Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal? (842)

Jul 7, 2011 8:17 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: That Guy is really sticking in your Craw,ain't he?Good for you!


Yes Conrad... the wonderful people of Israel do deserve a much better leader than BIBI of urs whom have caused Israel a lot trouble and all this because he does not like president Obama and feels threatened since he knows president Obama is going to cause a real peace deal between Israel and palestinians during his turms on power and then the whole money making machine of Fear mongerers will suffor major time.

Netanyahou is a real lousy politician and absolutely bad for Israel,s very benefits... the entire ultra right winger regim of the time being in Israel is bribed and you know this as well but since they kind of help your guys banking business, you love them! tongue
Jul 7, 2011 8:23 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
DiveBomber: Thats why the politicians REFUSE to be on the same health care plan that they want to push onto the people!!


You are actually not following the reality regarding this one Dive... all GOP guys all over America who are fighting against regular americans right to have a heath care coverage no matter poor or not... have kept their own kinds of federal gov. coverage and are not giving it a way. They just "talk" you see? Your most reasonable challenge should be to find out when a Republican some body claims some thing , find out what the chup actually does in reality! rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 7, 2011 8:25 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: starting to malign Caine now,Dude,who has more experience of how to run a successful Operation in his little finger,than your Guy has in his whole Body?

Yep,Free Market Competition drives up Prices!
Where the Heck do you hail from!
And you are not even talented enough being a Hamburger man rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 7, 2011 8:28 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
bohemianjack: Michelle Bachmann is a nut ball, beyond that don't get it. Wait...

You trying to mock me.


"A wise old owl lived in an oak, the more he saw the less he spoke, the less he spoke the more he heard." ~author unknown
applause thumbs up yay
Jul 7, 2011 8:29 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
DiveBomber: Oblowme Care=unconstitutional & illegal
It is up to judges to find out... and so far not a thing tongue
Jul 7, 2011 8:32 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
bohemianjack: You don't know do ya?


"When you run out of red, use blue!" Pablo Picasso, on flexibility and imagination
Fabulous quote ...wow thumbs up
Jul 7, 2011 8:35 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: http://obamaforwards.com/2010/02/04/StampMalfunction.aspx
Crap! barf
Jul 7, 2011 8:37 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: It is up to judges to find out... and so far not a thing


So tell me Dude. Why is the Obama administration afraid to go directly to the Supreme Court? Could it possibly be that they know it's against the Constitution and the longer they prolong a final ruling the more money they can rake in without having to justify it.
Jul 7, 2011 8:43 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Just checked out Ken Deffeyses new book. "When Oil Peaked"

I wanted to see what he says about Shale oil and Cracking.

If you do not remember Mr. Deffeyses, he is the geologist that predicted that the world's oil reserve would be consumed and that the future for the fuel was limited. It might be noted, he was a geologist for Shell oil when that was written.. Just maybe Shell benefits from the world considering oil supplies to be limited.

But to cut the chase. He stills maintain his position that the country will have a shortage. Even in light of the shale oil developments and fracking of oil wells.

So? Not sure if he is seeing the data on Shale oil that I am.
He admits that the US has vast shale fields. But thinks that they will provide a 50 year supply.

I am seeing numbers for much longer supply than that. But to quote him.

Mr. Deffeyes, on page 107 "Once you know that oil source rock exist, it is not difficult to find them on the ordinary well logs. The primary indication is the resistance of the rock to the flow of electricity. During the early 1920s, downloads electrical resistance measurement were one of the foundations that Pierre and Marcel Schlemberger used to build their company.
What a stack of ordinary shale, the oil source rocks stand out as having higher electrical resistance. A secondary help comes from a downhole radiation counter. Typically, a few parts per million of uranium are found in organic-rich source rock. The
uranium is there because the oxygen-poor environoment that preserved the organic matter also reduces water-soluble oxidzed uranium into an insoluble form.

As the map on page 102 shows, there are about twenty areas being actively explored for shale gas in the US. Halliburton estimates that total recoverable shale might be one thousand trillion cubic feet, equivalent to a fifty-year supply at our present usage rate. Gas from coal beds and shale gas represent a game changing opportunity. It won't fully solve our energy problems, but it could be a important help."

In looking at the map of located Shale oil....it is interesting to note that the following states are nearly completely underground shale oil fields. They are Michigan, Pennesylvia, New York, West Virgina. Texas is about 1/3 shale oil field. Ohio is about 1/2 Shale oil.

So far smaller find sof shale oil in Montana and the Dakotas have driven their economy into having some of the lowest unemployment figures in the country. Wyoming has significant shale oil fields in it. Smaller fields in Colorado and Utah exits. As in Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Lousiana, Mississippi, Alabama.

And I heard of finds in California that he is not showing.

