What is Woke? (249)
So far the only thing I see in anti woke is violent consternation over the fate of some statue covered in pigeon droppings in a park no one goes to.
Maybe looking at groups associated with woke and anti woke would provide more insight.
For instance, two groups that graced Mr.Trump's dinner after his recent running for President announcement
One group was composed anti Semites and holocaust deniers. The other was a white power terrorist orgnization.
Maybe looking at groups associated with woke and anti woke would provide more insight.
For instance, two groups that graced Mr.Trump's dinner after his recent running for President announcement
One group was composed anti Semites and holocaust deniers. The other was a white power terrorist orgnization.
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Woke is an egg yolk
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galrads: My apologies to the OP for going off topic. .....
Ready on the Left Jac, Ready on the Right gal .... all ready on the firing line.
Again, I still don't know what you're talking about, or how it defines 'woke'.Ready on the Left Jac, Ready on the Right gal .... all ready on the firing line.
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jac_the_gripper: Again, I still don't know what you're talking about, or how it defines 'woke'.
I am not sure what you are saying but let's forget "woke" for a minute..... now, regarding student loans: if i take out a loan, a student loan, any type of loan, it is obligatory for me to pay it off. Our president brings up the first and one-time-only student loan forgiveness whenever he wants 26 million votes. That is not equitable for anyone else, adds to our 31 trillion dollar debt and forces those who paid their student loan(s) or never wanted or needed a student loan to pay for someone else's education indebtedness by taxation.
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If I was going to be part of a new "movement," I'd make sure it was well-defined and unambiguous. Woke? Really? It sounds like you are grumpy because the neighbors have been remodeling their house next to you, beginning at 3am in the morning. It makes the group sound unremittingly grumpy. Maybe we should introduce them to the Caffeine movement, and then let them speak a little later in the day after their heads have cleared.
Many people seem to have unlimited wants, and are willing to point a finger at somebody else and say, "He/she took that from me/us, let's take it back?" But, that is just a way to justify themselves.
But, maybe we should start a group of Statue's Rights Activists! Protect those statues who are unable to protect themselves. Most are elderly! And, as one person pointed out, they are crapped on daily, with no remorse!
Yes, to me, the Woke, are just grumpy people needing a wee-bit more coffee early in the AM.
Shalom,
Iyyov
Many people seem to have unlimited wants, and are willing to point a finger at somebody else and say, "He/she took that from me/us, let's take it back?" But, that is just a way to justify themselves.
But, maybe we should start a group of Statue's Rights Activists! Protect those statues who are unable to protect themselves. Most are elderly! And, as one person pointed out, they are crapped on daily, with no remorse!
Yes, to me, the Woke, are just grumpy people needing a wee-bit more coffee early in the AM.
Shalom,
Iyyov
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Woke is rooted, it seems to me ,on behaviors that go back to the 16 century and colonization. The recognition of the evils we all inherit in past and current invading, exploiting and destroying other cultures
Is well recognized today and has been since WW2. Empire building, invading, enslaving, and destroying is as old as mankind. Look at Putin today.
Anti woke Then, is just an admission of ignorance or moral depravity in most people.
Woke,then, is just being aware of others situations and respecting them. People not possessing empathy and awareness are not woke.
The ideas of compensation are a whole different issue.
Is well recognized today and has been since WW2. Empire building, invading, enslaving, and destroying is as old as mankind. Look at Putin today.
Anti woke Then, is just an admission of ignorance or moral depravity in most people.
Woke,then, is just being aware of others situations and respecting them. People not possessing empathy and awareness are not woke.
The ideas of compensation are a whole different issue.
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galrads: I am not sure what you are saying but let's forget "woke" for a minute..... now, regarding student loans: if i take out a loan, a student loan, any type of loan, it is obligatory for me to pay it off.
Our president brings up the first and one-time-only student loan forgiveness whenever he wants 26 million votes. That is not equitable for anyone else, adds to our 31 trillion dollar debt and forces those who paid their student loan(s) or never wanted or needed a student loan to pay for someone else's education indebtedness by taxation.
The thread is 'What is woke?'Our president brings up the first and one-time-only student loan forgiveness whenever he wants 26 million votes. That is not equitable for anyone else, adds to our 31 trillion dollar debt and forces those who paid their student loan(s) or never wanted or needed a student loan to pay for someone else's education indebtedness by taxation.
How do student loans, or student loan forgivenness that has been shut down, define 'woke'?
