Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans? (823)

Sep 6, 2012 8:30 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
agman: The football game was more interesting than the convention. At
least the players work for a livin.


Morning O-man. wave
Sep 6, 2012 8:40 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
WhatUwish4: Morning O-man.

Morning K-woman. wave
Time to have my cup of coffee before off to work. drinking
Sep 6, 2012 8:46 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
agman: Morning K-woman.
Time to have my cup of coffee before off to work.


Heck O-man. I've already fed the girls and shooed them off to school, then fed, groomed, ridden and washed the horses. I'm just sitting down waiting for my second wind.

Whattcha been doing all morning!
laugh laugh

Have a great day, Veggie Man.
wave
Sep 6, 2012 8:46 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Sep 6, 2012 8:49 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Holy crap! "Man with Explosived Reportedly on Plane."



God I hope this turns out to be wrong.
sad flower
Sep 6, 2012 8:55 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
WhatUwish4: Heck O-man. I've already fed the girls and shooed them off to school, then fed, groomed, ridden and washed the horses. I'm just sitting down waiting for my second wind.

Whattcha been doing all morning!


Have a great day, Veggie Man.


Your day starts sooner than mine. I just woke up.
But it is time to get back to the grind.
You have a great day. wine
Sep 6, 2012 8:57 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
agman: Your day starts sooner than mine. I just woke up.
But it is time to get back to the grind.
You have a great day.


I know. Just having fun with you. You know your morning would be dull without somebody picking on you! laugh

wave
Sep 6, 2012 9:05 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
WhatUwish4: Holy crap! "Man with Explosived Reportedly on Plane."



God I hope this turns out to be wrong.


They are saying it's Philadelphia and the FBI are on the scene, but no other information.

Has anyone else found a link with more info?
dunno
Sep 6, 2012 9:40 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
WhatUwish4: Holy crap! "Man with Explosived Reportedly on Plane."



God I hope this turns out to be wrong.


Morning Wishy Washy laugh I hope it's wrong too but a picture is worth a 1,000 words. They are very much alike and it is scary but there are differences.

So one would think, if they are so much alike, then it's no big deal which one wins the election. dunno

The video was very good but it was missing one thing......a timeline to see who copied whom. Romney looks to be younger then he is now so I would say the Prezzy copied what Rum Runner said.

In the video Obama said he is all for eliminating foreign oil and doing our own offshore drilling but I tinkky he just changed his mind on dat.

As for Tim Geithner thumbs down

He's another one who tried to skim paying his taxes. It went something like this....."I used a computer program and missed the mistake".. DUH....Wasn't he Secretary of the Treasury?? I could be wrong about his position. I think a man who is surrounded with numbers all day on a huge level wouldn't miss a "little" mistake on his own taxes.

Yet both Rum Runner and Obamarama both said Geithner is "sharp and skilled". There ya go. Know we know what the country needs. Sharp and skilled tax criminals. cool

It goes without saying that Doodie hug is going to remind me that Romney has tax shelters in the Caymans. And I will remind Doodster that he was a private citizen when he did that whereas Geithner was a member of Obummy's cabinet/government.

Doesn't make it right that Romney hid his money but it does put a black mark on Obummy's choice of who was in his cabinet. And if I remember correctly....70 years worth of remembering is confusing...it took forever for Obee to choose his cabinet.

The President made bad choices from the very beginning when he selected those who would represent him in his Cabinet and he is still making bad decisions for the country.

Has anyone every tallied how many have left his cabinet?

I've never seen such a turnover....I'm not talking about apple turnovers.....I'm talking about people in the President's cabinet who once they got there, realized they made a mistake when they joined Obama's crusade. Or it could be that they wouldn't go along with his shenanigans so he fired them.

I'm in mourning after seeing that video...sad flower sad flower

You may now go back to the regularly scheduled program wave
Sep 6, 2012 9:53 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
What started off as a constructive cooperation.....between the two parties led by the President.....turns into a pat on Joe Biden's back.

In Bill memory....lays the memories of the Chamber being kept from the WH Economic Summit. The forced implimentation of ACA. And the WH slammming the door to Majority Leader Boenher one time. Maybe Bill's memory needs defragging.

Bill does the next 3 min on Hillary Clinton and the done 'with the security team' to keep America safe!. I thought the job of the President was lead the security team of the United States. But Hillary has her own 2500 man army in Iraq.

