Obama keeps his important promise and begining pulling out troops from Afghanistan as promised. (701)
Hot_Single_Dude: Yeah I agree... Chineese power holders are doing some of THE most horrible acts against whole humanity and they are getting a way with it because of piles of money
A man from China told me one time that just keeping everything running and people fed was enough of a concern for his country in his opinion.
The guy was undoubtedly a loyal party member and knew what he HAD to say but he was also living the life. He was uncomfortable talking about some things in present day China but he also knew what his parents and grandparents had experienced in Mao's day and before. By comparison he felt like was living in a dream world.
katt1017: Where do you go?
How do you know that you're not putting others at risk by stepping out of the already secure area?
Think logistics, don't just use emotion (i.e. your hate for Bush)here.
Keep in mind this was a previously announced photo-op. If I was on his Secret Service detail I would have told him, "With all due respect sir, if you get out of that chair before we've swept the area I will put you on the ground. Are we at an understanding sir?"
Try again, what would you have done?
How do you know that you're not putting others at risk by stepping out of the already secure area?
Think logistics, don't just use emotion (i.e. your hate for Bush)here.
Keep in mind this was a previously announced photo-op. If I was on his Secret Service detail I would have told him, "With all due respect sir, if you get out of that chair before we've swept the area I will put you on the ground. Are we at an understanding sir?"
Try again, what would you have done?
Okay. I know your insisting for me to say, "I would have stayed sitting down".
See the presidents' detail are trained to protect the president. But I would have still politely excused myself without alarming to the incident. The secret service knows percisely how to handle situations as such.
katt1017: A man from China told me one time that just keeping everything running and people fed was enough of a concern for his country in his opinion.
The guy was undoubtedly a loyal party member and knew what he HAD to say but he was also living the life. He was uncomfortable talking about some things in present day China but he also knew what his parents and grandparents had experienced in Mao's day and before. By comparison he felt like was living in a dream world.
The guy was undoubtedly a loyal party member and knew what he HAD to say but he was also living the life. He was uncomfortable talking about some things in present day China but he also knew what his parents and grandparents had experienced in Mao's day and before. By comparison he felt like was living in a dream world.
Agree a gain... Chineese are not willing to talk much and the whole regim there is using a lot energy pointing out critics and finding them and disturbing them and their families no matter where in that huge country and even being more than a billion people living there so I understand why they are not willing to talk
A rather big group of new rich living a fairy tell kind of living over there... got it all and can get even more.
I am not sure the situation of human rights will eVEr solve in China... old styled kind of cultur which not easy to break or change what so ever... bribe is common and is forced upon folks and then they assisinate and execute and censor and stuff like impossible to imagine ... pretty on surface a ture hell if folks try to talk freely and getting in trouble with their autorities
Though one thing works... if the flow of money was stopped or disturbed for real to China but due to our never ending needs for cheap goods... china will stay China
Got to leave! May the force be with you all 
Hot_Single_Dude: Got to leave! May the force be with you all
Dude take care.
Hot_Single_Dude: Agree a gain... Chineese are not willing to talk much and the whole regim there is using a lot energy pointing out critics and finding them and disturbing them and their families no matter where in that huge country and even being more than a billion people living there so I understand why they are not willing to talk
A rather big group of new rich living a fairy tell kind of living over there... got it all and can get even more.
I am not sure the situation of human rights will eVEr solve in China... old styled kind of cultur which not easy to break or change what so ever... bribe is common and is forced upon folks and then they assisinate and execute and censor and stuff like impossible to imagine ... pretty on surface a ture hell if folks try to talk freely and getting in trouble with their autorities
Though one thing works... if the flow of money was stopped or disturbed for real to China but due to our never ending needs for cheap goods... china will stay China
A rather big group of new rich living a fairy tell kind of living over there... got it all and can get even more.
I am not sure the situation of human rights will eVEr solve in China... old styled kind of cultur which not easy to break or change what so ever... bribe is common and is forced upon folks and then they assisinate and execute and censor and stuff like impossible to imagine ... pretty on surface a ture hell if folks try to talk freely and getting in trouble with their autorities
Though one thing works... if the flow of money was stopped or disturbed for real to China but due to our never ending needs for cheap goods... china will stay China
My understanding is that slowly human rights as we view them are getting better.
In the west we think of the scale of time differently. What seems like a long time to our culture is nothing to a culture as old as theirs.
chris27292729: The gangsterism of GWB is proven,Obama's not as yet.
You keep claiming proof but not offering any.
You demand others search Google or whatever to see your facts but again, don't offer links to those so called facts.
That is an interesting game to play. When the facts can't be found you can claim the other people did not want to find them or were afraid to admit finding them.
In theory at least.
The problem for you comes when the rest of us refuse to play the game by your rules. Yes, your little playmates will agree with you and spout the usual nonsense but in the end you are fooling no one but yourself.
Post the links to whatever proof or facts you claim to have and let the rest of the people respond to them. Just don't ask us to do your homework for you and then claim to win the debate when we don't fall for that lame trick.
Conrad73: 
Conrad, how did you get a copy of my passport photo?
chris27292729: Care to answer Halliburton's no bidding awarded defence contracts,during the entire GWB era.???