Deffenes also says on page 102. "Mature oil source rocks, those that have already delivered their oil are a new and important source of natural gas. An old-fashion land rush developed to lease potentially productive areas. However, the wells are so expensive that low natural-gas prices counld make much of the area uneconomic to drill."

So we start to see the environomentist response to shale oil in Deffeyese words here. They are costly to drill(will not take down the pump price). There will be a land rush (fear mongering). It will only last for 50 years.(limit supply)

But it is a "game changing" opportunity. Nothing like talking both side of the mouth at the same time.

So my thinking? Shale oil is spread across the country. So it is already near to the markets. It needs to be refined and stored locally to give a low cost and longer term fuel source. Cost of delivery is minimized then. Helping to control the price at the pump.

Some states can easily be shale oil exporters. They have vast fields of shale oil. Fracking technology improvements in the future will reduce the production cost and increased production. Increased production when combined with our reducing consumption will reduce the number of needed wells and extend the life of the energy source.
Jul 7, 2011 8:54 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Albertaghost: But you're not as good as Conrad in the brevity dept though.

Might try shorter quotes that have squat to do with the discussion - just a tip.


Republicans sleep in twin beds—some even in separate rooms. That is why there are more Democrats.

WILL STANTON, Ladies' Home Journal, Nov. 1962
tongue
Jul 7, 2011 9:01 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
jvaski: MORE Republican Manufactured HogWash to stir the pot !

This has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare
We've had mandatory extimated state real estate tax due at sale long before Obama took office ......probably started in 2007 !
I have paid it myself numerous times in the past years ......
What Crap you sometimes present Conrad !

Again ....This has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare !!



Oh yes it does.I ran across some info last night and I'd post it here but I doubt if you'd understand it.laugh
Jul 7, 2011 9:04 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude: Yes Conrad... the wonderful people of Israel do deserve a much better leader than BIBI of urs whom have caused Israel a lot trouble and all this because he does not like president Obama and feels threatened since he knows president Obama is going to cause a real peace deal between Israel and palestinians during his turms on power and then the whole money making machine of Fear mongerers will suffor major time.

Netanyahou is a real lousy politician and absolutely bad for Israel,s very benefits... the entire ultra right winger regim of the time being in Israel is bribed and you know this as well but since they kind of help your guys banking business, you love them!
Have yout Pick!
Bet we can find a danish Bank or two in the List!rolling on the floor laughing devil



Banks from all over the Globe,as usual,you're full of that Brown Stuff,and it ain't TOBLERONE!
Jul 7, 2011 9:05 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude: Republicans sleep in twin beds—some even in separate rooms. That is why there are more Democrats.

WILL STANTON, Ladies' Home Journal, Nov. 1962
>Actually the reason for more Democrats is,that there are more Fools in this world,and they breed faster!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 7, 2011 9:07 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Ccincy: Oh yes it does.I ran across some info last night and I'd post it here but I doubt if you'd understand it.


Show us .........roll eyes doh
Jul 7, 2011 9:07 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Dude, I get arrested here on felony charges. My photo and my name just made the morning papers. This Muslim Marine.....is caught with explosives and weapons and has fired them at various buildings (including windows and at the people behind them) in the DC area......and they cannot say his name? Cannot place his pic in the media?

Clearly this is because because he is a Muslim. That is the Obama's political correctness is keeping him from being identified or placed into the media.

All the time, young marines are suspects for his crimes. Obama and the media failed his men. Failed to clear them of the suspicion, when they could have.

This Muslim Marine showed himself at the shooting incidents in a Marine Corp uniform. That was done on purpose to demean the honor of Corp. To cause distrust of and within the Corp. The Corp takes that very seriously. So should President Obama.


Still... America is based on justice. I am sure every body takes this situation very seriously and until neither you or I knowing more detailes and the out come of the trial... well... ee do not know dunno
Jul 7, 2011 9:08 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
DiveBomber: Oblowme wants to disarm us and abolish our 2nd Amendment rights.



Oh for gosh sakes I've gotten burnt out about how people going to lose their 2nd Amendment rights.


The governor of Ohio is passing something here in Ohio where people can carry guns to bars,sporting events etc.so i don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.
Jul 7, 2011 9:08 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude: Yes Conrad... the wonderful people of Israel do deserve a much better leader than BIBI of urs whom have caused Israel a lot trouble and all this because he does not like president Obama and feels threatened since he knows president Obama is going to cause a real peace deal between Israel and palestinians during his turms on power and then the whole money making machine of Fear mongerers will suffor major time.

Netanyahou is a real lousy politician and absolutely bad for Israel,s very benefits... the entire ultra right winger regim of the time being in Israel is bribed and you know this as well but since they kind of help your guys banking business, you love them!
Some water might help,if it's stuck in your Craw that bad!