According Bill....President Obama laid a foundation in economy that WILL 'produce millions of new jobs', 'WILL provide growth', 'WILL make a strong economy'....but Bill like Dude.....never tells us when.

Bill asks the question....ARE we better off today, than when President Obama took office? Then he site that we are not losing 750,000 jobs month. My question at this point. Is it the stimulus or private sector that stopped the economic free fall?

I think that there is a pretty good case for the private sector stopping the economic free fall. And not the economic stimulation of 928 selected firms with 800b. Bill says he has laid the foundation for a 'new shared prosperity'.

I think 'shared' here is a key. Meaning that the Private sector that is recovering, is going to wealth share with the other sectors that are non producing. E.G. the way you wealth share is to tax and give gov't benefit. Cute wording Bill. Thanks for telling us.

Bill is talking a lot of sharing. Shared responsibility. Shared ownership. Shared commitments. But no where does Bill offer to share the government with the REP. The REP should just 'constructively cooperate'. But Bill if you need the REP so much to run the government, then let us.

Bill dances around the REP claim that Obama took 716b from medicare. Bill says....Obama got the money for ACA from taking the advise of a health committee that closes the doughnut hole between drug and insurance. Bill really? 1.6t from a committee recommendation? Bill says that there were no cuts to benefits at all! In this he is right. The ACA does come about till 2014. Then you will have 716b taken from medicare to go ACA.

REP get it. It is a future redistribution of the medicare benefits.
But still medicare is cut 716b in 2014.

Bill and the DEM are the party of 'fact checkers'! Instead of using their heads to reason, they need a man at a computer to determine the truth! DEM have always been big on fact checking. It is like having bobblehead doing your thinking. rolling on the floor laughing

Bill does talk about the debt for 5 seconds. And went straight to the interest rates that are low, so you too can borrow your way to wealth!! Bill says the debt will gobble up more of the FEDERAL Budget and take from benefits. Here is Bill is right. The debt already takes 38 cents of every Federal dollar. But does Bill give us a plan to get out the debt problem? President Obama's 'balanced approach' is the solution.

What is the "balanced approach"?

1) a 4t debt reduction over 10 years...6 year of non Obama government.
2) a 1 for 2 revenue increase to debt reduction till 2024
3) tight spending controls

Hmmmmmmmmmmm in rebuttal to Bill

1)we are at 16t today. That only bring us to 12t debt, only 2t more than when Obama took office!
2) a revenue increase is secret DEM wording for taxes.
3)tight spending controls like were on the GSA for the last 4 years?

Bill says nothing about the REP 4% GNP growth solution.

Bill says that Romney's not taxing the wealthy is a 5t in taxes. As I mentioned in the past.... wealthy have only 1.4t in net worth.
Were do you get 5t in taxes from that?

But according to Bill....DEM math can do it.

I am sure it can Bill. Right with share the wealth distribution math that goes along side of it.

But Bill is not a loose cannon. It was a solid endorsement of President Obama.
Sep 6, 2012 10:00 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
A hacker is claiming to have Romney's tax returns.

US Secret Service is investigating.

Now....ummm......did he hack the IRS? Bain? Romney's personal files?

Some Bain staffers are to speak at the DNC tonight. If the IRS was hacked then Obama or his campaign could be directly involved.





K the FOX page on the man with explosives on a plane has been pulled.

I don't find it elsewere on the net.

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Sep 6, 2012 10:04 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
A fact check on Obama being a compromiser. Dang maybe the REP have a bobblehead too!

Sep 6, 2012 10:07 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
DEM don't see a poll bounce coming from the DNC. I think the momentum has changed. Romney and Ryan did not get a great bounce with the RNC.
Said to be from 3 to 5%. But they are on upward track.

Sep 6, 2012 10:07 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Morning Monte, wave

As for Tim Geithner

He's another one who tried to skim paying his taxes. It went something like this....."I used a computer program and missed the mistake".. DUH....Wasn't he Secretary of the Treasury?? I could be wrong about his position. I think a man who is surrounded with numbers all day on a huge level wouldn't miss a "little" mistake on his own taxes.


Two years in a row, no less laugh doh

It goes without saying that Doodie is going to remind me that Romney has tax shelters in the Caymans. And I will remind Doodster that he was a private citizen when he did that whereas Geithner was a member of Obummy's cabinet/government.

