Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans? (823)

Sep 5, 2012 4:14 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Of course America is Way better off today than it was during the last years of GWB and GOP on power:
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Could it have been better? Of course it could ... but HEY! There was a horrible huge all time Recession going on not only in America, but in the entire world almost, Two big wars were going on... and concidering the reality ... ahievements of president Obamas administration have been terrirfic and actually absolutely amirable and as told before a million times... if Europe had done the same, and had taken cared of the stiatuion as Obama administration did ... WE would all be better off to day.
Sep 5, 2012 4:17 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Says the man who is supporting a secterian movement whose former "president" do not even Dare to show him self in some states of his own country, and can not even travel to Canada or many places in Europe because he will be arrested!


I have been hoping we would get there. Bishop Tutu's request to place Blair and Bush in the Haque for Iraqi War crimes. And how the Obama administration total ignored it. This goes back a few days. But the Arch Bishop Tutu said that Blair and Bush should be arrested and sent to the Hague for war crimes in Iraq. The Obama administration yawned.
But who knows, Maybe it will be the big news of DNC. So hope most liberal around the world today.

My first instinct is to say.....what does a religious and spiritual leader have to with national or international justice. But then I remember that.....social justice thingee that liberals cling to more than God, Guns and the Bible. You know were you can make the rules up as you go along. Don't like someone....bring a little social justice on him.

Were you can use the Bible with the claim that it sets a case for social justice! Arch Bishop Tutu does. Crack open the bible and out comes some social justice.....get them war crime criminals Blair and Bush!! Arch Bishop Tutu appeals to the social justice of Barack Obama.
Who?

Who cannot even use national laws to prosecute the three black panther on election crimes. Who cannot tell us about fast and furious. Who cannot stop illegal aliens from crossing the south west border to commit crimes in the US. Don't you think that asking Obama to do a act of social justice, when he cannot enforce the national laws of country is just asking to much of him?

Funny Arch Bishop did not say that about Sadam Hussien or Osama bin Laden. Must be selective social justice then.
Sep 5, 2012 4:33 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: I have been hoping we would get there. Bishop Tutu's request to place Blair and Bush in the Haque for Iraqi War crimes. And how the Obama administration total ignored it. This goes back a few days. But the Arch Bishop Tutu said that Blair and Bush should be arrested and sent to the Hague for war crimes in Iraq. The Obama administration yawned.
But who knows, Maybe it will be the big news of DNC. So hope most liberal around the world today.

My first instinct is to say.....what does a religious and spiritual leader have to with national or international justice. But then I remember that.....social justice thingee that liberals cling to more than God, Guns and the Bible. You know were you can make the rules up as you go along. Don't like someone....bring a little social justice on him.

Were you can use the Bible with the claim that it sets a case for social justice! Arch Bishop Tutu does. Crack open the bible and out comes some social justice.....get them war crime criminals Blair and Bush!! Arch Bishop Tutu appeals to the social justice of Barack Obama.
Who?

Who cannot even use national laws to prosecute the three black panther on election crimes. Who cannot tell us about fast and furious. Who cannot stop illegal aliens from crossing the south west border to commit crimes in the US. Don't you think that asking Obama to do a act of social justice, when he cannot enforce the national laws of country is just asking to much of him?

Funny Arch Bishop did not say that about Sadam Hussien or Osama bin Laden. Must be selective social justice then.


Oh yeah... thanks reminding of this TT...

Ladeis and Gentlemen

I am Hot Single Dude and I am Denfiately and All way Endorsing Fabulous words of THE Honrable Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu, regarding GWB and Blair applause peace yay

And this is for the Dang GOP, and supporters of THAT sad and mad Regim of horror and Hatered tongue

You can really never imgaine how fabulously I laughed, when heard that THE honorable Nelson Mandela refused to meet with GWB back then
rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 5, 2012 4:36 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Sep 5, 2012 4:38 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Of course America is Way better off today than it was during the last years of GWB and GOP on power:Could it have been better? Of course it could ... but HEY! There was a horrible huge all time Recession going on not only in America, but in the entire world almost, Two big wars were going on... and concidering the reality ... ahievements of president Obamas administration have been terrirfic and actually absolutely amirable and as told before a million times... if Europe had done the same, and had taken cared of the stiatuion as Obama administration did ... WE would all be better off to day.


Pretty graphic Dude. Several questions.

