Should spelling matter for a job? (60)
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spellchecker approved ... guess I can use it in my next CV
pedalguy59:
galrads: I wood say snot.
Mine is disabled due to the fact it corrects me(sic) to the American spelling, which is wrong as we now it.pedalguy59: Forgot the K on know.
jac_the_gripper: I worship the Godess Spellcheck.
Something went silly with my firefox earlier and I need to reinstall her divine powers.
Something went silly with my firefox earlier and I need to reinstall her divine powers.
Even the Goddess
make mistakes but one thing is to have one mistake here and there than to write recurrently with many mistakes over and over and not even notice them or try to correct them.Catibrae: yes spelling should matter in all jobs, it a good communication skill
In jobs that require writing, this should be done correctly.
2intrigued: Considering the example you gave, I'd have to say good spelling would be very important. Proposals, or any other binding documents that contain errors could have serious repercussions to the business submitting these documents to a client.
sleepingtiger: In business as in love profiles, I consider as many cues as I can. Spelling speaks about education, and/or attention to detail. if someone doesn't take the time to make sure it is correct, you can be sure that is the level of quality they aspire to.
I once heard that
people are hired for their cognitive intelligence
and fired for their emotional intelligence .spelling at most speaks about academic development, not more ( you didn't ask about grammar or narrative)
I once heard that
people are hired for their cognitive intelligence
and fired for their emotional intelligence .spelling at most speaks about academic development, not more ( you didn't ask about grammar or narrative)
Among a couple hundreds people’s curricula there were many with bad spelling and the majority of them had not done the defending of their thesis even after many years which show their lack of ambition to accomplish their goals in life.
People that have finished school but not having their degree (the title, the paper) get less pay than the ones who have it. In research they might not even be hired at all.
Draegoneer:
Over all; spelling is an important factor for contracts, presentations, and even records.
It's true that most paper work is done with electronic devices and the errors can be kept minimal. That is not the case one hundred percent of the time by a long shot.
Above average spelling abilities should be a minimal requirement where a job requires writing skills.
My opinion. Now I'll be self conscious about writing things down at work for the next week or two.
Kaybee50: On a job application/resume, it is difficult to overlook errors.
If the position doesn't require much written skill, then it wouldn't matter once they are active in their position.
We only have one chance to make a first impression.
With a future employer, it better be nothing less than 100%.
Speling erors will occur. There is no doubt there.If the position doesn't require much written skill, then it wouldn't matter once they are active in their position.
We only have one chance to make a first impression.
With a future employer, it better be nothing less than 100%.
Over all; spelling is an important factor for contracts, presentations, and even records.
It's true that most paper work is done with electronic devices and the errors can be kept minimal. That is not the case one hundred percent of the time by a long shot.
Above average spelling abilities should be a minimal requirement where a job requires writing skills.
My opinion. Now I'll be self conscious about writing things down at work for the next week or two.
These persons’ work will be writing proposals and those proposals will be submitted to high qualified people at the state level and to the federal level for their review/approval and many of them are “Holy Cows” and they might find a proposal with bad spelling not even worth to read it and because of that, their proposal might be rejected and their client will be affected negatively.
SandraYelitzza2: Everything that involves professionalism. Applications, resumes, cover letter, and even emails. My grammar here is very informal, but when I speak to employers via email, I sound very professional.
Why?? U want to give them the best impression, so the answer to that is a YES
Why?? U want to give them the best impression, so the answer to that is a YES
Writing here in CS is in a more relaxed way and some errors in spelling, grammar, punctuation, style, etc.. do happen yet I do believe that writing says lots about the persons and not only about the academic achievement as Tiger says.
BerrySmoothie: I think allowances would be made for anyone who has dyslexia and an employer would appreciate the honesty of mentioning it in their resume.
The others....it is sheer laziness or carelessness. We're talking about a resume. The point is to impress the employer, that one has taken the time to make the best effort in producing an error-free CV.
In other words, the candidate cares enough to want that job....to at least make it to an interview.
