When did it become a crime to be a patriot? (65)
Its not a crime to be a patriot , Its a crime to incite violence.These young men are outraged about the Sydney riots as we all are however there idea that a violent confrontation with the isamic extreamists is obviously a bad one.
The islamic youth how incite the riots are being arrested too so......
I was in Sydney yesterday I saw the beginnings of their prepations its been all over facebook & twitter.Its going to go down worse than the cronulla riots & sadly 2 arrests are not going to be the end of it .
The youth who held the placards of hate have done ireputable damage to australias multicultural levels of acceptance.Even the extreame left are shocked and appalled at what s happened NOONE THINKS THIS IS ACCEPTABLE !
The islamic youth how incite the riots are being arrested too so......
I was in Sydney yesterday I saw the beginnings of their prepations its been all over facebook & twitter.Its going to go down worse than the cronulla riots & sadly 2 arrests are not going to be the end of it .
The youth who held the placards of hate have done ireputable damage to australias multicultural levels of acceptance.Even the extreame left are shocked and appalled at what s happened NOONE THINKS THIS IS ACCEPTABLE !
It is a very sad state of affairs. I am sad for what is happening on our door step. One of the reasons we know Australia is such a great place is because violence between multicultural groups has never been accepted here. That's not to say it hasn't happened before. Lets face it we are all immigrants unless we are indigenous people. Lets hope the police can catch the ring leaders and put a stop to it all soon.
Two of the fundamental problems with multiculturalism is that proponents of it ignore two basic facts.
1. There has never been a successful society of that sort . . . ever . . . anywhere. It has always ended in conflict between the different groups.
2. The assumption is made that people who have behaved in certain ways for thousands of years can be picked up from one part of the world and placed into another society where they will behave differently. That is simply not going to happen. It is a nature of the beast argument. Look at the Muslim world: squalor, corruption, violence and terrorism. Only a lunatic would think that these people could be shipped to Australian and behave in a way that was different. Introducing Muslims to a Western society is like releasing venomous snakes into your house and hoping that they will not bite you. It is the nature of the beast to do what they do.
1. There has never been a successful society of that sort . . . ever . . . anywhere. It has always ended in conflict between the different groups.
2. The assumption is made that people who have behaved in certain ways for thousands of years can be picked up from one part of the world and placed into another society where they will behave differently. That is simply not going to happen. It is a nature of the beast argument. Look at the Muslim world: squalor, corruption, violence and terrorism. Only a lunatic would think that these people could be shipped to Australian and behave in a way that was different. Introducing Muslims to a Western society is like releasing venomous snakes into your house and hoping that they will not bite you. It is the nature of the beast to do what they do.
If it could be done 
I never thought it a crime to be a parrot 
Watch the movie "paulie" I wish i was a parrot & had a girl like Marie 
Any of you other birds getting a date hug:
I never thought it a crime to be a parrot Watch the movie "paulie" I wish i was a parrot & had a girl like Marie Any of you other birds getting a date hug:
Sorry Carlo's 
thought you said parrot 
This scenario smacks of vigilantism, two young testosterone-fuelled boofheads taking matters into their own hands (hello Cronulla riots), no doubt planning to drape themselves in the Aussie flag whilst trying not to get it tangled in the knuckles that they're dragging on the ground.
Serene out
Serene out
serene56: This scenario smacks of vigilantism, two young testosterone-fuelled boofheads taking matters into their own hands (hello Cronulla riots), no doubt planning to drape themselves in the Aussie flag whilst trying not to get it tangled in the knuckles that they're dragging on the ground.
Serene out
Serene out
Hey i resemmble that remark
boofhead 
Lookin4missright: Hey i resemmble that remark boofhead
It's an affectionate term when applied to you dear
serene56: It's an affectionate term when applied to you dear
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All of this seems to have burst into our living rooms because of some badly made, obscure mini movie that most of us would never have seen or heard of if it hadn't been brought to our attention by the 'violent protests' held in Sydney by Muslims
Unfortunately the muslim reaction to the movie is generating such bad feelings around the world and not helping their cause, in fact it is setting it back. All the good work that moderate muslims may have achieved to show us that they can and want to assimilate, has just been wiped out?
