Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires ( Archived) (38)

Nov 18, 2008 8:42 AM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
I guess he has that much in his shopping cart.rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 18, 2008 8:48 AM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
xoredheadxo
xoredheadxoxoredheadxoMorgantown, West Virginia USA14 Threads 1,179 Posts
What genius thought this one up??? doh
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Nov 18, 2008 8:51 AM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
doh Yeah...lots of luck. I would think if he had that, he wouldn't be homeless. dunno confused
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Nov 18, 2008 8:51 AM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
xoredheadxo: What genius thought this one up???


Well he is talking about Cali.... They don't make any sense in anything they do therecheers
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Nov 18, 2008 8:55 AM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
xoredheadxo
xoredheadxoxoredheadxoMorgantown, West Virginia USA14 Threads 1,179 Posts
Tater: Well he is talking about Cali.... They don't make any sense in anything they do there



laugh laugh Sad but oh so true.
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Nov 18, 2008 9:12 AM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
foreveryoung1
foreveryoung1foreveryoung1cartagena, Murcia Spain2 Threads 1 Polls 2,984 Posts
presumably he could well have a 'home' for some years now?
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Nov 18, 2008 9:16 AM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
mastic55: I guess he has that much in his shopping cart.


May I pay one dollar a week, please? sigh

I'm really very sorry...........
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Nov 18, 2008 12:15 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
here's the whole story:



The Associated Press
Article Launched: 11/17/2008 03:37:14 PM PST


LOS ANGELES—A homeless man was sentenced Monday to 45 months in prison and ordered to pay more than $101 million in restitution for starting two fires, including a 2006 blaze that burned more than 163,000 acres in Los Padres National Forest.
U.S. District Judge Valerie Baker Fairbank sentenced Steven Emory Butcher, 50, after he was convicted in February of starting the 2006 Day Fire by burning debris at his campsite as well as the smaller Ellis Fire in the same forest in 2002.

"I threw a cigarette butt or two on the pile," Butcher told the judge. "I tried everything to put it out. I'm afraid of fire."

The Day Fire raged for more than a month and cost more than $78 million to suppress. It injured 18 people, destroyed 11 structures and was the fifth-largest fire in California's history, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

The Ellis Fire burned 70 acres.

"The fact that in 2006 he engaged in virtually the same conduct as in 2002 shows extreme recklessness," the judge said, pointing out the defendant suffered from paranoid schizophrenia, depression and alcoholism.

Prosecutors had recommended a 10-year prison sentence for Butcher.
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Nov 18, 2008 1:12 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
Probably the Idea of another Clue-Less Jury.doh jaw drop uh oh
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Nov 18, 2008 1:15 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
ModestlyAwesome
ModestlyAwesomeModestlyAwesomePhoenix, Arizona USA3 Threads 2 Polls 322 Posts
Jail-time makes sense, fining him money he'll never have doesn't. confused
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Nov 18, 2008 2:58 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
Cali, Cali, Cali..... sigh I lost all hope for them when they that actor won for governor.... I don't care how many dumb commercials they play over and over here in Canada saying "So come visit us" "Find yourself here" I will never live there and this one of the many good reasons! doh
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Nov 18, 2008 3:00 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
SummerTimeXOXO: Cali, Cali, Cali..... I lost all hope for them when they that actor won for governor.... I don't care how many dumb commercials they play over and over here in Canada saying "So come visit us" "Find yourself here" I will never live there and this one of the many good reasons!
That started way before Arnie!rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 18, 2008 3:08 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
Conrad73: That started way before Arnie!
I have no clue lol I'm a Canuck.... ummm Canadian lol that just sees what is going on now lol. laugh Seems things only got worse! thumbs down
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Nov 18, 2008 3:18 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
B_S1965
B_S1965B_S1965champlin, Minnesota USA9 Threads 308 Posts
Maybe he can get a government bail out to help him pay they seem to be able to write plenty of checks with our accounts...grin
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Nov 18, 2008 3:33 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
cardsfan24
cardsfan24cardsfan24somewhere in paradise, Illinois USA40 Threads 1 Polls 5,169 Posts
SummerTimeXOXO: I have no clue lol I'm a Canuck.... ummm Canadian lol that just sees what is going on now lol. Seems things only got worse!
isn't canada liike california???laugh rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 18, 2008 3:36 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
cardsfan24: isn't canada liike california???
No not at all! lol. I don't get it! confused
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Nov 18, 2008 3:37 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
cardsfan24
cardsfan24cardsfan24somewhere in paradise, Illinois USA40 Threads 1 Polls 5,169 Posts
SummerTimeXOXO: No not at all! lol. I don't get it!
i was just kiddin i lov canada other than the border guards....and well the money thing...and well the east is west and west is east but canada is cool , and toronto been there coolness in toronto...
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Nov 18, 2008 4:03 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
cardsfan24: i was just kiddin i lov canada other than the border guards....and well the money thing...and well the east is west and west is east but canada is cool , and toronto been there coolness in toronto...
Oh ok lol well the only think I hate about this place are the winters!!!! lol. I have to say though, I am very proud of our health care system! sick applause laugh
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Nov 18, 2008 4:19 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
ooby_dooby: here's the whole story:



The Associated Press
Article Launched: 11/17/2008 03:37:14 PM PSTLOS ANGELES—A homeless man was sentenced Monday to 45 months in prison and ordered to pay more than $101 million in restitution for starting two fires, including a 2006 blaze that burned more than 163,000 acres in Los Padres National Forest.
U.S. District Judge Valerie Baker Fairbank sentenced Steven Emory Butcher, 50, after he was convicted in February of starting the 2006 Day Fire by burning debris at his campsite as well as the smaller Ellis Fire in the same forest in 2002.

"I threw a cigarette butt or two on the pile," Butcher told the judge. "I tried everything to put it out. I'm afraid of fire."

The Day Fire raged for more than a month and cost more than $78 million to suppress. It injured 18 people, destroyed 11 structures and was the fifth-largest fire in California's history, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

The Ellis Fire burned 70 acres.

"The fact that in 2006 he engaged in virtually the same conduct as in 2002 shows extreme recklessness," the judge said, pointing out the defendant suffered from paranoid schizophrenia, depression and alcoholism.

Prosecutors had recommended a 10-year prison sentence for Butcher.



This explains why people sometimes referr to California as being full of fruits & nuts.laugh Fining a homeless man 101 million dollars. I wonder what kinds of drugs the court systems are on.laugh
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Nov 18, 2008 4:27 PM CST Homeless man ordered to pay $101 million for starting Calif. fires
Dknew
DknewDknewBarrington, New Hampshire USA262 Threads 10 Polls 7,077 Posts
somechick: This explains why people sometimes referr to California as being full of fruits & nuts. Fining a homeless man 101 million dollars. I wonder what kinds of drugs the court systems are on.




Well isn't Cal. the enlightened State laugh roll eyes laugh
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