The others....it is sheer laziness or carelessness. We're talking about a resume. The point is to impress the employer, that one has taken the time to make the best effort in producing an error-free CV.
In other words, the candidate cares enough to want that job....to at least make it to an interview.
Sadly in my experience, this is not true, many people who have attained the dizzy heights of working in HR, have come straight from University or college, they lack the skills to recognise that dyslexia is something that can be easily and simply overcome within a normal workplace, because they don't understand the condition, they often make a rash decision to bin any application thats says dyslexia.
Although this is 2015, the misinformation regarding dyslexia is still rife, and those who have this condition will continue to be looked down upon until the Education departments of the world stand up and show that it is not an insurmountable problem and that it can in fact make for a better employee.
Poll: Should spelling matter for a job?
Can you see what you could have accomplished by having a better spelling?
Way more!!!
What I find dubious is people making/managing/having multimillion dollar assets and being here in CS, the first thing that comes to mine is
(Also scammers have terrible spelling, bad grammar, bad punctuation and not style at all)
noeleena: Hi,
So I should not have worked for 46 years in the building trades take charge of others who worked for me had responsabilitys in charge of health and safety and used machinery that many people know nothing about and could not repair run large Kitchens and with people working for me feeding 100.s of people and even now in charge of running a large multy millon $ complex .
Had I been running a multimillion business I would not have time to be here.
yes I have major dyslexca and a mind that works things out differently from most and a photographic memory just not your normal way of seeing and doing things I was useless at school could not spell do arithmetic or read till age 13 as for compostion grammer or what ever I need to write on paper or stand in front of large groups and read from a book or written paper im useless ,
yet I can write in my mind 2, 2000 word esays and talk in front of 1000,s of people and rewrite my 2 esays in 10 min,s and make a 3 rd one and talk to the people as well ,
So you may be right I should not have a job unless I can do as you have said ,
My question was: Should spelling matter for a job? the answers are various.
Have you been interviewed for TV and in front of 3 Millon people and talked ,
spos not when you can stand in front of 100,s and talk to them with nothing written down in front of you and talk for an hour than again maybe I should not ether be able to do it or I should never have been asked ,
Can you design and draw plans for large buildings and do spec,s and then build ,
So my spelling maybe rubbish I know it is yet I,v got 0ver 46 years of doing yes theres a lot of words I cant spell and the spell checker does not understand my spelling so you see I have enough issues with out trying to be a speller when I cant any way if I need a word ill ask . oh well never mind .
Englisch ist Muell und meine Sprach ich lerne und besser .
English IS garbage???
...noeleena...
So I should not have worked for 46 years in the building trades take charge of others who worked for me had responsabilitys in charge of health and safety and used machinery that many people know nothing about and could not repair run large Kitchens and with people working for me feeding 100.s of people and even now in charge of running a large multy millon $ complex .
Had I been running a multimillion business I would not have time to be here.
yes I have major dyslexca and a mind that works things out differently from most and a photographic memory just not your normal way of seeing and doing things I was useless at school could not spell do arithmetic or read till age 13 as for compostion grammer or what ever I need to write on paper or stand in front of large groups and read from a book or written paper im useless ,
yet I can write in my mind 2, 2000 word esays and talk in front of 1000,s of people and rewrite my 2 esays in 10 min,s and make a 3 rd one and talk to the people as well ,
So you may be right I should not have a job unless I can do as you have said ,
My question was: Should spelling matter for a job? the answers are various.
Have you been interviewed for TV and in front of 3 Millon people and talked ,
spos not when you can stand in front of 100,s and talk to them with nothing written down in front of you and talk for an hour than again maybe I should not ether be able to do it or I should never have been asked ,
Can you design and draw plans for large buildings and do spec,s and then build ,
So my spelling maybe rubbish I know it is yet I,v got 0ver 46 years of doing yes theres a lot of words I cant spell and the spell checker does not understand my spelling so you see I have enough issues with out trying to be a speller when I cant any way if I need a word ill ask . oh well never mind .
