Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal? (842)

Jul 6, 2011 8:28 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Faithfulness: Dude,

We've all been through this before with you. Why are you so slow to learn?

There is nothing honorable about socialized healthcare. There is nothing good in socialized healthcare that allows the government to decide who is to live or die.


The government wants to stop greedy health industry keep deciding who is to live or die Faith... do you want me to Learn all of sudden? You have really been Framed major time if you beleive in what you just told... this is the main reason why universal health care idea ever became and not the opposite! Who is telling you stuff like this? Palin is not even American for god sake but an Alaskan! doh
Jul 6, 2011 8:29 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: But America is no longer a colony of Britain mister TT... it was long time a go and they got kikced out of America and America
became free and America needs money being runned for god sake!

Tepublicanism is just a sad movment of some not knowing a thing folks paid and funded and created by Koch industry in order to distablise America and making them keep making money on America,s dependence on oil and them keep poluting with no body able to stop them what so ever. America is no longer a colony or under brutal british rules... wakey wakey TT


I think that we (tax payers) should pay (tax) the government according to how well it governs. We can take a poll to the value of the Obama administration. Anyone thing that it worth 14trillion in debt? Please raisee your hand now.

But the point is this. Many now are starting to call Obama the 'international president'. Or the 'European president'. He has lost touch with the American people. Another way to say that.....
he no longer represents the interest of the American people.

Think that I am wrong?

Consider Libya. It was some "international parties" that advised him to intercede in Libya.

Consider Obamacare. Obamcare is a socialized health care program straight from Europe.

Consider the Cairo Address. It was for the consumption of 1b Muslims around the world.

We can on here. But it is simple....President Obama ways of governance....is pretty not much in American values and principles. He knows the Constitution well enough to know that he signs the bills passes by Congress and what his POTUS duties are. But that is as far as it gets.
Jul 6, 2011 8:29 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Still... if ur life is facing more trouble here and now because of lack of job... how do you feel a bout Republicans keep fighting this rapidley against your rigths of keep receiving unemployment benefits? Who blocks it in the House of representatives? Have Republicans suggested soultions for the particular problem you are unfrotunatily facing?


Actually, there is a formula that is used to determine the extended federal unemployment benefits, if a state falls below that formula, then those on extended (federal) benefits lose their unemployment. This was voted on by both parties as a measure to save federal dollars.
Jul 6, 2011 8:30 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude: The government wants to stop greedy health industry keep deciding who is to live or die Faith... do you want me to Learn all of sudden? You have really been Framed major time if you beleive in what you just told... this is the main reason why universal health care idea ever became and not the opposite! Who is telling you stuff like this? Palin is not even American for god sake but an Alaskan!

Alaska is part of America.
Jul 6, 2011 8:32 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
raphael118: Swiss bankers? Rush Limbaugh? Anti-american and republican disinformation specialists?you might check in Wikipedia to get the facts- since you do that all the time.
Libertarians do not give a damn a bout facts! They are creating their own kinds of "facts" and then going aggressiv and showing their guns when ever some body asking too many questions doh
Jul 6, 2011 8:37 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: The government wants to stop greedy health industry keep deciding who is to live or die Faith... do you want me to Learn all of sudden? You have really been Framed major time if you beleive in what you just told... this is the main reason why universal health care idea ever became and not the opposite! Who is telling you stuff like this? Palin is not even American for god sake but an Alaskan!


Please tell me Dude that you did just insult the State of Alaska and those citizens currently living, having been born there (ME) and those who are of Alaskan Native ethnicity! (ME).

Here are a couple of links for your education:





The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized (or incorporated) territory on May 11, 1912, and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959.

Up to this point Dude, I've let a lot of remarks just slide off my back, as I figure for the most part you are well-meaning and harmless, but that remark of yours (the one highlighted in bold) really got on my nerves!mumbling scold
Jul 6, 2011 8:38 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Now Cciny... listen to the man and then say what you think? the whole interview please...





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Jul 6, 2011 8:39 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
amahlala: Please tell me Dude that you did just insult the State of Alaska and those citizens currently living, having been born there (ME) and those who are of Alaskan Native ethnicity! (ME).

Here are a couple of links for your education:





The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized (or incorporated) territory on May 11, 1912, and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959.

Up to this point Dude, I've let a lot of remarks just slide off my back, as I figure for the most part you are well-meaning and harmless, but that remark of yours (the one highlighted in bold) really got on my nerves!