Figuew 1 & 2) Why is the unemployment higher 8.3% now that when Obama took office? If he making jobs?



3) how does a 1.5 GNP growth rate make itself bigger than the GWB 2% growth rate in 2008

4)Household income is down under Obama administratoin.



5) Mortgage foreclosers have grown with the unemployment


6) I can understand corporate profits growing when they billions is stimulus funds....

Dude you are cherry picking economic data to find any number that says the economy has improved. Live on main street USA.....and you know the honest answer.

It is the slowest economic recoveries in the history of the country.
FDR had it done in 4 years after the Great Depression.
Sep 5, 2012 4:40 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Pretty graphic Dude. Several questions.

Figuew 1 & 2) Why is the unemployment higher 8.3% now that when Obama took office? If he making jobs?



3) how does a 1.5 GNP growth rate make itself bigger than the GWB 2% growth rate in 2008

4)Household income is down under Obama administratoin.



5) Mortgage foreclosers have grown with the unemployment


6) I can understand corporate profits growing when they billions is stimulus funds....

Dude you are cherry picking economic data to find any number that says the economy has improved. Live on main street USA.....and you know the honest answer.

It is the slowest economic recoveries in the history of the country.
FDR had it done in 4 years after the Great Depression.


Well RECESSION mister TT... Comprende?

roll eyes
Sep 5, 2012 4:44 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts


Obama cannot keep the country fed, Dude. Sure a drought happened in this final year of this term. But we store grain. He let our energy prices increase that effects the distribution cost of food and cost at the market place.

He eats like a king.....18m families struggle to eat.
Sep 5, 2012 4:48 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/18-million-u-households-struggling-feed-families-212702600.html?_esi=1

Obama cannot keep the country fed, Dude. Sure a drought happened in this final year of this term. But we store grain. He let our energy prices increase that effects the distribution cost of food and cost at the market place.

He eats like a king.....18m families struggle to eat.




Global food prices jumped 10% in July from the month before, driven up by the severe Midwest drought which has pushed the price of grains to record levels, the World Bank reported Thursday.

The price of maize and wheat rose by 25% from June to July, and soybeans rose by 17%, according to the Washington-based organization.
Sep 5, 2012 4:49 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/18-million-u-households-struggling-feed-families-212702600.html?_esi=1

Obama cannot keep the country fed, Dude. Sure a drought happened in this final year of this term. But we store grain. He let our energy prices increase that effects the distribution cost of food and cost at the market place.

He eats like a king.....18m families struggle to eat.


And ZE freak Romney can? Get the fick out of here rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 5, 2012 4:58 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: And ZE freak Romney can? Get the fick out of here


Like it or not most of us here make more money with Republicans in office than we do with Democrats. That has been true all my life, and even more so over the last 30 I worked.
Sep 5, 2012 5:10 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
IamTab: http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-world-food-prices-rose-10-percent-july-pushed-by-midwest-drought-20120830,0,1812447.story

Global food prices jumped 10% in July from the month before, driven up by the severe Midwest drought which has pushed the price of grains to record levels, the World Bank reported Thursday.

The price of maize and wheat rose by 25% from June to July, and soybeans rose by 17%, according to the Washington-based organization.


A certain reason why sending another anti environment lousy GOP on power is absolutely wrong! dunno
Sep 5, 2012 5:12 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
IamTab: Like it or not most of us here make more money with Republicans in office than we do with Democrats. That has been true all my life, and even more so over the last 30 I worked.


Yeah .. one keeps supporting what candidate is better for him or her personally, and majority of americans are not in the same situation as you are. Majority rules and that is the real meaning of a true democracy professor
Sep 5, 2012 5:15 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Michelle Obama "We don't begrudge anyone's success or care that others that had much more they did.....in they (her parents) admired it. They simply believed that fundlamental American promise even if you did not start out with much. If you worked hard and do what you are suppose to do. You should be able to build a decent live for yourself and even a better life for your children."



Anne Romney.I am the daughter of a welsh coal miner. He was determined.
Determined that his kids would get out of the mines. My dad got his first job when he was 6 years old in a little village in Wales. Cleaning bottles. When he was 15, he moved to the United States.
And to the great state of Michigan.



But you watch. Anne Romney will be painted as a rich woman with a horse in the Olympics. And Michelle Obama will be the poor woman in the White House, with over 200 aides.