Englisch ist Muell und meine Sprach ich lerne und besser .
English IS garbage???
...noeleena...
Can you see what you could have accomplished by having a better spelling?
Way more!!!
What I find dubious is people making/managing/having multimillion dollar assets and being here in CS, the first thing that comes to mine is
(Also scammers have terrible spelling, bad grammar, bad punctuation and not style at all)
lifeisadream: People´s applications for a job with bad spelling in their résumé (curriculum vitae) that have attended school (University, College, Technological Institute....):
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
if I wont a job at the counsil pickin up littler then I don't see why I need to spell write there job application said equol opportunity.Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
Honestly, it depends on the job.
KNOT! Appa friggen loosa. YES, Spelling would be a requirement. Any one working for me, represents me. One of my pet peevs. Spelling. !!! I find I used to be an excellent speller. Now as A few decades have passed. I find I have to re think how to spell a word. I can change a diaper excellently though. !!!
I am responding to picking up litter. I do believe a foot in the door position, here where I reside, room for advancement. many employees start out as grounds keepers, custodians, end up a Zillionaire and owning the company plus advance up and to more joyful experiences.
almera03: if I wont a job at the counsil pickin up littler then I don't see why I need to spell write there job application said equol opportunity.
Honestly, it depends on the job.
eye was a skool teacher....hand i wood ...say two my pupils....hiff ewe wont two get on....ewe must right...hand spel wright.....two suckseed......eye was quiet strikt.....most went two universorty......hand became lectourres......Honestly, it depends on the job.
hay good edukation his hay muste.
rizlared: Sadly in my experience, this is not true, many people who have attained the dizzy heights of working in HR, have come straight from University or college, they lack the skills to recognise that dyslexia is something that can be easily and simply overcome within a normal workplace, because they don't understand the condition, they often make a rash decision to bin any application thats says dyslexia.
Although this is 2015, the misinformation regarding dyslexia is still rife, and those who have this condition will continue to be looked down upon until the Education departments of the world stand up and show that it is not an insurmountable problem and that it can in fact make for a better employee.
Although this is 2015, the misinformation regarding dyslexia is still rife, and those who have this condition will continue to be looked down upon until the Education departments of the world stand up and show that it is not an insurmountable problem and that it can in fact make for a better employee.
Sadly, I've noticed some recently graduated university/college students lack many skills due to little life experience.
heatherhuntsman: I am responding to picking up litter. I do believe a foot in the door position, here where I reside, room for advancement. many employees start out as grounds keepers, custodians, end up a Zillionaire and owning the company plus advance up and to more joyful experiences.
well, yes... depends on the job tasks, but it also goes for credibility
a surgeon would probably require very little writing (for public consumption... meaning outside of work reports, employee grades, etc)
so would a crane operator. both are very specialized jobs that require lots of training.
but, would you put your health in the hands of a surgeon with bad spelling?
I think spelling is acquired thru (I'm lazy here) reading (and having writing corrected). call me old-fashioned, but I still believe reading is part of a good education...
RainComeShine: Won can always yous the spelcheque!
heatherhuntsman: KNOT! Appa friggen loosa. YES, Spelling would be a requirement. Any one working for me, represents me. One of my pet peevs. Spelling. !!! I find I used to be an excellent speller. Now as A few decades have passed. I find I have to re think how to spell a word. I can change a diaper excellently though. !!!
Changing diapers!
When my children were on diapers I had them in the shower better than to touch-change the ones with
sleepingtiger: well, yes... depends on the job tasks, but it also goes for credibility
a surgeon would probably require very little writing (for public consumption... meaning outside of work reports, employee grades, etc)
so would a crane operator. both are very specialized jobs that require lots of training.
but, would you put your health in the hands of a surgeon with bad spelling?
I think spelling is acquired thru (I'm lazy here) reading (and having writing corrected). call me old-fashioned, but I still believe reading is part of a good education...
a surgeon would probably require very little writing (for public consumption... meaning outside of work reports, employee grades, etc)
so would a crane operator. both are very specialized jobs that require lots of training.
but, would you put your health in the hands of a surgeon with bad spelling?