Why didn't some high ranking Muslim Leader just come out make an official statement denouncing the makers of the video and asking for an apology? Surely they would have gained more sympathy that way?
Newlife08: All of this seems to have burst into our living rooms because of some badly made, obscure mini movie that most of us would never have seen or heard of if it hadn't been brought to our attention by the 'violent protests' held in Sydney by Muslims
Unfortunately the muslim reaction to the movie is generating such bad feelings around the world and not helping their cause, in fact it is setting it back. All the good work that moderate muslims may have achieved to show us that they can and want to assimilate, has just been wiped out?
Why didn't some high ranking Muslim Leader just come out make an official statement denouncing the makers of the video and asking for an apology? Surely they would have gained more sympathy that way?
Unfortunately the muslim reaction to the movie is generating such bad feelings around the world and not helping their cause, in fact it is setting it back. All the good work that moderate muslims may have achieved to show us that they can and want to assimilate, has just been wiped out?
Why didn't some high ranking Muslim Leader just come out make an official statement denouncing the makers of the video and asking for an apology? Surely they would have gained more sympathy that way?
Odd Spot #1 Yanks are expected to only sit back and watch their flag being burnt (for some reason, this is very sacreligous for them) while some obscure person makes an obscure movie which extremely few obscure people support and it starts mega violence.
Odd Spot #2 If you are clearly identified as being a peace-loving Aussie, it takes many months to organise a peaceful demonstration and you have many requirements before it can go ahead:
mega-clauses for Public Liability Insurance,
pay the overtime for Police to be around,
pay for private security firms to ensure that it is peaceful,
pay the local Council to close off the streets, erect barricades, clean up if there is any mess
develop an Business Plan with all contingencies such as traffic diversions, emergency plans for Police, Fire Brigade and Ambulance
must not offend any race, colour or creed.
Odd Spot #3 If your ethnicity is established as not being born in Australia, you can organise protests (violent and non-violent) any way you want.
Here is a video that shows some of the 'benefits' and 'enrichment' of multiculturalism.
You will need a strong stomach.
You will need a strong stomach.
Newlife08: All of this seems to have burst into our living rooms because of some badly made, obscure mini movie that most of us would never have seen or heard of if it hadn't been brought to our attention by the 'violent protests' held in Sydney by Muslims
Unfortunately the muslim reaction to the movie is generating such bad feelings around the world and not helping their cause, in fact it is setting it back. All the good work that moderate muslims may have achieved to show us that they can and want to assimilate, has just been wiped out?
Why didn't some high ranking Muslim Leader just come out make an official statement denouncing the makers of the video and asking for an apology? Surely they would have gained more sympathy that way?
Unfortunately the muslim reaction to the movie is generating such bad feelings around the world and not helping their cause, in fact it is setting it back. All the good work that moderate muslims may have achieved to show us that they can and want to assimilate, has just been wiped out?
Why didn't some high ranking Muslim Leader just come out make an official statement denouncing the makers of the video and asking for an apology? Surely they would have gained more sympathy that way?
Um..... one high ranking official came out in Pakistan today and offered One Hundred Dollars to anyone who would murder the author of that Video' live by the sword and die by the sword.
Martia: Um..... one high ranking official came out in Pakistan today and offered One Hundred Dollars to anyone who would murder the author of that Video' live by the sword and die by the sword.
I think that you meant to say $100,000.
Helps to explain why the Taliban and al Qaeda operate freely in Pakistan.
I try to believe that this is a religion like any other religion that has extremists who are in the minority who cause most of the problems but it is harder to be tolerant of people who are not tolerant of anyone who is not of their beliefs??
So where does this leave our troops (and 'the alliance') who right now are in Aghanistan trying to teach them how a democracy works?
Think the last 10 yrs or whatever it is that the troops have been there has been a total waste of time and even worse, waste of good lives?
