Is Putin dead or still alive? (21)

Nov 3, 2023 10:10 AM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Gigi64
Gigi64Gigi64Malmö, Skane Sweden5 Threads 98 Posts
For the past week or so, I've been reading in newspapers online that Putin had died, the doctors who were with him when he died, are still locked in the same room with his corpse, look alike doubles who are taking his place publicly, and that the Kreml has on 3 or more occasions denied the "rumours".

For many months now, Ukrainian and other countries have been speculating that Putin is seriously ill, probably won't live past the end of 2023, and had been using more and more look alike doubles for his public appearances.

I have also read in newspapers online, that the president of one of the countries that supported his war on the Ukraine, is now backing down, and asking him to stop the war.

Is it true, can Putin really be dead, and if so, what has his death for an effect as far as the war in the Ukraine and politically for the rest of the world?
Nov 3, 2023 12:39 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Gigi64: For the past week or so, I've been reading in newspapers online that Putin had died, the doctors who were with him when he died, are still locked in the same room with his corpse, look alike doubles who are taking his place publicly, and that the Kreml has on 3 or more occasions denied the "rumours".

For many months now, Ukrainian and other countries have been speculating that Putin is seriously ill, probably won't live past the end of 2023, and had been using more and more look alike doubles for his public appearances.

I have also read in newspapers online, that the president of one of the countries that supported his war on the Ukraine, is now backing down, and asking him to stop the war.

Is it true, can Putin really be dead, and if so, what has his death for an effect as far as the war in the Ukraine and politically for the rest of the world?
that is the 64-Rubles question!uh oh
Nov 3, 2023 1:18 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
I am sorry 2 say but hell afterlife exists
Nov 3, 2023 7:15 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Gigi64
Gigi64Gigi64Malmö, Skane Sweden5 Threads 98 Posts
If Putin really is dead, did he start the war in the Ukraine, knowing he was dying, and wanted to leave his "mark" in russian history like lots of other presidents did? Gorbachev eg., was responsible for the Berlin Wall being broken down, and with it, the "freedom from communism" for the eastern countries.

With the war in the Ukraine, did Putin think he could start the war and it would be over in a few days, weeks or months (before he dies), and that he would go down in history as the man who "regained a part of old Russia" back to communism? If he's alive, could/would his next target be/ have been Poland?

I have met lots of nice people from both Russia, and the Ukraine. When my children were small, we had an Ukrainian au-pair girl. I have also met a few more Ukrainians before and since the war, at my church here in Sweden, so I morally support the Ukrainian people.
Nov 5, 2023 6:14 AM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
OddTraveller
OddTravellerOddTravellerMontgomery, Alabama USA18 Threads 195 Posts
Putin is likely just fine. And if he had died, his successor would likely have shown far less restraint in the Ukraine special operation. He would have crushed all Ukraine resistance by now.

Putin has from the beginning not wished to destroy the Ukraine. He made it clear what the objectives were.

That war is over anyway. Russia will keep the land it has already taken and likely more. 300,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers to 30,000 dead Russian soldiers.
Nov 6, 2023 7:29 AM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
gypman
gypmangypmanGermany, Saxony Germany1 Threads 41 Posts
laugh laugh laugh
Nov 6, 2023 8:03 AM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Tulefell
TulefellTulefellGothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden101 Threads 5 Polls 3,268 Posts
OddTraveller: Putin is likely just fine. And if he had died, his successor would likely have shown far less restraint in the Ukraine special operation. He would have crushed all Ukraine resistance by now.

Putin has from the beginning not wished to destroy the Ukraine. He made it clear what the objectives were.

That war is over anyway. Russia will keep the land it has already taken and likely more. 300,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers to 30,000 dead Russian soldiers.
Please, can you reveal those objectives?
Nov 6, 2023 8:53 AM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Tulefell: Please, can you reveal those objectives?
Revealed including Russian History as the Ukraine geographic are was in creased by the Russians.... by mr. putin.

Nov 6, 2023 1:37 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Tulefell
TulefellTulefellGothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden101 Threads 5 Polls 3,268 Posts
bemyneighbor: Revealed including Russian History as the Ukraine geographic are was in creased by the Russians.... by mr. putin.
Exact what parts of Russian history, if you please?
Nov 6, 2023 2:00 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
bemyneighbor: Revealed including Russian History as the Ukraine geographic are was in creased by the Russians.... by mr. putin.
Like Mr. Putin says .... From the 16th century through the formation of the USSR through today. He does a good job explaining how Ukraine was actually formed. The short video is worth a view imho. Most people have little if any understanding how Ukraine grew to be as big as it is.
Nov 6, 2023 2:04 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
sdarlagg: Like Mr. Putin says .... From the 16th century through the formation of the USSR through today. He does a good job explaining how Ukraine was actually formed. The short video is worth a view imho. Most people have little if any understanding how Ukraine grew to be as big as it is.
Kievan Rus!
Nov 6, 2023 2:16 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Tulefell
TulefellTulefellGothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden101 Threads 5 Polls 3,268 Posts
sdarlagg: Like Mr. Putin says .... From the 16th century through the formation of the USSR through today. He does a good job explaining how Ukraine was actually formed. The short video is worth a view imho. Most people have little if any understanding how Ukraine grew to be as big as it is.
Putin isn't historian. He is a KGBshnik. He's trained to lie, manipulate, deceive, bribe, intimidate, torture and kill. In his youth he used to make searches at Soviet dissidents' places (there are protocols with his signature). When he was carrying a briefcase after Sobchak, he also stole petty cash from secretaries' handbags and pocket. Now he's stealing by billions and has someone else to run his errands - to intimidate, bribe, torture and kill. But nothing of it makes him a historian.