DNC just changed its language of the Platform on 'God' and 'Jerasulem'
Taking a voice 2/3 call , 3 times the DNC considers the motion passed.

The DEM are blaming the RNC for making the point to the absent of 'God'
and 'Jerasulem' forcing them to have the voice roll call.

By the way to me.....it sound 50 / 50 each time.

Oh please the next time anyone says Mitt Romney is a flip flopper....tell them the entire DEM party flipped and flopped during the DNC....LOL.

DEM saw a total disaster coming here. And it was. So much for those 469 LGBTs getting their "Godless" platform in.
Sep 5, 2012 5:50 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
IamTab: Both parties are selling snake oil, it's a question which is more greasy!! And that's hard to tell as both are pretty damn greasy!


Telling this and supporting Republicans any way? For what? making a little more money you will have to pay all if a serious illness hits your self or a loved one of urs? Less police officers arouind and then arming people as crazy and giving trust of protection of ur family to Wacos better armed than you self? No possibility for your kids having a propper edcation unless you are ready to pay tens of tousands of dollers a year? Countinuation of horrible effects of global warming and living undr a GOP regim which number one priority is denying Global warming and fighting against a 99 procent of the entire world,s scientists who are warning against the same? You persoanlly are so sure a bout making more money with Romney on charge but Hey... what ever you got and way more of that can be taken from you if hitted bya serious illness and if Republicans having it their way and taking a way America,s medicare and really able of demolishing ACA... Romney wife received a great help when ill but Hey! Her hub had no problems a couple of millions of dollers on that... what a bout you? What a bout a huge majority of Americans generally? Can you afford that kind of money and what a bout you loved ones? Your friends? Your neighbors?
Sep 5, 2012 5:54 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
ttom500: Barack Obama got the platform change on 'God' and Jerasulem. I thought he would be above using 'God' for political gain. But hey like REV Wright said....he is just a politician.

And they were areas still left out. On Isreali issues.

This was really poorly done. Like the DNC is confused. All they had to do was copy the platform of 2008. So my thinking, it was a political stunt. To get those Christian Conservatives and the Tea Party screaming.
When that did not happen.....


2008 is like a busted play in football, now you must scramble! It looks like the DNC when scrambled eggs, their not racing to anywhere thats for sure.
Sep 5, 2012 6:01 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Sep 5, 2012 6:05 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
300,000 jobs total or 75,000 a year and @ $5 T thats $66,666,666,666.66 per job and most are low wage jobs.
Sep 5, 2012 6:06 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts


DAMN O is as bad at jobs as at loans to companies that will go bankrupt
Sep 5, 2012 6:06 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
IamTab: 2008 is like a busted play in football, now you must scramble! It looks like the DNC when scrambled eggs, their not racing to anywhere thats for sure.


Right now QB Obama scrambling with the ball 25 yards behind the line of Scrimmage.....has a defensive tackle (Mitt Romney in his face) and defensive end (Paul Ryan coming hard from the side). His sole blocker Biden, was run over by Ryan on a power move.

Will he throw a wounded duck for a REP interception? Get taken down for a 25 yard lose on 4th down play? Fumble to Ryan who walks in with with TD?

Only November's election will tell..............rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 5, 2012 6:13 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
A prediction. One year after he ends his first term in office.

Barack Obama will own two................

Sep 5, 2012 6:15 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts


Lousy GOPtooneys have been creating 24 million new jobs uinder their regims , while Democrats have been creating 42 millions of american jobs mister TT...

Sep 5, 2012 6:20 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: A prediction. One year after he ends his first term in office.

Barack Obama will own two................



No TT... Obama is not that type of fellow what so ever and when his two turms are over as president he will keep working on humanitarian missions like president Carter and beside he will keep working creating a real and stable peace possible where ever on Earth...

Now...

Listen to THE lADY of America:http://www.c-span.org/DNC/Live/

cheering cheering cheering yay
Sep 5, 2012 6:21 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: No TT... Obama is not that type of fellow what so ever and when his two turms are over as president he will keep working on humanitarian missions like president Carter and beside he will keep working creating a real and stable peace possible where ever on Earth...

Now...

Listen to THE lADY of America:http://www.c-span.org/DNC/Live/




yay
Sep 5, 2012 6:44 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Lousy GOPtooneys have been creating 24 million new jobs uinder their regims , while Democrats have been creating 42 millions of american jobs mister TT...




