Should feminist activists fight for Muslim women rights, since it effects culture of the west ? (375)
Lookin4missright: you have been making a lot of shpelling misteaks lately bro, you starting to sound croation
allthegoodnamest: I was in conversation with a chauffeur of a Saudi prince last year & when the prince asked his father for funds to visit England , the sheik then asked him who he was & his mothers name.
Fark now i'm confused
... anyway thanks 
Lookin4missright: you have been making a lot of shpelling misteaks lately bro, you starting to sound croation
No small phone,
Lookin4missright: you have been making a lot of shpelling misteaks lately bro, you starting to sound croation
I am notice this also.. He has lost also some SOH, is post many nevos laff when ppeoples talk to the hot chick in boots.
tomcatwarne: No small phone,
But yes I love Croacia but we will meet in Cyprus shhhhhh.
tomcatwarne: No small phone,
or big fingers
lucky whis//// no matter ... i wish my blo*dy mechanic would wake up
allthegoodnamest: I am notice this also.. He has lost also some SOH, is post many nevos laff when ppeoples talk to the hot chick in boots.
I'm still wondering about 4 wives and i can't get 1 root ffs
Lookin4missright: I'm still wondering about 4 wives and i can't get 1 root ffs
ro*t
Lookin4missright: or big fingers
lucky whis//// no matter ... i wish my blo*dy mechanic would wake up
lucky whis//// no matter ... i wish my blo*dy mechanic would wake up
what's that about big fingers and me being lucky ? This thread is about culture
so are you making us all proud for owning your culture in fingers fine movements !? allthegoodnamest: I am notice this also.. He has lost also some SOH, is post many nevos laff when ppeoples talk to the hot chick in boots.
Are you talking about me as 'hot chick' in boots ? Knock, knock! Who's there? Omelette. Omelette who?
Omelette smarter than I look in boots !
Do you know;'What do you call a chicken that crosses the road ?'
-'Poultry in motion !'
Don't become one.
Lookin4missright: you have been making a lot of shpelling misteaks lately bro, you starting to sound croation
Are you picking on Croatians - English accent ?
'What do you call an excited chicken?'
-Hen-thusiastic.
My Tom is enthusiastic -as I am...
and we both have an issue with misspelling when using phone. tomcatwarne: But yes I love Croacia but we will meet in Cyprus shhhhhh.
How about Melbourne. Shhhhhhh...
Why did chicken stop in middle of the road???
He wanted to see his flatmate....
He wanted to see his flatmate....
Lookin4missright: Why did chicken stop in middle of the road???He wanted to see his flatmate....
purr4mance: As there is no overarching regulation of Islamic councils and tribunals, we have no way of knowing how widespread complaints are.
Ania Khan, head of the Islamic department at Duncan Lewis Solicitors, told us: “I am used to having continuous complaints about the English legal system. Once you have a judgement, someone is going to be angry.
“I don’t have that many complaints about sharia council decisions compared to the large amount of decisions they are making.”
Ms Khan said sharia councils could serve a useful purpose if they settle disputes efficiently, but said there are effectively “no checks and balances” on how they operate at the moment.
In your last sentence you said it all!!!No checks and balances on how they operating !!! So they can do what ever they like;no one supervising them.Ania Khan, head of the Islamic department at Duncan Lewis Solicitors, told us: “I am used to having continuous complaints about the English legal system. Once you have a judgement, someone is going to be angry.
“I don’t have that many complaints about sharia council decisions compared to the large amount of decisions they are making.”
Ms Khan said sharia councils could serve a useful purpose if they settle disputes efficiently, but said there are effectively “no checks and balances” on how they operate at the moment.
I've never witnessed a woona thats turned black. On a black woman I'd kind of expect it to be.
123whisper: In your last sentence you said it all!!!No checks and balances on how they operating !!! So they can do what ever they like;no one supervising them.
but the paragraph also states,
“I don’t have that many complaints about sharia council decisions compared to the large amount of decisions they are making.”
In 2008, then Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams sparked an outcry by arguing that adopting ‘some aspects’ of sharia in Britain could help with social cohesion. However, a report the following year by the Civitas think-tank warned that the courts operated behind closed doors and their decisions were likely to be unfair to women.
Examples set out in the study by Islamist specialist Denis MacEoin included a ruling that no Muslim woman may marry a non-Muslim man unless he converts to Islam and that any children of a woman who does should be taken from her until she marries a Muslim.
In 2011, ministers controversially abandoned an inquiry into the rise of secretive sharia councils – because the Muslim courts refused to help.
Read more:
The parallel justice system runs against the law of the land and is condemning British Muslim women to ‘marital captivity’ while failing to protect them from domestic violence, an independent study found.
Under Islamic law, men only need to say ‘I divorce you’ three times to separate from their wives while women need the sanction of clerics.
According to the report, a judge at an East London court told a couple who had already obtained a civil divorce that the paper counted for nothing.