Doesn't make it right that Romney hid his money but it does put a black mark on Obummy's choice of who was in his cabinet. And if I remember correctly....70 years worth of remembering is confusing...it took forever for Obee to choose his cabinet.


The good news is that Romney never hid it. The accounts were declared on his Income Tax which is the perfectly legal way to do it. You declare the money, pay taxes on the interest earned, and you can also claim the taxes paid to the other country.

If it's reported, it isn't "hidden." thumbs up
Sep 6, 2012 10:08 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: DEM don't see a poll bounce coming from the DNC. I think the momentum has changed. Romney and Ryan did not get a great bounce with the RNC.
Said to be from 3 to 5%. But they are on upward track.



They are likely to see a dip in their numbers after last night's fiasco.
Sep 6, 2012 10:09 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: A hacker is claiming to have Romney's tax returns.

US Secret Service is investigating.

Now....ummm......did he hack the IRS? Bain? Romney's personal files?

Some Bain staffers are to speak at the DNC tonight. If the IRS was hacked then Obama or his campaign could be directly involved.





K the FOX page on the man with explosives on a plane has been pulled.

I don't find it elsewere on the net.


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I know. Weird! Do you have any idea why they would have pulled it? When I first signed in they were streaming live video at the airport... dunno
Sep 6, 2012 10:19 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
WhatUwish4: I know. Weird! Do you have any idea why they would have pulled it? When I first signed in they were streaming live video at the airport...



I found it. It was a Philly flight for Dallas. USAIR. returned to Philly.
On the ground at Philly now and deporting. Authorities took a male passenger away, something about liquid explosives that is unclear presently

Sep 6, 2012 10:20 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Sep 6, 2012 10:32 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Thanks Tom and Monte. wave

I checked both links and it appears they were two separate incidents (scary). One talks about a threat today with a person being taken into custody, the other talks about one on Saturday when somebody called in a bomb threat but the flight they noted wasn't on the roster.

Very strange...detective
Sep 6, 2012 10:46 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4: Morning Monte,

As for Tim Geithner

He's another one who tried to skim paying his taxes. It went something like this....."I used a computer program and missed the mistake".. DUH....Wasn't he Secretary of the Treasury?? I could be wrong about his position. I think a man who is surrounded with numbers all day on a huge level wouldn't miss a "little" mistake on his own taxes. Two years in a row, no less

It goes without saying that Doodie is going to remind me that Romney has tax shelters in the Caymans. And I will remind Doodster that he was a private citizen when he did that whereas Geithner was a member of Obummy's cabinet/government.

Doesn't make it right that Romney hid his money but it does put a black mark on Obummy's choice of who was in his cabinet. And if I remember correctly....70 years worth of remembering is confusing...it took forever for Obee to choose his cabinet.

The good news is that Romney never hid it. The accounts were declared on his Income Tax which is the perfectly legal way to do it. You declare the money, pay taxes on the interest earned, and you can also claim the taxes paid to the other country.

If it's reported, it isn't "hidden."
well,according to Dude it is a Crime for a Republican to have a Bankaccount in any other Country than the US!laugh
Sep 6, 2012 10:49 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Ladies and Gentlemen

Since this current oponent of president Obama is really great making a fool out of him self, better brining in some of the man,s Stupid quotes for begining this thread:

1. "Corporations are people, my friend… of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings, my friend." —Mitt Romney to a heckler at the Iowa State Fair who suggested that taxes should be raised on corporations as part of balancing the budget (August 2011)

2. "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me." –Mitt Romney, using an unfortunate choice of words while advocating for consumer choice in health insurance plans (January 2012)

3. "I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there." —Mitt Romney (January 2012)

4. "He says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It's time for us to cut back on government and help the American people." —Mitt Romney at a campaign event in Council Bluffs, Iowa, June 8, 2012

5. "I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back." –Mitt Romney, –Mitt Romney, on the American auto industry, despite having written a New York Times op-ed in 2008 titled "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt," in which he said if GM, Ford and Chrysler got a government bailout "you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye"

6. "It's hard to know just how well [the 2012 London Olympics] will turn out. There are a few things that were disconcerting. The stories about the private security firm not having enough people, the supposed strike of the immigration and customs officials, that obviously is not something which is encouraging." –Mitt Romney, insulting Britain on the eve of the Olympics by suggesting the country is not ready, NBC News interview, July 25, 2012

7. "No one's ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know that this is the place that we were born and raised." —Mitt Romney, speaking about his Michigan roots during a rally in Commerce, Michigan, Aug. 24, 2012

8. "I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." —Mitt Romney, speaking in 2011 to unemployed people in Florida. Romney's net worth is over $200 million.