We have yet to see what the reaction is there.
Newlife08: I try to believe that this is a religion like any other religion that has extremists who are in the minority who cause most of the problems but it is harder to be tolerant of people who are not tolerant of anyone who is not of their beliefs??
So where does this leave our troops (and 'the alliance') who right now are in Aghanistan trying to teach them how a democracy works?
Think the last 10 yrs or whatever it is that the troops have been there has been a total waste of time and even worse, waste of good lives?
We have yet to see what the reaction is there.
So where does this leave our troops (and 'the alliance') who right now are in Aghanistan trying to teach them how a democracy works?
Think the last 10 yrs or whatever it is that the troops have been there has been a total waste of time and even worse, waste of good lives?
We have yet to see what the reaction is there.
Newbie, it is a waste that we Aussies are "invited" into a country to help when they cry for help. We have our peaceful and not so peaceful demonstrations because Australia "does nothing" but when we send our troops to assist them with rebuilding and teaching them "policing" we are shot down.
Maybe we should be Ostriches and not Emus, and learn to put our head in the sand and ignore the rest of the world. Maybe Carl is right (I hope not) and close our borders before they bring more terrorists over here to fight their wars on our soil.
So how come if religion is such a good thing that it has been the cause of so much bloodshed over centuries??
I ask myself this question - if I had to leave Australia and was told that Country A, had lots going for it, lots of opportunities BUT being a woman :
- I would have to dress in a black dress from head to toe to go out in public
- I would not be able to hold a drivers licence
- probably not receive an equal education to a male
- not be allowed to have a passport without my husband's permission
- not be able to travel within my own country without my husband's permission
- definitely not wear make up or jewellry
- not wear modern clothing
- not have my own money
- and my husband could take other wives
- oh, and your husband would be chosen for you, and possible from a very young age
then I probably would not go to this country??
So why if you want to live like this would anyone seriously want to come to Australia?? This is a genuine question ????
Australians live almost the opposite to the above so why would you want to come and live here?
I know these are the beliefs of the extremes of Sharia law but even so I cannot understand it??
I have read a lot of books on countries that live under the Sharia Law and cannot get my head around it
It is like living in the Middle Ages to me. Sorry if that offends anyone but that is how I see it, unless anyone can explain it??
Newlife08: So how come if religion is such a good thing that it has been the cause of so much bloodshed over centuries??
I ask myself this question - if I had to leave Australia and was told that Country A, had lots going for it, lots of opportunities BUT being a woman :
- I would have to dress in a black dress from head to toe to go out in public
- I would not be able to hold a drivers licence
- probably not receive an equal education to a male
- not be allowed to have a passport without my husband's permission
- not be able to travel within my own country without my husband's permission
- definitely not wear make up or jewellry
- not wear modern clothing
- not have my own money
- and my husband could take other wives
- oh, and your husband would be chosen for you, and possible from a very young age
then I probably would not go to this country??
So why if you want to live like this would anyone seriously want to come to Australia?? This is a genuine question ????
Australians live almost the opposite to the above so why would you want to come and live here?
I know these are the beliefs of the extremes of Sharia law but even so I cannot understand it??
I have read a lot of books on countries that live under the Sharia Law and cannot get my head around it
It is like living in the Middle Ages to me. Sorry if that offends anyone but that is how I see it, unless anyone can explain it??
I ask myself this question - if I had to leave Australia and was told that Country A, had lots going for it, lots of opportunities BUT being a woman :
- I would have to dress in a black dress from head to toe to go out in public
- I would not be able to hold a drivers licence
- probably not receive an equal education to a male
- not be allowed to have a passport without my husband's permission
- not be able to travel within my own country without my husband's permission
- definitely not wear make up or jewellry
- not wear modern clothing
- not have my own money
- and my husband could take other wives
- oh, and your husband would be chosen for you, and possible from a very young age
then I probably would not go to this country??
So why if you want to live like this would anyone seriously want to come to Australia?? This is a genuine question ????