It said the judge – known as a qadi – told the couple: ‘Secular judge does not do religious divorces. We have Islam. Secular courts do not have Islamic laws. Can a kaffir come in and judge Islamic matters?’
In the last sentence we see much of a respect to Kaffir (non -Muslim) law.
Examples set out in the study by Islamist specialist Denis MacEoin included a ruling that no Muslim woman may marry a non-Muslim man unless he converts to Islam and that any children of a woman who does should be taken from her until she marries a Muslim.
In 2011, ministers controversially abandoned an inquiry into the rise of secretive sharia councils – because the Muslim courts refused to help.
Read more:
The parallel justice system runs against the law of the land and is condemning British Muslim women to ‘marital captivity’ while failing to protect them from domestic violence, an independent study found.
Under Islamic law, men only need to say ‘I divorce you’ three times to separate from their wives while women need the sanction of clerics.
According to the report, a judge at an East London court told a couple who had already obtained a civil divorce that the paper counted for nothing.
It said the judge – known as a qadi – told the couple: ‘Secular judge does not do religious divorces. We have Islam. Secular courts do not have Islamic laws. Can a kaffir come in and judge Islamic matters?’
In the last sentence we see much of a respect to Kaffir (non -Muslim) law.
pat8lanips: I've never witnessed a woona thats turned black. On a black woman I'd kind of expect it to be.
No idea. Never slept with women except to snore... 
felixis99: 123whisper I really do not think it is a yes or no answer. women's rights in the west are available to any woman who wishes to support them for herself and others.
So the answer to your question is, maybe, it doesn't matter. All she has to be is a woman, religion is of no consequence. If a woman does not want to exercize all rights available to her that is up to her.
So the answer to your question is, maybe, it doesn't matter. All she has to be is a woman, religion is of no consequence. If a woman does not want to exercize all rights available to her that is up to her.
When Muslims men take a step further by throwing acid in their wife or daughters faces, killing them or disfiguring them for life...what exercise rights is available to women that is only up to her free will ???I wonder how many of Americans realise that a very similar thing happens within their own country.
In Sharia law women are beneath the men, their inheritance, custody over children, safety in domestic violence, ability to divorce is all restricted.
Allowing these Sharia courts effectively means injustice is done to these women !!!
The problem is that husbands consult these courts for rulings on their wives and daughters, and women generally not having much of a voice in Islam, I don't think those women are asked whether or not they wish to submit to the court's decision.
These courts hold sway over the Muslim community, sure if women is not happy with there decision she can go to the secular courts but then she will be ostracised or worse by her Muslim community...
women love freedom..dot...
I actually think you are far from the truth..
Aragorn11: When was the last time you were in the UK ?
No religious laws supercede the Law of the Land much as ppl like to point out they do. There is much fear and hate driven reporting from bigots on this matter, but its just simply not true.
Having lived there recently and visit a lot, I can attest to this.
My culture matters to me, but I can learn a lot from other cultures too.
No religious laws supercede the Law of the Land much as ppl like to point out they do. There is much fear and hate driven reporting from bigots on this matter, but its just simply not true.
Having lived there recently and visit a lot, I can attest to this.
My culture matters to me, but I can learn a lot from other cultures too.
There are no go zones in many cities in UK,
pretending that this is not happening is ridiculous...
As for the Sharia councils they are more powerful than they pretend to be.
Learning from other cultures is good, but often it's just a one way process...
PS Lived long enough in UK to know that...
tomcatwarne: So this is what you get up to
shes just mad cause you didnt leave her any money in your will when you croaked a few years ago.
Well, I am aware of many...and during day time...
Verbal gymnastics don't change the reality.
And I am no copy-paste, everything I say is experience related...
Verbal gymnastics don't change the reality.
And I am no copy-paste, everything I say is experience related...
KremaP: Well, I am aware of many...and during day time...
Verbal gymnastics don't change the reality.
And I am no copy-paste, everything I say is experience related...
Verbal gymnastics don't change the reality.
And I am no copy-paste, everything I say is experience related...
That's to Aragorn...
tomcatwarne: So this is what you get up to
Honey,I was only trying to save you from All jokes on your account.
123whisper: Honey,I was only trying to save you from All jokes on your account.
ok, but you better hide the spade u used to dig him up.
tomcatwarne: darling Whisper,
I have a working knowledge of your countries culture, by your patient teachings.
And I notice that your government is similar to ours, with an elected prime minister, and an elected legislature (4 years) with an idependent judiciary.
I also noted, that alonh with other counties in your region, you are limiting refugees to 5-600 per day.
I applaud the Croatian government for this
I have a working knowledge of your countries culture, by your patient teachings.
And I notice that your government is similar to ours, with an elected prime minister, and an elected legislature (4 years) with an idependent judiciary.
I also noted, that alonh with other counties in your region, you are limiting refugees to 5-600 per day.
I applaud the Croatian government for this
Sorry for spelling errors, small phone
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you have been making a lot of shpelling misteaks lately bro, you starting to sound croation