You apparently did not read the link I posted:
In February 2003, with the study done, the Corps of Engineers decided to issue a contract to actually execute the plan that KBR had drawn up for dealing with problems in the Iraqi oil fields. At the end of that month, Army headquarters authorized the Corps to issue a sole-source contract to KBR. (The assignment seemed logical for another reason: Halliburton/KBR put out 350 oil-well fires in Kuwait after the first Gulf War.) “Only KBR, the contractor that developed the complex, classified contingency plans, could commence implementing them on extremely short notice,” Flowers wrote Waxman. “The timing was driven by Central Command’s operational requirement to have support available in advance of possibly imminent hostilities.” Flowers added that the contract was always intended as a temporary “bridge” to a more permanent contract that would be offered for competitive bidding.
The next question was how large the contract should be. That was a difficult problem, because no one knew how big the problem would be. Would all the fields burn? Would none of them? Just a few? The Army assumed a worst-case scenario and decided the contract would be worth any amount between $0 and $7 billion (a common contracting practice known as ID/IQ, which stands for indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity). The $7 billion cap was thought to be sufficient to handle any emergency.
That's a taste. Basically they were the only show for much of the work any way and the best option just like they had been when the Clinton Administration gave then the first no bid contract.
Interesting you managed to ignore the gift from Clinton & co. How do you justify that omission?
katt1017: You apparently did not read the link I posted:
In February 2003, with the study done, the Corps of Engineers decided to issue a contract to actually execute the plan that KBR had drawn up for dealing with problems in the Iraqi oil fields. At the end of that month, Army headquarters authorized the Corps to issue a sole-source contract to KBR. (The assignment seemed logical for another reason: Halliburton/KBR put out 350 oil-well fires in Kuwait after the first Gulf War.) “Only KBR, the contractor that developed the complex, classified contingency plans, could commence implementing them on extremely short notice,” Flowers wrote Waxman. “The timing was driven by Central Command’s operational requirement to have support available in advance of possibly imminent hostilities.” Flowers added that the contract was always intended as a temporary “bridge” to a more permanent contract that would be offered for competitive bidding.
The next question was how large the contract should be. That was a difficult problem, because no one knew how big the problem would be. Would all the fields burn? Would none of them? Just a few? The Army assumed a worst-case scenario and decided the contract would be worth any amount between $0 and $7 billion (a common contracting practice known as ID/IQ, which stands for indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity). The $7 billion cap was thought to be sufficient to handle any emergency.
That's a taste. Basically they were the only show for much of the work any way and the best option just like they had been when the Clinton Administration gave then the first no bid contract.
Interesting you managed to ignore the gift from Clinton & co. How do you justify that omission?
In February 2003, with the study done, the Corps of Engineers decided to issue a contract to actually execute the plan that KBR had drawn up for dealing with problems in the Iraqi oil fields. At the end of that month, Army headquarters authorized the Corps to issue a sole-source contract to KBR. (The assignment seemed logical for another reason: Halliburton/KBR put out 350 oil-well fires in Kuwait after the first Gulf War.) “Only KBR, the contractor that developed the complex, classified contingency plans, could commence implementing them on extremely short notice,” Flowers wrote Waxman. “The timing was driven by Central Command’s operational requirement to have support available in advance of possibly imminent hostilities.” Flowers added that the contract was always intended as a temporary “bridge” to a more permanent contract that would be offered for competitive bidding.
The next question was how large the contract should be. That was a difficult problem, because no one knew how big the problem would be. Would all the fields burn? Would none of them? Just a few? The Army assumed a worst-case scenario and decided the contract would be worth any amount between $0 and $7 billion (a common contracting practice known as ID/IQ, which stands for indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity). The $7 billion cap was thought to be sufficient to handle any emergency.
That's a taste. Basically they were the only show for much of the work any way and the best option just like they had been when the Clinton Administration gave then the first no bid contract.
Interesting you managed to ignore the gift from Clinton & co. How do you justify that omission?
I would have gave that response, but I was reading up on Greece crumbling and all the violence and rioting.
katt1017: It will be good for tourism. They had to sell all of their old ruins to repay the loans from the EU.
It actually sounds like a fairly raw deal for the Greek people. Their government might as well have borrowed from Ice Pick Tony given the terms they agreed to. They will never be able to get out from under the debt.
It actually sounds like a fairly raw deal for the Greek people. Their government might as well have borrowed from Ice Pick Tony given the terms they agreed to. They will never be able to get out from under the debt.
I put in a $1000 bid on one of the ancient ruins.
katt1017: It will be good for tourism. They had to sell all of their old ruins to repay the loans from the EU.
It actually sounds like a fairly raw deal for the Greek people. Their government might as well have borrowed from Ice Pick Tony given the terms they agreed to. They will never be able to get out from under the debt.
It actually sounds like a fairly raw deal for the Greek people. Their government might as well have borrowed from Ice Pick Tony given the terms they agreed to. They will never be able to get out from under the debt.
I put in a $1000 bid on one of the ancient ruins.
ReaderOfSouls: OORAH!!!