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raphael119: Woke is rooted, it seems to me ,on behaviors that go back to the 16 century and colonization. The recognition of the evils we all inherit in past and current invading, exploiting and destroying other cultures
Is well recognized today and has been since WW2. Empire building, invading, enslaving, and destroying is as old as mankind. Look at Putin today.
Anti woke Then, is just an admission of ignorance or moral depravity in most people.
Woke,then, is just being aware of others situations and respecting them. People not possessing empathy and awareness are not woke.
The ideas of compensation are a whole different issue.
Or is anti-woke simply a case of not wanting to look at it because it's too painful and challenging?Is well recognized today and has been since WW2. Empire building, invading, enslaving, and destroying is as old as mankind. Look at Putin today.
Anti woke Then, is just an admission of ignorance or moral depravity in most people.
Woke,then, is just being aware of others situations and respecting them. People not possessing empathy and awareness are not woke.
The ideas of compensation are a whole different issue.
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bodleing2: Where did I suggest that I didnt want to hear peoples opinions.
As usual, attacking the person, it really is your regular mo. I see you do it all the time.
Go back and read your response to what I originally said and come back with something that you really put a thought in to.As usual, attacking the person, it really is your regular mo. I see you do it all the time.
Passive aggressive just like every "woke".
Feeling offended by just about anything and on behalf of just about everyone.
That's why in BLM the most vicious protestors are usually white.
Woke and offended as hell.
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According to woke logic and feeling of offence, all first World countries should be canceled and flattened to the ground. For their painful and shameful history.
And tell Pedro he's racially offending people with his over the top tanning.
And tell Pedro he's racially offending people with his over the top tanning.
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Sounds a bit like self loathing, guilt tripping, half caf soy latte drinking…
Oh wait. That’s Portland. My bad.
Oh wait. That’s Portland. My bad.
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The late Queen's lady-in-waiting Lady Susan Hussey has apologised and resigned after she repeatedly asked a black British charity boss where she was "really" from.
Is this a classic example?
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jac_the_gripper: So you don't actually pay for slackers' post-graduate education at all.
You pay taxes and the government uses tax revenue to pay for many, many different things.
How does this define 'woke'?
We all suffer though because of what they could have been. They've taken people's ability to do anything in the real world and replaced with a secular religious education, but neopuritan piety doesn't bring home the bacon. You pay taxes and the government uses tax revenue to pay for many, many different things.
How does this define 'woke'?
And where does it end? The lockdown generation has a million times the ammunition. When kids today come to power I hope they nail the neopuritans to the wall
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Ten_of_cupss: That's why in BLM the most vicious protestors are usually white..
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jac_the_gripper: The thread is 'What is woke?'
How do student loans, or student loan forgivenness that has been shut down, define 'woke'?
I tried and failed to explain how cancelling student debt benefits woke people. You seem to not like talking about woke or ignore the evil reality of woke. Here are a few more astute discussions on how cancelling debt for the woke is a bad idea:How do student loans, or student loan forgivenness that has been shut down, define 'woke'?
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Stan_147: Sounds a bit like self loathing, guilt tripping, half caf soy latte drinking…
Oh wait. That’s Portland. My bad.
That's not really logical, is it?Oh wait. That’s Portland. My bad.
Those who change their ideals and behaviours, recognise and accept the need for change.
It's guilt and negative feelings towards the self which cause people to shy away from facing their destructive, or damaging behaviours.
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ChesneyChrist: We all suffer though because of what they could have been. They've taken people's ability to do anything in the real world and replaced with a secular religious education, but neopuritan piety doesn't bring home the bacon.
And where does it end? The lockdown generation has a million times the ammunition. When kids today come to power I hope they nail the neopuritans to the wall
Who is 'they'?And where does it end? The lockdown generation has a million times the ammunition. When kids today come to power I hope they nail the neopuritans to the wall
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jac_the_gripper: That's not really logical, is it?
Those who change their ideals and behaviours, recognise and accept the need for change.
It's guilt and negative feelings towards the self which cause people to shy away from facing their destructive, or damaging behaviours.
That is exactly what the woke and potus Biden are doing to this country. Only congress of the usa has the power of the purse, not some dicktater like brandon. Those who change their ideals and behaviours, recognise and accept the need for change.
It's guilt and negative feelings towards the self which cause people to shy away from facing their destructive, or damaging behaviours.
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And another reason is the aging population. Liberalism isn't going to work without an actual baby boom which you can't get without being more conservative. What we experience now is an aging population (conservative), a poorer population (conservative), and a less white population (conservative). There's no way of escaping the reality.
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