Is this Church Legalism? (54)
I don't see anything illegal about it, but yeah, I can see where that would drive division in the church. Definately a bad way to reach out to the community as a welcoming congregation.
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I see the first things as an opportunity to make sure people still feel connected. The 4th one though is a mistake and encourages confrontation.
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the terminology you are choosing is correct
it is legalism
way to measure
is it in gods word?
nope
so there ya go-its optional
its an adopted practice
its not scriptural
by definition it is legalism
it is legalism
way to measure
is it in gods word?
nope
so there ya go-its optional
its an adopted practice
its not scriptural
by definition it is legalism
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We have a lot of people in our church that have jobs that sometimes require us to miss a service and to know that my church has decided to start kicking people out because they are trying to provide for their families I take offense.
Chuch was created as a way to encourge people to come and worship together as a celebration of God's never ending love and the promise he made to us when we live for him. This just goes against so many chirstian values of ministry that promote love and support.
Chuch was created as a way to encourge people to come and worship together as a celebration of God's never ending love and the promise he made to us when we live for him. This just goes against so many chirstian values of ministry that promote love and support.
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rolltideroll: Here are some new rules that some local churches have come up with.
The first time you miss a service you recieve a card in the mail.
The second time you miss a service you recieve a phone call.
The thrid time you miss a service you recieve a visit from someone on the church staff.
The fourth time you miss a service their is a report written up and you have to explain your absence to the church leadership.
This is something new that has come up with the smaller churches in my area. So far all it has done is created the start of a split with in the church members are leaving the elderly are complaining that this is not the way to reach out to those that we are trying to witness to.
Well,I'd probably leave them with a quote from Götz von Berlichingen.The first time you miss a service you recieve a card in the mail.
The second time you miss a service you recieve a phone call.
The thrid time you miss a service you recieve a visit from someone on the church staff.
The fourth time you miss a service their is a report written up and you have to explain your absence to the church leadership.
This is something new that has come up with the smaller churches in my area. So far all it has done is created the start of a split with in the church members are leaving the elderly are complaining that this is not the way to reach out to those that we are trying to witness to.
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Rolltideroll, does this church serve quality coffee and donuts after the service?
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May I humbly suggest that you go to the church leadership and tell them to stuff their church up their arseholes! (Absolutely no offence intended)
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They dont serve Coffee and donuts.
Many members from the church have already tried to question the leadership of the church especially our older members and they were told that if they did not like it they could leave.
The leadership is saying they are folowing God's rules.
I have been searching online quite a bit today and every time I search God's law the Ten Commandments come up but nothing comes up about taking away memeber ship because you dont make it to every serverice/gathering.
Many members from the church have already tried to question the leadership of the church especially our older members and they were told that if they did not like it they could leave.
The leadership is saying they are folowing God's rules.
I have been searching online quite a bit today and every time I search God's law the Ten Commandments come up but nothing comes up about taking away memeber ship because you dont make it to every serverice/gathering.
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rolltideroll: They dont serve Coffee and donuts. Many members from the church have already tried to question the leadership of the church especially our older members and they were told that if they did not like it they could leave. The leadership is saying they are folowing God's rules. I have been searching online quite a bit today and every time I search God's law the Ten Commandments come up but nothing comes up about taking away memeber ship because you dont make it to every serverice/gathering.
Well,God might severely shorten their Funds too. Wouldn't be the first time that happens!
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Seems like it would be better to take a poll in the congregation and ask them if they would like a fellowship of church members to come to members homes at a convenient time if they are unable to attend services or even televise the services for people who can't make services.
Church leaders need input from their congregants in today's world if their church is going to survive. Without the congregants, the funds dry up quickly. Leaders need creative ways to keep viable church membership, not find ways to lose membership. They should be looking at other churches to find out what they do that makes their congregational attendance and membership so successful.
God, religion and attendance at prayer services are a personal choice and should never be a forced choice.
Church leaders need input from their congregants in today's world if their church is going to survive. Without the congregants, the funds dry up quickly. Leaders need creative ways to keep viable church membership, not find ways to lose membership. They should be looking at other churches to find out what they do that makes their congregational attendance and membership so successful.
God, religion and attendance at prayer services are a personal choice and should never be a forced choice.
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well its a good way to stop people from going at all
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rolltideroll: Here are some new rules that some local churches have come up with.
The first time you miss a service you recieve a card in the mail.
The second time you miss a service you recieve a phone call.
The thrid time you miss a service you recieve a visit from someone on the church staff.
The fourth time you miss a service their is a report written up and you have to explain your absence to the church leadership.
This is something new that has come up with the smaller churches in my area. So far all it has done is created the start of a split with in the church members are leaving the elderly are complaining that this is not the way to reach out to those that we are trying to witness to.
The first time you miss a service you recieve a card in the mail.
The second time you miss a service you recieve a phone call.
The thrid time you miss a service you recieve a visit from someone on the church staff.
The fourth time you miss a service their is a report written up and you have to explain your absence to the church leadership.
This is something new that has come up with the smaller churches in my area. So far all it has done is created the start of a split with in the church members are leaving the elderly are complaining that this is not the way to reach out to those that we are trying to witness to.
Only in the USA.
It has to be. CHrist, people are adults, that is bloody blind obedience.
Cult would what I would describe that.
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Sommerauer71: Only in the USA.
It has to be. CHrist, people are adults, that is bloody blind obedience.
Cult would what I would describe that.
It has to be. CHrist, people are adults, that is bloody blind obedience.
Cult would what I would describe that.
Since many churches have replaced wine with coloured water faith has been diluted............
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My church sent me a cease and desist order.............. and I haven't been back since ............
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rusty_knight: Since many churches have replaced wine with coloured water faith has been diluted............
Now if Christ had been born in Jamaica would rum have been the communion spirit thingy?
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jvaski: My church sent me a cease and desist order.............. and I haven't been back since ............
So you ceased desisitng?
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rusty_knight: Since many churches have replaced wine with coloured water faith has been diluted............
Colored water, they might as well use grape juice its closer to being wine, but a few years off
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jaynimble: Colored water, they might as well use grape juice its closer to being wine, but a few years off
In biblical days wine was a good thing............. I am sure God created the grape for the purpose of making alcohol and that some misery guts decided that what God made for us to enjoy was a sin........ now these same people are saying bread is bad for you too!
Heck in the good old bad old days people wanted to go to church for a good slurp of wine - that's why the priest held the wine so nobody got greedy and to ensure there was enough to go round.............. did you know that?
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rusty_knight: Since many churches have replaced wine with coloured water faith has been diluted............
Well, hopefully many people are not making rash judgements not to go to these places.
Religion is not about ordering and demanding, it is, I am led to believe when handled properly, about love, worship and honour.
That is lacking as we know in today;s soceity, but there is some hope, I have some faith in that.
But this is just crazy behaviour.
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The first time you miss a service you recieve a card in the mail.
The second time you miss a service you recieve a phone call.
The thrid time you miss a service you recieve a visit from someone on the church staff.
The fourth time you miss a service their is a report written up and you have to explain your absence to the church leadership.
This is something new that has come up with the smaller churches in my area. So far all it has done is created the start of a split with in the church members are leaving the elderly are complaining that this is not the way to reach out to those that we are trying to witness to.