Once again, exact what part of Russian history (not Putin history, mind, but Russian history) makes it right to kill Ukrainians?
Nov 6, 2023 3:08 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Tulefell: Putin isn't historian. He is a KGBshnik. He's trained to lie, manipulate, deceive, bribe, intimidate, torture and kill. In his youth he used to make searches at Soviet dissidents' places (there are protocols with his signature). When he was carrying a briefcase after Sobchak, he also stole petty cash from secretaries' handbags and pocket. Now he's stealing by billions and has someone else to run his errands - to intimidate, bribe, torture and kill. But nothing of it makes him a historian.

Once again, exact what part of Russian history (not Putin history, mind, but Russian history) makes it right to kill Ukrainians?
Correct, Putin is not a historian. However, his account for developments in Ukraine is spot on accurate in this video. I understand though if you don't want to listen to his short talk on the subject.
Nov 6, 2023 3:46 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Tulefell
TulefellTulefellGothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden101 Threads 5 Polls 3,268 Posts
sdarlagg: Correct, Putin is not a historian. However, his account for developments in Ukraine is spot on accurate in this video. I understand though if you don't want to listen to his short talk on the subject.
No, a KGBshnik, a thief, a murderer, a war criminal will lie anything to justify his crimes. Only a fool would listen.
Nov 6, 2023 3:49 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Heretodaynow
HeretodaynowHeretodaynowPortland, Oregon USA1 Threads 9 Posts
Putin is NOT dead! Putin is in good health, don’t believes the lies!
Beforeitsnews dot com
Putin supports the USA!
Nov 6, 2023 4:35 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
TTKSpectre
TTKSpectreTTKSpectreSt.Louis, Missouri USA1 Threads 334 Posts
bemyneighbor: Revealed including Russian History as the Ukraine geographic are was in creased by the Russians.... by mr. putin.
If there's actually some content to that speech, then I have never heard a worse translator.
Nov 6, 2023 4:37 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
TTKSpectre
TTKSpectreTTKSpectreSt.Louis, Missouri USA1 Threads 334 Posts
Heretodaynow: Putin is NOT dead! Putin is in good health, don’t believes the lies!
Beforeitsnews dot com
Putin supports the USA!
rasPutin supports Putin, nothing else. Russia will be better off without him when the time comes.
Nov 8, 2023 10:40 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
OddTraveller
OddTravellerOddTravellerMontgomery, Alabama USA18 Threads 195 Posts
Tulefell: Please, can you reveal those objectives?
Not a secret. Ukraine had to stay neutral and stop abusing Ukrainian citizens of Russian descent.

More to it than that, but that was the primary objectives. And those will be accomplished. So the war was pointless for the Ukrainian government. They never had a chance. Russia never showed an interest in advancing to France. It was a regional conflict.

Funny how for the President of the Ukrainian, the Defender of Democracy, just suspended elections.
Nov 9, 2023 3:20 AM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Heretodaynow: Putin is NOT dead! Putin is in good health, don’t believes the lies!
Beforeitsnews dot com
Putin supports the USA!
BeforeitsNews?rolling on the floor laughing
The same site that claimed that the Crew of the International Spacestation had suffocated in a Helium-leak?rolling on the floor laughing I suppose Vlad checks in with you daily to assure you of his good health?uh oh
Nov 10, 2023 2:09 PM CST Is Putin dead or still alive?
Tulefell
TulefellTulefellGothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden101 Threads 5 Polls 3,268 Posts
OddTraveller: Not a secret. Ukraine had to stay neutral and stop abusing Ukrainian citizens of Russian descent.

More to it than that, but that was the primary objectives. And those will be accomplished. So the war was pointless for the Ukrainian government. They never had a chance. Russia never showed an interest in advancing to France. It was a regional conflict.

Funny how for the President of the Ukrainian, the Defender of Democracy, just suspended elections.
Indeed. Let's have an election when:
* ca 12 millions are dispersed and some of them in Russia.
* ca 1 million are fighting in a war.
* ca 1 million in hospitals trying to recover.

Well.. I've been on this site for a long time, but the last 3 year have unveiled a lot. (Mildly speaking.) But back to the subject:

1. Why is Ukraine to stay neutral (to what?)
2. How does Ukraine abuse its citizens of Russian descent?
3. What are "citizens" of Russian descents in your mind?
4. What are citizens of "Russian" descents in your mind?
5. Are you fine with Russia to invade Tallinn to protect Estonian citizens of Russian descent? (ca 40% of those there. And do they want to...)
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