I think spelling is acquired thru (I'm lazy here) reading (and having writing corrected). call me old-fashioned, but I still believe reading is part of a good education...
That could make a whole new thread
Interesting to look at though.
lifeisadream: That could make a whole new thread
Interesting to look at though.
Interesting to look at though.
I think you've been in the forums faaaaaar too long
Yes, I think it should matter despite the kind of job you are applying for. It's important what example you give to younger people, your children, grandchildren...
I've heard a lot of complaints that kids don't write normally nowadays, they chew and cut the words, use abbreviations...but I see too many adults do it too and it gives even worse impression...
Well, at least in your own language you shouldn't have an excuse to mess up with the spelling, unless you have dyslexia...
...or too much wine...
I've heard a lot of complaints that kids don't write normally nowadays, they chew and cut the words, use abbreviations...but I see too many adults do it too and it gives even worse impression...
Well, at least in your own language you shouldn't have an excuse to mess up with the spelling, unless you have dyslexia...
...or too much wine...lifeisadream: People´s applications for a job with bad spelling in their résumé (curriculum vitae) that have attended school (University, College, Technological Institute....):
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
Yes
lifeisadream: Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
as it is often said (mainly demagogically)
yes, equality of opportunities, not equality of results
sleepingtiger:
sleepingtiger: as it is often said (mainly demagogically)
yes, equality of opportunities, not equality of results
I think you've been in the forums faaaaaar too longyes, equality of opportunities, not equality of results
Really?
Perhaps, I have.
If you get to be as long as I have, please think of me as a re-minder.
KremaP: Yes, I think it should matter despite the kind of job you are applying for. It's important what example you give to younger people, your children, grandchildren...
I've heard a lot of complaints that kids don't write normally nowadays, they chew and cut the words, use abbreviations...but I see too many adults do it too and it gives even worse impression...
Well, at least in your own language you shouldn't have an excuse to mess up with the spelling, unless you have dyslexia... ...or too much wine...
I've heard a lot of complaints that kids don't write normally nowadays, they chew and cut the words, use abbreviations...but I see too many adults do it too and it gives even worse impression...
Well, at least in your own language you shouldn't have an excuse to mess up with the spelling, unless you have dyslexia... ...or too much wine...
At work there must not be excuses for writing properly or at least to make an effort to.
Da_Moose: Yes
I wonder how many of the ones that say that spelling should not matter at work, do spell properly, just saying
If someone can't be bothered to put some effort into their CV (if its an important document I would let someone who's mother tongue is English proof read it) I wouldn't fault an employer for not hiring. For most jobs there are plenty applicants.
lifeisadream: People´s applications for a job with bad spelling in their résumé (curriculum vitae) that have attended school (University, College, Technological Institute....):
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
hiya lifeisadreamYes, spelling counts on an application for a job if you require those skills for the job. It shows an understanding of the language as well as the ability to catch details.
If the job doesn't require written skills, then hire the person with the job experience skills that best fit the job.
jmo
lifeisadream:
If you get to be as long as I have, please think of me as a re-minder.
If you get to be as long as I have, please think of me as a re-minder.
I feel I am already being groomed and lured in
Rather a bad speller than a teller of stories, truth of oneself is an honer to others.
lifeisadream: People´s applications for a job with bad spelling in their résumé (curriculum vitae) that have attended school (University, College, Technological Institute....):
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
I've hired people in the past and any resume that contains spelling errors goes straight into the garbage. No exception. Why? Because the person didn't take the time and put in the effort to make sure it contains no errors. Clearly the applicant doesn't take the job and the process to get it seriously. I rather choose the person who puts in the effort.
As to being a University graduate and having spelling errors. That's totally unacceptable.
lifeisadream: People´s applications for a job with bad spelling in their résumé (curriculum vitae) that have attended school (University, College, Technological Institute....):
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
Should they have the same job opportunities that the ones with good spelling?
