Identification (26)

Feb 1, 2018 1:22 AM CSTIdentification
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA160 Threads 11 Polls 1,906 Posts

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Do you think it's a good idea to have some way of identifying convicted p*dophile and those convicted of driving while intoxicated, located on their licence plate?

Why or why not?
Feb 1, 2018 2:10 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK4,207 Posts
Most people I know have driven over the limit at some point in their lives, I wouldn't conflate drink driving with paedophilia even though they're both bad.

In any case it depends on how much you want society to resemble the inside of a prison. If you yourself are frustrated like an inmate chances are you do want this as a way to unleash your pent-up aggression and hostility and finally feel like a real man because that's the one thing you never feel like inside a prison or similar. It's prison rules for everyone to know who's done what, waiting for that moment to get picked off.
Feb 1, 2018 2:29 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChrist: Most people I know have driven over the limit at some point in their lives, I wouldn't conflate drink driving with paedophilia even though they're both bad.

In any case it depends on how much you want society to resemble the inside of a prison. If you yourself are frustrated like an inmate chances are you do want this as a way to unleash your pent-up aggression and hostility and finally feel like a real man because that's the one thing you never feel like inside a prison or similar. It's prison rules for everyone to know who's done what, waiting for that moment to get picked off.


It will vary from land to land. According to science only 25% of British children would cheat in exams - as opposed to 75% of American children - and the British adult is more likely to believe in justice instead of revenge. That stuff about British fair play isn't nationalist myth-making, it's true, and there's a reason why 1000 years of the British judicial system produced the best law in the history of mankind. But if you were to ask the Greeks or the Russians - races who believe in justice almost not at all - then they'd put stickers on everybody, the vigilante reigns amongst a corrupt and chaotic people.
Feb 1, 2018 2:50 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK4,207 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It will vary from land to land. According to science only 25% of British children would cheat in exams - as opposed to 75% of American children - and the British adult is more likely to believe in justice instead of revenge. That stuff about British fair play isn't nationalist myth-making, it's true, and there's a reason why 1000 years of the British judicial system produced the best law in the history of mankind. But if you were to ask the Greeks or the Russians - races who believe in justice almost not at all - then they'd put stickers on everybody, the vigilante reigns amongst a corrupt and chaotic people.


Answering yes to vigilante says many other things about you.

Do you believe in the common good? Unlikely.
Will you tax dodge? Very likely.
Do you respect authority? Very unlikely.
Will you believe in moderation and reform? Unlikely.
Will you revolt and/or tend to fanaticism? Likely.
Do you deep down believe you're always right? Very likely.
Feb 1, 2018 3:17 AM CST Identification
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland72 Threads 6,050 Posts
I wouldnt lump the two together.
They are both ends of the spectrum.

If i had my way i would tattoo it on the paedophiles forehead.

But that could be because i havnt had my morning coffee yet.!!
Feb 1, 2018 3:18 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChrist: Answering yes to vigilante says many other things about you.

Do you believe in the common good? Unlikely.
Will you tax dodge? Very likely.
Do you respect authority? Very unlikely.
Will you believe in moderation and reform? Unlikely.
Will you revolt and/or tend to fanaticism? Likely.
Do you deep down believe you're always right? Very likely.


More broadly speaking it's about envy and jostling for position and place versus society at large. Is it better to be in the top 20% of a country where nobody likes or trusts anybody, or is it better to be in the middle of a happy nation?

This is the point, being a disagreeable and self-assertive c*nt may grant you a pay rise within your office, relative to your peers you are better off(which is what matters to the envious and vengeance-filled), but all offfices and industries are worse because there's no team work. For a raise in status today you slow down the progress of all humanity and the vigilante is symbolic of this self-glorifying personality. Everywhere where the vigilante is taken seriously is a shithole country or shithole neighbourhood or shithole prison.
Feb 1, 2018 3:32 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK4,207 Posts
ChesneyChrist: More broadly speaking it's about envy and jostling for position and place versus society at large. Is it better to be in the top 20% of a country where nobody likes or trusts anybody, or is it better to be in the middle of a happy nation?

This is the point, being a disagreeable and self-assertive c*nt may grant you a pay rise within your office, relative to your peers you are better off(which is what matters to the envious and vengeance-filled), but all offfices and industries are worse because there's no team work. For a raise in status today you slow down the progress of all humanity and the vigilante is symbolic of this self-glorifying personality. Everywhere where the vigilante is taken seriously is a shithole country or shithole neighbourhood or shithole prison.