You and me both sister!mumbling
Jul 6, 2011 8:40 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Obama promissed to give americans the same kind of health care plans politicians have enjoyed from for years... will it be fair giving the man a real chance proofing this goal is reachable? Any other american presidents have EVER made a promise of this volume?


Why don't you say that the complete and honestway. Or. Obama promised to give Americans the same health care plan that European policians have enjoyed for years.

We are not a copy of Europe. Why is that so hard to understand?
What is good for Europe. Does not mean it is good for the US.
You like high taxes....hey great pay high taxes. I have no problem with it.

But give me a choice between a low tax rate (meaning more disposable income that I can spend) and high tax rate and less disposable income....I choose the first. Why?

It means more things (vacations) I can do with my family. Better food to eat. Better housing. Newer cars to drive and more frequently. In other words a better quality of life. It mean more savings for retirement. More to invest in a busienss or real estate. And a freer life. I choose my vacation. I can choose these other things when I have the income to do so.

Obama wants first to tax the wealthy. But one thing we have learned in the US.....politicians will soon tax were ever the income and money is. If it is with the middle class....they will soon tax the middle class.
Jul 6, 2011 8:40 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: You and me both sister!


hug bouquet
Jul 6, 2011 8:45 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
GACryptic: Dude! YOU REALLY NEED to get a life! Obama is not what he is made up to be and neither is his healthcare reform. When the elderly have to take out of their pockets more than they have in them, that is robbery, not healthcare.

If you lived in the USA, you would not be so hip on this character either. Things are not what you see, nor what you hear, nor what you read. To get deep into this whatever it is called government, you have to listen to those close enough to hear. There are things behind the scenes that you will never know about and how it affects the American people.
Welcome to this thread wine

Well... I do have a life and I hear a lot a bout what is going on over there and you are right... I do not know thw hole thing but what I know is the situation in America after GWB years was rather terrible and 750,000 jobs a mounth were parishing and Recession was reality and Wars as well and then presidnet Obama took over as the captain of a sincking ship as GWB him self admited in his book... I beleive a presindet taking over a country at wars and in deep economical trouble shall be given a fair chance working for solving these problems and there was no honor on Republican kind of agenda attacking him since day one he took over on january 20, 2009!

I know America is in troubled and I know the situation is some how deppressing but things take time and what was destroyed during Eight years at least is not possible to recover just like that! It is actually much easier to destroy than it is to build and every body knows this simple fact regarding any matters!dunno
Jul 6, 2011 8:50 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Ccincy: CAn you re-write your last two sentences dude.They're so scrambled up.


Sure Cciny...

I was watching the interview so I messed up more than usual...

...Not evne one single person in ur own family or people u care a bout and like are going to benefit from these reforms or Medicare or Medicade which all are created by Democrats and Definately NOT because of any kinds of GOP ideologies what so
ever?? Do you not know even One single person benefiting or is going to benefit from these reforms or from Medicade or Medicare Cciny?
Jul 6, 2011 8:51 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
GACryptic
GACrypticGACrypticJesup, Georgia USA5 Threads 403 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Obama promissed to give americans the same kind of health care plans politicians have enjoyed from for years... will it be fair giving the man a real chance proofing this goal is reachable? Any other american presidents have EVER made a promise of this volume?


If you had seen the ObamaCare that was for the people, and the health care Congress is actually receiving, you would have to see the difference. However, you can't see it. Why? I think because you have your eyesight based on trash that you can dream off the internet, without any true knowledge of what you are really posting.
Jul 6, 2011 8:52 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
GACryptic
GACrypticGACrypticJesup, Georgia USA5 Threads 403 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: The government wants to stop greedy health industry keep deciding who is to live or die Faith... do you want me to Learn all of sudden? You have really been Framed major time if you beleive in what you just told... this is the main reason why universal health care idea ever became and not the opposite! Who is telling you stuff like this? Palin is not even American for god sake but an Alaskan!


Dude: Alaska is part of the United States. Go back and read your history scold
Jul 6, 2011 8:54 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
GACryptic
GACrypticGACrypticJesup, Georgia USA5 Threads 403 Posts
ttom500:
We can on here. But it is simple....President Obama ways of governance....is pretty not much in American values and principles. He knows the Constitution well enough to know that he signs the bills passes by Congress and what his POTUS duties are. But that is as far as it gets.


