings of the earth, walk yourselves!
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