Australians live almost the opposite to the above so why would you want to come and live here?
I know these are the beliefs of the extremes of Sharia law but even so I cannot understand it??
I have read a lot of books on countries that live under the Sharia Law and cannot get my head around it
It is like living in the Middle Ages to me. Sorry if that offends anyone but that is how I see it, unless anyone can explain it??
Newlife08: So how come if religion is such a good thing that it has been the cause of so much bloodshed over centuries??
I ask myself this question - if I had to leave Australia and was told that Country A, had lots going for it, lots of opportunities BUT being a woman :
- I would have to dress in a black dress from head to toe to go out in public
- I would not be able to hold a drivers licence
- probably not receive an equal education to a male
- not be allowed to have a passport without my husband's permission
- not be able to travel within my own country without my husband's permission
- definitely not wear make up or jewellry
- not wear modern clothing
- not have my own money
- and my husband could take other wives
- oh, and your husband would be chosen for you, and possible from a very young age
then I probably would not go to this country??
So why if you want to live like this would anyone seriously want to come to Australia?? This is a genuine question ????
Australians live almost the opposite to the above so why would you want to come and live here?
I know these are the beliefs of the extremes of Sharia law but even so I cannot understand it??
I have read a lot of books on countries that live under the Sharia Law and cannot get my head around it
It is like living in the Middle Ages to me. Sorry if that offends anyone but that is how I see it, unless anyone can explain it??
I ask myself this question - if I had to leave Australia and was told that Country A, had lots going for it, lots of opportunities BUT being a woman :
- I would have to dress in a black dress from head to toe to go out in public
- I would not be able to hold a drivers licence
- probably not receive an equal education to a male
- not be allowed to have a passport without my husband's permission
- not be able to travel within my own country without my husband's permission
- definitely not wear make up or jewellry
- not wear modern clothing
- not have my own money
- and my husband could take other wives
- oh, and your husband would be chosen for you, and possible from a very young age
then I probably would not go to this country??
So why if you want to live like this would anyone seriously want to come to Australia?? This is a genuine question ????
Australians live almost the opposite to the above so why would you want to come and live here?
I know these are the beliefs of the extremes of Sharia law but even so I cannot understand it??
I have read a lot of books on countries that live under the Sharia Law and cannot get my head around it
It is like living in the Middle Ages to me. Sorry if that offends anyone but that is how I see it, unless anyone can explain it??
Newlife, Hi ah,
You are not describing religion, you are describing Cultural Differences and acceptances..
That is what I am against.. not religion... the cultural stuff..
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By Mark Morri and Janet Fife-Yeomans
The Daily Telegraph September 22, 2012 12:00AM
TWO men alleged to have used texts and social media to organise a pro-Australia rally in the wake of last week's violent Muslim protest were yesterday arrested for inciting and promoting violence.
It is alleged that the pair were attempting to organise the rally in the CBD this weekend.
As American and French diplomats in Sydney put their citizens on high alert amid fears of more Islamic unrest, police arrested a 20-year-old at an Ingleburn business and a 21-year-old man on George St, Sydney.
While playing down threats of a repeat of last Saturday's violence, Assistant Police Commissioner Alan Clarke said 300 extra officers would be in the CBD this weekend.
The US Embassy has advised its nationals to avoid Hyde Park and Martin Place, while the French embassy said it was taking a "zero-risk" approach after a French magazine published cartoons of a naked Prophet Muhammad.
The 20-year-old man arrested at Ingleburn is from Glenmore Park. He was charged with recruiting persons to engage in criminal activity and printing/publish to incite/urge/aid commission of crime.
He was granted strict conditional bail to appear in Penrith Local Court on Monday October 15.
The 21-year-old arrested in George Street was last night still at The Rocks police station assisting police with their inquiries.
A 19-year-old Belfield man has become the ninth adult to be charged over the violence after he was charged with affray and throwing a bottle at police during the riots.
(My apology for not providing a link to the Telegraph website, but the link given on the Telegraph's page connects with a different news report)