Michael Tomasky (born 1960) is a liberal American columnist

Clinton had the tech bubble, so the techies made the jobs not Clinton, so scratch 20.8 million jobs right there
Carter deregulated the banks, and we all see the banksters and the trouble they've made, so Carter SUCKS! Scratch 65 million crook bankers jobs

Thats a minus 85.8 million jobs for the dims
42 million jobs were created under Democratic presidents

So really it's a negative 42.8 million jobs for the Dims.

In fact, the Obama jobs numbers would be pretty terrific under this "LIB" methodology, DUH of course they were arranged to look that way on purpose!

Obama is now in positive territory to the tune of 40,000

thats 40,000 jobs @ $5 Trillion

thats $125,000,000,000,000 per job and most are low wage jobs

(CNN) -- Anyone watching the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday night heard the number 4.5 million several times.

"Despite incredible odds and united Republican opposition, our president took action, and now we've seen 4.5 million new jobs," San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, the party's keynote speaker, said.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who served as President Barack Obama's chief of staff, and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, who followed Obama's November rival Mitt Romney as governor of Massachusetts, both cited the same number.

It's a big-sounding number, given the still-sputtering job market. So we're giving it a close eyeballing.

The facts:

The number Castro cites is an accurate description of the growth of private-sector jobs since January 2010, when the long, steep slide in employment finally hit bottom. But while a total of 4.5 million jobs sounds great, it's not the whole picture.
Watch full speech of Julian Castro
Photos: Best of the DNC Photos: Best of the DNC

Nonfarm private payrolls hit a post-recession low of 106.8 million that month, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The figure currently stands at 111.3 million as of July.

While that is indeed a gain of 4.5 million, it's only a net gain of 300,000 over the course of the Obama administration to date ( 75,000 a year @ $1 Tril a year is $66,666,666,666.66 per job) ( that's horrible!). The private jobs figure stood at 111 million in January 2009, the month Obama took office.

And total nonfarm payrolls, including government workers, are down from 133.6 million workers at the beginning of 2009 to 133.2 million in July 2012. There's been a net loss of nearly 1 million public-sector jobs since Obama took office, despite a surge in temporary hiring for the 2010 census.

Meanwhile, the jobs that have come back aren't the same ones that were lost.

According to a study released last week by the liberal-leaning National Employment Law Project, low-wage fields such as retail sales and food service are adding jobs nearly three times as fast as higher-paid occupations.

Conclusion:

The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession.
Sep 5, 2012 7:03 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
IamTab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Tomasky
Michael Tomasky (born 1960) is a liberal American columnist

Clinton had the tech bubble, so the techies made the jobs not Clinton, so scratch 20.8 million jobs right there
Carter deregulated the banks, and we all see the banksters and the trouble they've made, so Carter SUCKS! Scratch 65 million crook bankers jobs

Thats a minus 85.8 million jobs for the dims
42 million jobs were created under Democratic presidents

So really it's a negative 42.8 million jobs for the Dims.

In fact, the Obama jobs numbers would be pretty terrific under this "LIB" methodology, DUH of course they were arranged to look that way on purpose!

Obama is now in positive territory to the tune of 40,000

thats 40,000 jobs @ $5 Trillion

thats $125,000,000,000,000 per job and most are low wage jobs

(CNN) -- Anyone watching the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday night heard the number 4.5 million several times.

"Despite incredible odds and united Republican opposition, our president took action, and now we've seen 4.5 million new jobs," San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, the party's keynote speaker, said.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who served as President Barack Obama's chief of staff, and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, who followed Obama's November rival Mitt Romney as governor of Massachusetts, both cited the same number.

It's a big-sounding number, given the still-sputtering job market. So we're giving it a close eyeballing.

The facts:

The number Castro cites is an accurate description of the growth of private-sector jobs since January 2010, when the long, steep slide in employment finally hit bottom. But while a total of 4.5 million jobs sounds great, it's not the whole picture.
Watch full speech of Julian Castro
Photos: Best of the DNC Photos: Best of the DNC

Nonfarm private payrolls hit a post-recession low of 106.8 million that month, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The figure currently stands at 111.3 million as of July.

While that is indeed a gain of 4.5 million, it's only a net gain of 300,000 over the course of the Obama administration to date ( 75,000 a year @ $1 Tril a year is $66,666,666,666.66 per job) ( that's horrible!). The private jobs figure stood at 111 million in January 2009, the month Obama took office.