She's come to visit my classes a couple of times to talk to the kids about how she has adapted to her dyslexia.
Katt is a natural with kids.
gsmonks: Typical GOP crap. All blather, no substance.
Seems you have to be a compulsive liar to be a Republican these days.
Seems you have to be a compulsive liar to be a Republican these days.
The Canadian Conservative has spoken!
katt1017: Conrad, how did you get a copy of my passport photo?
On the WWW!chris27292729: You tell us which was the country in Europe, GWB had to make a speach and cancelled the last minute for fear of arrest.Who spoke about been arrested under International Law,if the US is not a member of the Internation Court of Justice.
BULSTUFF!
Hot_Single_Dude: No Conrad... what Chris tells is actually the truth. how come you keep forgetting stuff?
He lies,as usual!
menu2: I would have polity excused myelf to attend to the matter instead of just sitting there for almost fifteen minutes.
Exactly,well said.
This POTUS never had the ability to think for himself,he was the executing arm of Cheney, Rumsfeld,and his Dad.-Hot_Single_Dude: Conrad does not know how to read
Seems you gone Illiterate on us,Dude!
chris27292729: Exactly,well said. This POTUS never had the ability to think for himself,he was the executing arm of Cheney, Rumsfeld,and his Dad.-
what would you have done,Chris?Jumped up and running in Circles,screaming?
With all his faults,Bush is the better man,than anyone of you Sadasses badmouthing him!
Conrad73: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_from_prosecution_%28international_law%29http://matzav.com/bush-cancels-switzerland-visit-under-threat-of-protests-efforts-to-arrest-himSeems you gone Illiterate on us,Dude!
youre not illiterate connie --- your ability to see and add and subtract are shot.!!!!
If Menu2 is your Vice President,can i be your secretary of Defence??? A rival company to Halliburton is offering higher persentage for the 3 of us.-
Ccincy: I would've done the very same thing as you .There are ways of doing certain things without frightening little children.
raphael118: youre not illiterate connie --- your ability to see and add and subtract are shot.!!!!
Fact is,you can't arrest Bush,neither inside nor outside the US! Too bad the samething will apply for Barry!
This POTUS never had the ability to think for himself,he was acting as he was told.I wonder when he was governor of Texas,who was behind him,ordering him around.-
menu2: Okay. I know your insisting for me to say, "I would have stayed sitting down".
See the presidents' detail are trained to protect the president. But I would have still politely excused myself without alarming to the incident. The secret service knows percisely how to handle situations as such.
See the presidents' detail are trained to protect the president. But I would have still politely excused myself without alarming to the incident. The secret service knows percisely how to handle situations as such.
chris27292729: This POTUS never had the ability to think for himself,he was acting as he was told.I wonder when he was governor of Texas,who was behind him,ordering him around.-
Google Wiki and Halliburton,is all there.
katt1017: You keep claiming proof but not offering any.
You demand others search Google or whatever to see your facts but again, don't offer links to those so called facts.
That is an interesting game to play. When the facts can't be found you can claim the other people did not want to find them or were afraid to admit finding them.
In theory at least.
The problem for you comes when the rest of us refuse to play the game by your rules. Yes, your little playmates will agree with you and spout the usual nonsense but in the end you are fooling no one but yourself.
Post the links to whatever proof or facts you claim to have and let the rest of the people respond to them. Just don't ask us to do your homework for you and then claim to win the debate when we don't fall for that lame trick.
You demand others search Google or whatever to see your facts but again, don't offer links to those so called facts.
That is an interesting game to play. When the facts can't be found you can claim the other people did not want to find them or were afraid to admit finding them.
In theory at least.
The problem for you comes when the rest of us refuse to play the game by your rules. Yes, your little playmates will agree with you and spout the usual nonsense but in the end you are fooling no one but yourself.
Post the links to whatever proof or facts you claim to have and let the rest of the people respond to them. Just don't ask us to do your homework for you and then claim to win the debate when we don't fall for that lame trick.
chris27292729: Google Wiki and Halliburton,is all there.
Go Google it then!All of it!
I was walking my dog tonight and noticed that he stopped in all the usual spots to water those things which he thought were needing his attention. Night after night the same spots got his attention. No matter how hard I tried to lead him to a different spot he would invariably go to the same places. Suddenly, I got the message--these were his spots and he wanted to water. He wanted them to remembered him, so he marked them again and again as in nights before. Obama's recent budget proposal reminded me of my dog. He has to water those who supported him in the past---his favorite spots, acorn, environmental activist, labor unions, etc. and more. I told my wife about our beloved dogs behavior and she said, "its just the way their little minds work", boy did she say a mouthful. The little minds are active now---protect your trees. Obama doesn't want to spread the wealth, at least not in the traditional way---he only wants to water the old familiar spots with your water.
History will be the judge,how bad he was.-
Conrad73: what would you have done,Chris?
Jumped up and running in Circles,screaming?
With all his faults,Bush is the better man,than anyone of you Sadasses badmouthing him!
Jumped up and running in Circles,screaming?
With all his faults,Bush is the better man,than anyone of you Sadasses badmouthing him!
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Nope I promised that to someone else.