I think he knows enough to be dangerous. And he knows how to bluff well.
Jul 6, 2011 8:55 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Actractorguy: Dude

I live it every day. Saying that I'm not telling the absolute truth and spouting the Republican crap is wrong. The VA is the government at work. I have no reason to lie and I certainly don't go spouting off Republican drivel.

I think I'll pass on tweeting the twatter. I'm sure it's some dem slime ball just itching to get me to donate to the party.

My State has no control over or say in the VA health care system.
I am not telling you lie cheers

Just ... there are good sides of these reforms for you even I am definate and the whole thing is not just bad as Republicans keep claiming.
Jul 6, 2011 8:57 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
GACryptic
GACrypticGACrypticJesup, Georgia USA5 Threads 403 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Welcome to this thread

Well... I do have a life and I hear a lot a bout what is going on over there and you are right... I do not know thw hole thing but what I know is the situation in America after GWB years was rather terrible and 750,000 jobs a mounth were parishing and Recession was reality and Wars as well and then presidnet Obama took over as the captain of a sincking ship as GWB him self admited in his book... I beleive a presindet taking over a country at wars and in deep economical trouble shall be given a fair chance working for solving these problems and there was no honor on Republican kind of agenda attacking him since day one he took over on january 20, 2009!

I know America is in troubled and I know the situation is some how deppressing but things take time and what was destroyed during Eight years at least is not possible to recover just like that! It is actually much easier to destroy than it is to build and every body knows this simple fact regarding any matters!


correction: What was destroyed -- NOT IN EIGHT YEARS -- but in a lifetime of presidents. If you think you can blame one, then blame them all, but make sure you blame the right ones, not the left ones.
Jul 6, 2011 8:57 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
katt1017: Endorsing overthrowing of spiritual leaders as well as government leaders by the Obama administration?

Nice to see how easy it is for you to lump a group into one hateful little stereotype and then endorse them being dealth with in a way the suits you.
what spiritual leaders?confused
Jul 6, 2011 9:00 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
raphael118: Wikipedia too?

I'm not defending ever known accusation against Annenberg. I'm accusing that claim of conrad's source (which actually is super biased) of a deception and fraud that actually does harm to my country.
I am absolutely agree with your concern Raphael thumbs up
Jul 6, 2011 9:03 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Pretty simple Dude. Open and transperent means just that. The Administration should go ahead give the guys name and religious affliation. The media should go ahead and print it up. In other words....be honest.

Let the chips fall were they might. Trying to kick them around for some political goal to appease and protect Islam...is nuts. WE are not going to make them happy by lieing, covering or always apologizing to them.

The entire Marine Corp was effected by this one man's acts. Obama owes it to the Marine Corp....his Marine Corp that is placing their lives on the line for him...and the country to clear them of the suspicion of these shootings.

Now that we know it was a Jhadist Muslim, it makes sense. We are mature enough to handle it. But Newt Grinrich should not be the one going public with the info. He is not in office. Obama is. It should come from the White House or a DoD press release.
He will get triled and then you will know detailes TT... I am sorry but you live in a modern country based of democray and on human rights and got a jusitce system. I know this fact is a sour one for you to consumes but that,s it dunno comfort
Jul 6, 2011 9:05 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: So tell us, Dude. What is Obama's policy on Iran?
You will know some detailes when it is done. wink
Jul 6, 2011 9:39 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: what spiritual leaders?


The Mullahs.
Jul 6, 2011 9:39 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
SCatlyn
SCatlynSCatlynBrecon, South Glamorgan, Wales UK5 Threads 2,166 Posts
Conrad73: Real Estate Tax is now LawSlipped in through the Obamacare-Bill!
Sneaky as Crap.

this when you vote in Nov.
More bad news from Obamacare especially for the real estate market!

Real Estate Tax is now Law

This is for all of you that mighy be interested in selling or buying a home in the future!

It would have been nice if this were publicized BEFORE the vote. I

wonder what is in the rest of the 2700 pages that no one read....

Sounds like escrow people will now be tax collectors.

Under the new health care bill - did you know that all real estate

transactions are subject to a 3.8% "Sales Tax"?

If you sell your $400,000 home, this will be a $15,200 tax.Seems People did Remember in November!

