KremaP: see post #381. i did extensive research.muslim men outnumbered women 4 to 1 back then. they began marrying outside their race and this helped them to assimilate.[/quoteMuslims never assimilate Purr, they are very strict on preserving their faith, culture, way of life... Muslims in Bulgaria never marry outsiders, even if they are considered to be very modern.
there is a certain plurality here with muslims. they've come from 75 or so different countries. they've integrated.
over there you have groups that stick together and stay part of their colonies. it's a creep or residual effect from way back.
It's you right Purr...to disagree... I have a very close and long experience with Muslims from Arab peninsula, ME, Pakistan, Turkey, Bulgaria and so on... Muslims can marry someone from other religion only if they convert to Islam. There might be few exception but as a whole they are strict. They make anything to show they don't care about religious strictness but it's just to make you feel better. It is very hard, even impossible for someone to make a good judgment on Muslim's life from just living in an area where you happen to have some Muslim residents.
KremaP: It's you right Purr...to disagree... I have a very close and long experience with Muslims from Arab peninsula, ME, Pakistan, Turkey, Bulgaria and so on... Muslims can marry someone from other religion only if they convert to Islam. There might be few exception but as a whole they are strict. They make anything to show they don't care about religious strictness but it's just to make you feel better. It is very hard, even impossible for someone to make a good judgment on Muslim's life from just living in an area where you happen to have some Muslim residents.
but you haven't experience with muslims and there road to assimilation in the states.
again, it's different here and i've tried to show you how but you apparently would like to ignore that fact.
muslims have assimilated so well that you hardly now they are even here. they blend right in.
purr4mance: there is a certain plurality here with muslims. they've come from 75 or so different countries. they've integrated.
over there you have groups that stick together and stay part of their colonies. it's a creep or residual effect from way back.
Hate to disappoint you but being from a country does not mean anything - muslims still have tribal culture, it means more to be a muslim than to be of a certain nationality - why do you think they still address each other as "brothers and sisters"?
Capricorn143: Hate to disappoint you but being from a country does not mean anything - muslims still have tribal culture, it means more to be a muslim than to be of a certain nationality - why do you think they still address each other as "brothers and sisters"?
jehovah witnesses do the same.
i know christens that call each other brother and sister
when i belonged to the electricians union we called each other brother and sister.
"muslims still have tribal culture"
more so in europe and that's why it's different here.
purr4mance: but you haven't experience with muslims and there road to assimilation in the states.
again, it's different here and i've tried to show you how but you apparently would like to ignore that fact.
muslims have assimilated so well that you hardly now they are even here. they blend right in.
I marked some of the text I posted before in red, if you go back and read it you will see that, actually, the Muslim assimilated part of the non Muslims and not the vice versa. It has become the third largest faith so fast not because it was assimilated but because they are assimilating...
when the muslims are out numbered they go along with the law of that land they are in till those numbers change.then it is muslims that will go with what is tought in the koran.
KremaP: I marked some of the text I posted before in red, if you go back and read it you will see that, actually, the Muslim assimilated part of the non Muslims and not the vice versa. It has become the third largest faith so fast not because it was assimilated but because they are assimilating...
i know christens that call each other brother and sister
when i belonged to the electricians union we called each other brother and sister."muslims still have tribal culture"
more so in europe and that's why it's different here.
Sure, but none of those mentioned multiply like muslims (did you read what Erdgan said about the duty to multiply?), besides non of those are aggressive and insist even on the others to behave like them.
What I said before is true - being born into a country/nation is of no importance to them!
Capricorn143: Sure, but none of those mentioned multiply like muslims (did you read what Erdgan said about the duty to multiply?), besides non of those are aggressive and insist even on the others to behave like them.
What I said before is true - being born into a country/nation is of no importance to them!
purr4mance: i'm pretty sure i read somewhere that your country has a tight grip on immigration. so why the worry ?
Not true, I am afraid. ALmost 1 mil of those military aged men passed through on their way to greener pastures, however, some stayed, some were forced unto us by Germany, Austria....We have seen immigrants violence, even the murder of a policeman by a Paki with german passport. Maybe you have read that the numbers are low, but there are only 2 mil of us.
Capricorn143: Not true, I am afraid. ALmost 1 mil of those military aged men passed through on their way to greener pastures, however, some stayed, some were forced unto us by Germany, Austria....We have seen immigrants violence, even the murder of a policeman by a Paki with german passport. Maybe you have read that the numbers are low, but there are only 2 mil of us.
i did a little research and found slovenia has become the gateway to europe for migrants since hungary closed its border with croatia.
i'm not sure what country i was looking at that had a good handle on the immigrants coming from syria. they were only allowing like 500 some a day. wish i could remember, google is not a friend tonight.
anyways, you say you're afraid. i'm not sure what i can do to help you here. i suggested to get the heck out of there but you already told me you're staying. so, if your staying, take some self defense courses and get a weapon, preferably a 9mm beretta and learn to use it.
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
purr4mance: i would never consider getting married to a muslim. my beliefs clash with theirs.
-You would never consider getting married to a Muslim because your beliefs clash with theirs !? Really ? So why did you say that burka and covered up women turns you on ??? I nearly wanted to ask you; have you consider being Muslim...as you believe that all complains about Islam advance's to dominate in Europe are all propaganda...
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
Capricorn143: I have Pur but could not find anything to shake what the numbers say all over the word - the fewer - the fewer problems, with the numbers rising, the demands start, the sense of entitlement grows etc.
And I am not saying there aren't any that do integrate, but their lives are made more difficult by the politically correct "whites"
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