Although an important part of their job will be to write
development-investment proposals.Thanks in advance!
All depends on what the job is.
KNenagh: If someone can't be bothered to put some effort into their CV (if its an important document I would let someone who's mother tongue is English proof read it) I wouldn't fault an employer for not hiring. For most jobs there are plenty applicants.
Nidifugous: I've hired people in the past and any resume that contains spelling errors goes straight into the garbage. No exception. Why? Because the person didn't take the time and put in the effort to make sure it contains no errors. Clearly the applicant doesn't take the job and the process to get it seriously. I rather choose the person who puts in the effort.
As to being a University graduate and having spelling errors. That's totally unacceptable.
As to being a University graduate and having spelling errors. That's totally unacceptable.
jono7: hiya lifeisadream
Yes, spelling counts on an application for a job if you require those skills for the job. It shows an understanding of the language as well as the ability to catch details.
If the job doesn't require written skills, then hire the person with the job experience skills that best fit the job.jmo
Yes, spelling counts on an application for a job if you require those skills for the job. It shows an understanding of the language as well as the ability to catch details.
If the job doesn't require written skills, then hire the person with the job experience skills that best fit the job.jmo
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Rather a bad speller than a teller of stories, truth of oneself is an honer to others .
.Hi ladies
All these people have finished school (University, college,...)and in this case, writing is required for the job. I was invited by a gov Institution to participate in the evaluation of their curricula, among other 4 persons (all of them younger with an impeccable curriculum, very talented and 3 of them women as well). To my surprise they -the younger- were upset at the bad spelling, myself since bad spelling was not indicated by the gov institution to be taken into account I just laughed at the bad spelling.
Were I (privately) going to hire someone to work for me as a writer of proposals, yes I would consider bad spelling a No.
Had I have to be in charge of several bad spellers hired and being paid by the gov then I will make clear from the very first meeting that spelling mistakes will not be accepted , especially with the spelling-tools we do have at hand.
sleepingtiger: I feel I am already being groomed and lured in
You can always run!
Worry not, you are too young and too animal (Tiger).
Track16: All depends on what the job is.
Writing proposals.
lifeisadream: That could make a whole new thread
Interesting to look at though.
Interesting to look at though.
Go ahead and open it when this one stalls.
lifeisadream:
All these people have finished school (University, college,...)and in this case, writing is required for the job. I was invited by a gov Institution to participate in the evaluation of their curricula, among other 4 persons (all of them younger with an impeccable curriculum, very talented and 3 of them women as well).
All these people have finished school (University, college,...)and in this case, writing is required for the job. I was invited by a gov Institution to participate in the evaluation of their curricula, among other 4 persons (all of them younger with an impeccable curriculum, very talented and 3 of them women as well).
ooh, to whom do I address my CV ?
sleepingtiger: Go ahead and open it when this one stalls....
It was your comment, so it is up to you to look at it if you wish to. However, I am going to check my family's doctor spelling next time I see him.
sleepingtiger: ...
ooh, to whom do I address my CV ?
ooh, to whom do I address my CV ?
I was hired along with other 4 persons to evaluate the people's curricula.
For job opportunities there might be some places like the Zoo where a nice Tiger must not have problem getting a job!
Have you eaten any people?
DonPepperoni: so thats y u dident replie 2 me cuz u fink imm ferkin dum? pffffffffffff!!
No twas cus u sed bad rud tings about mi ptivat partz
lifeisadream:
It was your comment, so it is up to you to look at it if you wish to. (I wont; yet it's still an offer)
For job opportunities there might be some places like the Zoo where a nice Tiger must not have problem getting a job!
if you mean about the animals around, I am getting acquainted in the forums first
Have you eaten any people?
It was your comment, so it is up to you to look at it if you wish to. (I wont; yet it's still an offer)
For job opportunities there might be some places like the Zoo where a nice Tiger must not have problem getting a job!
if you mean about the animals around, I am getting acquainted in the forums first
Have you eaten any people?
not yet, but I am improving
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