Click on the PIC fro the large Version,so you can see the Fraud that was perpetrated!
And this is just one instance!
Plenty more Trojans in that Bill.
Yes, this is horrendous. My ex was telling me awhile back how things are going to get really bad - we'd been discussing about "our" house that is paid-in-full. So we decided not to sell and divide the assets, but to keep it as an asset itself for one spouse to live in.

When I saw this post earlier, I showed it to him and asked if he knew about this. He said yes, it's exactly why he had told me things were going to get really bad, and why we made the decision we did.

Excellent job on the FACTS, Conrad! thumbs up
Jul 6, 2011 9:44 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: There is no such thing as fair for US citizens.
Fair forced auto insurance is crap!
Fair forced health insurance will also be crap!
It's time to change plans and go small.
Small business and better service.
JMHO
fighting with insurance companies.
Welcome to this thread wine

I am sorry you are in fight with insurence companies because I know it is a tough fight moping

Would small plans being totaly fair? How come? Would you kind of being in toal control and demanding care if the little one chosed to go bank rupted and shifted urs and others money to Lichtenstein or some thing? dunno
Jul 6, 2011 9:46 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: I think that we (tax payers) should pay (tax) the government according to how well it governs. We can take a poll to the value of the Obama administration. Anyone thing that it worth 14trillion in debt? Please raisee your hand now.

But the point is this. Many now are starting to call Obama the 'international president'. Or the 'European president'. He has lost touch with the American people. Another way to say that.....
he no longer represents the interest of the American people.

Think that I am wrong?

Consider Libya. It was some "international parties" that advised him to intercede in Libya.

Consider Obamacare. Obamcare is a socialized health care program straight from Europe.

Consider the Cairo Address. It was for the consumption of 1b Muslims around the world.

We can on here. But it is simple....President Obama ways of governance....is pretty not much in American values and principles. He knows the Constitution well enough to know that he signs the bills passes by Congress and what his POTUS duties are. But that is as far as it gets.


And still ... not all America is a Republican America mister TT conversing
Jul 6, 2011 9:49 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
amahlala: Actually, there is a formula that is used to determine the extended federal unemployment benefits, if a state falls below that formula, then those on extended (federal) benefits lose their unemployment. This was voted on by both parties as a measure to save federal dollars.


Yes but most of those who voted on this were *Republicans and the suggestion was borught in by Republicans as well ... is it ok Republicans holding unemployed America as hostiges so some of their rich supporters can keep making tons of money while the rest of u guys are struggling in ur every day lives? dunno
Jul 6, 2011 9:56 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Jul 6, 2011 9:59 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
amahlala: Please tell me Dude that you did just insult the State of Alaska and those citizens currently living, having been born there (ME) and those who are of Alaskan Native ethnicity! (ME).

Here are a couple of links for your education:





The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized (or incorporated) territory on May 11, 1912, and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959.

Up to this point Dude, I've let a lot of remarks just slide off my back, as I figure for the most part you are well-meaning and harmless, but that remark of yours (the one highlighted in bold) really got on my nerves!
No!You misundertood my post...

Alaska is a fabulous and very important part of America but I refered to the Secession party of Alaska which Palin and her hub as well have been a part on... dunno
Jul 6, 2011 10:02 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Why don't you say that the complete and honestway. Or. Obama promised to give Americans the same health care plan that European policians have enjoyed for years.

We are not a copy of Europe. Why is that so hard to understand?
What is good for Europe. Does not mean it is good for the US.
You like high taxes....hey great pay high taxes. I have no problem with it.

But give me a choice between a low tax rate (meaning more disposable income that I can spend) and high tax rate and less disposable income....I choose the first. Why?

It means more things (vacations) I can do with my family. Better food to eat. Better housing. Newer cars to drive and more frequently. In other words a better quality of life. It mean more savings for retirement. More to invest in a busienss or real estate. And a freer life. I choose my vacation. I can choose these other things when I have the income to do so.

Obama wants first to tax the wealthy. But one thing we have learned in the US.....politicians will soon tax were ever the income and money is. If it is with the middle class....they will soon tax the middle class.


Europe is an ally TT and not a Saudi Arabia your GOP guys are in deep going love with and dreaming a bout copying and pasting upon America doh
Jul 6, 2011 10:04 PM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
GACryptic: Dude: Alaska is part of the United States. Go back and read your history
Of course! Since 1912 and an imprtant part of the states and absolutely fabulous state as well... but I just refred to Alaska independent party and stuff ...handshake

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