9. "[My wife] drives a couple of Cadillacs." –Mitt Romney, campaigning for president in Michigan (February 2012)

10. "I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love." –Mitt Romney (January 2012)

is the campain going so far?

Well... still a lot misunderstandings going on, and still a lot too many are supporting the dang gang of Romney and Ryan since a lot of money is involved, and beside it have not been possible taking care of the Swiss situation even after nearly four years, and GOP really got a lot of money to play with, and too many folks out there making the final decision just by watching half a minute tv ad... then sure... shi* can still happen, and Dems better really making sure any single skeletons of Romney and Ryan becoming aviable for the nation, and Specially making sure tax Facts of Romney empire are ready to view for America as soon as possible!

I am looking forward to do what I can, keep supporting president Obama and wishing him victory for the sake of America and for the sake of the entire planet Earth.

Bain Romney Out America!


Well then I'm screwed because the first thing I did after Obama was elected was scrape up every spare penny I had and moved it to another country. I KNEW our dollar would get flushed down the drain so it was worth it to me to play it safe, even if it was a struggle to put it all together.
Sep 6, 2012 10:50 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
According to Dude, that makes me a criminal.
uh oh laugh uh oh
Sep 6, 2012 10:52 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Oops. Meant to say...and that's not counting last night when Obama pissed off hald his party.
Sep 6, 2012 10:55 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: He sounded, as one writed noted, like a very slick lawyer defending his guilty client. It all rang very hollow - and you couldn't help but notice the striking contrast between Clinton's presidency and Obama's.

Clinton must have hated having to go to bat for Obama. I'm sure he only did it for the Democratic party


Oh yeah you are so right Wish 4... comfort ... wow ... tongue head banger
Sep 6, 2012 10:59 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: They are saying it's Philadelphia and the FBI are on the scene, but no other information.

Has anyone else found a link with more info?



Have they arrested Limbaugh and Boehner and Shi* still? popcorn
Sep 6, 2012 11:05 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: A hacker is claiming to have Romney's tax returns.

US Secret Service is investigating.

Now....ummm......did he hack the IRS? Bain? Romney's personal files?

Some Bain staffers are to speak at the DNC tonight. If the IRS was hacked then Obama or his campaign could be directly involved.





K the FOX page on the man with explosives on a plane has been pulled.

I don't find it elsewere on the net.

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Wow! an all time American Hero??????????yay

But ok... no need for Hack and stuff... the dang bribed loser Romney and his really stupid pal Ryan are over and out and can never win unless massiely GOP Scott kind of Brewer BS and stuff ... but since year 2000 elections were cheated upon America and the rest of the world... Dems have learned avoiding a repeatation and the bunch od losers and cheaters of GOP will not be able of shuving their pal on job this time I am sure.
Sep 6, 2012 11:17 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: well,according to Dude it is a Crime for a Republican to have a Bankaccount in any other Country than the US!


Specially in Switzerland Conrad... the Crook state number one of the world even looking this calm and civilised on the surface... Whole lot of Crap and shi* and terror and Stupid radicals possible taking over in US and else where is going on in the entire world with the laundry washed money passing the Swiss banks... Romney is not a the one and only crook stealing America,s money and hiding it in Swiss banks... the list of those kinds plus dictators and monsters of the world who all hiding stolen money of nations in Swiss banks... is long and bloody! But! No worry Conrad... WE are going to take care of the Swiss problem in the middle of Mr. Obama the Brave,s second Turm ! devil
Sep 6, 2012 11:19 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: According to Dude, that makes me a criminal.
Are you a dang tax cheater too Wish4?wow
Sep 6, 2012 11:22 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: Guess what Dude... Romney is leading in Florida already and not Obama went and pissed off half of his own party.
Fine with me... Florida for THAT Romney... Who cares? If Florida Stupidley giving the majority of it,s votes for a damn corporate raider as Romney then not may fault dunno
Sep 6, 2012 11:30 AM CST Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Conrad73: MALARKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dang it Conrad....There goes my other eardrum.....doh grin
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