And total nonfarm payrolls, including government workers, are down from 133.6 million workers at the beginning of 2009 to 133.2 million in July 2012. There's been a net loss of nearly 1 million public-sector jobs since Obama took office, despite a surge in temporary hiring for the 2010 census.

Meanwhile, the jobs that have come back aren't the same ones that were lost.

According to a study released last week by the liberal-leaning National Employment Law Project, low-wage fields such as retail sales and food service are adding jobs nearly three times as fast as higher-paid occupations.

Conclusion:

The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession.


Excuses Excuses yawn
Sep 5, 2012 7:07 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
I knew you would hate getting called out for posting complete BS

Hot_Single_Dude: Excuses Excuses
Sep 5, 2012 7:38 PM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
IamTab: I knew you would hate getting called out for posting complete BS
Ditto thumbs up grin
Sep 6, 2012 8:08 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
The best single line from the DNC last night.....

"I don't belong to a organized political party. I am a Democrat."

The is a old joke from Will Rogers, repeated from a FOX newscaster.

---

What did the honorable DEM party fail to replace in the DEM platform?

1) a section on Hamas being a terrorist group. And that funding should not go to it. Seem Washington has 1b headed to Hamas.

2) a section on the 'right to return' for Palestine to Israel from
Jordan and Syria.

Allowing DEM leader to send Hamas a billion and gave the Palestines a approval to return to Israel. The rumor of Washington is that the check is in the mail to Hamas. President Obama put a stamp on it before he left for Charlotte.

What was that President Obama said? "We have Israel's back." Sure they do, with 1b in terrorist funding going to Hamas and permission for Arafat's Palestine to take choice properties in Israel.

---

Debbie Schulz Wassermann became the biggest dodger at the convention.
Earlier, according to Debbie, a conservative newspaper had misquoted her. The paper had her saying the REP party was "dangerous" to Israel. That she had heard none less than the Israeli Ambassador Oren say this.

Ummmmm....within a few hours Ambassador Oren publicially says he never made the statement.

Ummmm.....then Debbie says she never made the statement

Ummmm.....then the newspaper plays a recorded version of her saying the statement.

Ummmm.....then Debbie says she was taken out contest

So it is DNC Dodge ballgame again. Only Debbie does not have a ball to throw or to block with. Debbie does not have much on top either. She had to see the reporter with the big tape recorder.





Ok I FINALLY got to;

Bill Clinton and his nomination of the enlightened halo'd one, the future grand master of Afghanistan and all lands between, leader of all Americans born, to be born, or were born, Include millions south of the border that have yet to make the trip. The man who for the last four year led the country to being the economic powerhouse that it is today.

I went to bed before Bill did his thing. So after watching a net replay. A couple of things come to mind.

Trying to paint the REP party as being controlled by the 'radical right' works? When the Party nominated a mid road Romney? Sorry Old Bill got this wrong. Romney won by a clear majority of the REP in the country. Romney is closer to the IND mid road voter than the most liberal President every elected is.

Cooperation. Old Bill makes big plea for cooperation. Across the aisle cooperation. When you are the party in power, you want cooperation. You want the other side to cooperate with any far left idea placed out there.

You don't want your AVA being opposed. Or called a Tax. You don't want your stimulus TARP II being opposed or being called a failure. Bill digs up some number from were....that says had a employment 'rating' of 66. And former REP president had a 'rating' of 42. Ever see someone spend a 'rating'? Either you have a job or you don't.

Bill does not want to site the real numbers here. He has to go mysterious 'ratings'.

I am for cooperation between the parties on things that benefit the American people and the country. But sending Hamas a 1b does not do that. Nor does staying in Afghanistan 1 more day, do that.

Bill tells us we should support President Obama because he is still committed to 'constructive cooperation'. Then site his record.
He appointed 3 REP DoD jobs. He selected a VP that ran against him in 2008. And he trust Joe Biden to oversee the Iraq withdraw and the implementation of the ACA.



end of part 1
Sep 6, 2012 8:20 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
The football game was more interesting than the convention. At
least the players work for a livin. drinking
Sep 6, 2012 8:26 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
He sounded, as one writed noted, like a very slick lawyer defending his guilty client. It all rang very hollow - and you couldn't help but notice the striking contrast between Clinton's presidency and Obama's.

Clinton must have hated having to go to bat for Obama. I'm sure he only did it for the Democratic party
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