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Jul 7, 2011 9:10 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
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Jul 7, 2011 9:10 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
AtwoZ: Just curious,-what does "kister" mean?



It's German.
Jul 7, 2011 9:11 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude: Wow! You are finally begining to write some thing instead of what the heck u have been doing all way

Now... for the first Obama will win in 2012 presidential election ... Wait and see

For the second... what is the catch for you personally with a Republican presidnet on charge? what scares you most from dems and is this a bout being scread of paying more back to the country you claim to love? You are very angry I can see and need anger mannagment or some thing ASAP ... what is so good with Republicans on charge? How did GOP between 2001 and 2008 and did GWB ever actually won back in year 2000?


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Jul 7, 2011 9:13 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Dagosto: Dude. I am a strong supporter of Obama and a dedicated Progressive. But lawks amercy, your threads are boring, Boring, BORING! Give it a rest already. Get a girlfriend.
Good to see you and welcome to this thread cheers

It is ok if you dislike my threads and what I write but please if you want... stay and conversate with ohters at least? Many interesting issues to discuss and me a damn foreigner not knowing a damn thing ... cool! Others who do participate in these threads may say some thing you want to discuss in order to support your points of view. dunno
It is absolutely necessary bringing in progressiv points of view in order to make necessary discussions even better.
Welcome to this thread Dagosto... really great to see ur participation and I certainly hope you wish to contribute cheers
Jul 7, 2011 9:14 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude: I condumn the actions of the few and not the whole state... the same a bout Republican party for example! Critisizing and condumnation of the few GOP heads does not mean condumnation of the whole country you see?
now ain't that dumn?rolling on the floor laughing
Which one are we addressing this afternoon?
Jul 7, 2011 9:15 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Am sorry Albert. I did not read the young ladies post that way.
I think she was saying that being employed and having your tax monies go to unemployed is inheritantly unfair.
Me... understood the exact same from her post TT dunno
Jul 7, 2011 9:16 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
jvaski: Show us .........


Sorry but I'm not doing your homework for you.tongue
Jul 7, 2011 9:23 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
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Dr. Kevorkian would have had more Compassion with the People,than the Dogs who wrote that Iniquity of a Healthbill called Obamacare!
Biggest Ripoff in a Century!
Jul 7, 2011 9:24 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Gesh Dude you insult the majority of Americans now.....LOL.........The Tea party and REP combined are the majority in the country. The mid term proved that.


No TT... Zero! Nada! Nope! No freaking way GOP represents a majority of America what so ever ... Dream on! Ain,t gonna happen and all what ahppens is ur guys absusing majority of americans lack of interest for politics and the very complicated rules of engagment in elections generally in America which is getting more and more complicated thanks to Republican power holdes who HATE the gots of free elections... and getting in the House once in a while and that,s it!

Just imagine your guys do not want Homeless participating in elections for example as if being a homeless person means not being american and no have a right to participate and at least doing what the person can with one single Vote... and this example is just the top of the iceberg which absolutely shows that some body got to educate GOP on what democracy means for a begining! doh
Jul 7, 2011 9:25 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
Ccincy: Oh yes it does.I ran across some info last night and I'd post it here but I doubt if you'd understand it.
some Gems here.

Jul 7, 2011 9:31 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Still... America is based on justice. I am sure every body takes this situation very seriously and until neither you or I knowing more detailes and the out come of the trial... well... ee do not know


They can place him in the same brig cell in Leavenworth with the wikileak Private Banning for all I care. One can recite Jhadist rhetoric and the other can type on a imagery computer.grin
Jul 7, 2011 9:33 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: No TT... Zero! Nada! Nope! No freaking way GOP represents a majority of America what so ever ... Dream on! Ain,t gonna happen and all what ahppens is ur guys absusing majority of americans lack of interest for politics and the very complicated rules of engagment in elections generally in America which is getting more and more complicated thanks to Republican power holdes who HATE the gots of free elections... and getting in the House once in a while and that,s it!

Just imagine your guys do not want Homeless participating in elections for example as if being a homeless person means not being american and no have a right to participate and at least doing what the person can with one single Vote... and this example is just the top of the iceberg which absolutely shows that some body got to educate GOP on what democracy means for a begining!


All can say to that is....it happened in the 2010 mid term. By a land side.
Jul 7, 2011 9:33 AM CST Obama wants a fair health care coverage for all americans... why GOP attacks this honorable goal?
jvaski: MORE Republican Manufactured HogWash to stir the pot !

This has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare
We've had mandatory extimated state real estate tax due at sale long before Obama took office ......probably started in 2007 !
I have paid it myself numerous times in the past years ......
What Crap you sometimes present Conrad !

Again ....This has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare !!
Bullmalarky,JV!

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