Revenge is the sexy man's justice and now everything has to be about sex. Even making the trains run on time. You might fancy the egotist coming in to smite thine enemies but as a general rule whatever makes your va*ina wet is not to be voted into power unless you want to turn out like f*ck Russia. Whatever fires up your base and primitive appetites is to be ignored - pretend you're living in the sober 1950s, not the populist 1930s.
Feb 1, 2018 3:53 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK4,207 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Revenge is the sexy man's justice and now everything has to be about sex. Even making the trains run on time. You might fancy the egotist coming in to smite thine enemies but as a general rule whatever makes your va*ina wet is not to be voted into power unless you want to turn out like f*ck Russia. Whatever fires up your base and primitive appetites is to be ignored - pretend you're living in the sober 1950s, not the populist 1930s.


There should be a liberal democracy and rule of law class in school. There should have been one for the last 70 years because it's funny how we are back in the 1930s within moments of the generation which remembers the 1930s passing away. What the post-war generation never got hammered into them was the way civilisation needs to work and their duty to make it work, civil society has been overwhelmed by the sex, fun and entertainment obsessed of whimsical generation me until such point where justice and what you want to happen are basically the same thing.
Feb 1, 2018 3:55 AM CST Identification
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA160 Threads 11 Polls 1,906 Posts
I had seen a tv show and this was the topic. I think that convicted child rapist's should be identifiable in some sort of way to help protect the children but as far as convicted drunk or under the influence driver's should not.

In my state, convicted DWI/DUI driver's are required to install a device that the driver must blow into in order to start their car and randomly after that. I would think that would be very embarrassing enough for the driver.
Feb 1, 2018 3:55 AM CST Identification
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA160 Threads 11 Polls 1,906 Posts
Deedee123x: I wouldnt lump the two together.
They are both ends of the spectrum.

If i had my way i would tattoo it on the paedophiles forehead.

But that could be because i havnt had my morning coffee yet.!!


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Feb 1, 2018 3:58 AM CST Identification
They could put bar codes on the peados so when they walk through the door at Toys R Us an alarm goes off
Feb 1, 2018 4:01 AM CST Identification
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA160 Threads 11 Polls 1,906 Posts
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Feb 1, 2018 4:05 AM CST Identification
It is a tough question, as there are extremes of both.

Re. the driving while intoxicated, there is a big difference between one person who is barely over the limit, after having a couple of pints of beer and drives home once, and a serial offender who drinks 20 whiskeys and drives home each time. I wouldn't put them in the same category.

Same with paedophiles. You have the serial offenders who target and rape children, and at the other end of the spectrum you could have the 18 year old who has had sex wit his 16 year old girlfriend.
Both could be put on the sex offenders list, but their 'crimes' are incomparable.
Feb 1, 2018 4:44 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK4,207 Posts
There is one time to be a vigilante and it's also the one time most people wouldn't have the balls for. This is to step in and prevent the criminal in the act at great personal risk. Now I contend that most people who would be the vigilante when it really mattered would not support being one in general. A profoundly selfless hero is unlikely to support revenge for the sake of revenge or torturing criminals where the vigilante general has more in common with the little agent of control bullied at school or by their parents itching for the chance to finally feel above everybody else. What began with alienation and estrangement from the world and people around you ends in the desire to impose your will over society in brutal fashion. The socially rejected, the lonely and the left behind are the seed of those who feel themselves above the law.
Feb 1, 2018 4:48 AM CST Identification
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA160 Threads 11 Polls 1,906 Posts
mollybaby: It is a tough question, as there are extremes of both.

Re. the driving while intoxicated, there is a big difference between one person who is barely over the limit, after having a couple of pints of beer and drives home once, and a serial offender who drinks 20 whiskeys and drives home each time. I wouldn't put them in the same category.

Same with paedophiles. You have the serial offenders who target and rape children, and at the other end of the spectrum you could have the 18 year old who has had sex wit his 16 year old girlfriend.
Both could be put on the sex offenders list, but their 'crimes' are incomparable.


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Feb 1, 2018 5:04 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK4,207 Posts
The end of that last post should be beyond the law, not above the law. The socially rejected and left behind feel themselves beyond the law. Now Donald Trump - the peoples' vigilante champion - and his movement is an alliance between the rich and powerful above the law with the socially crippled and left behind beyond the law. There's a funny overlap between the psychology of high flyers and absolute losers where basically other people don't matter.
Feb 1, 2018 5:28 AM CST Identification
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ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK4,207 Posts
ChesneyChrist: The end of that last post should be beyond the law, not above the law. The socially rejected and left behind feel themselves beyond the law. Now Donald Trump - the peoples' vigilante champion - and his movement is an alliance between the rich and powerful above the law with the socially crippled and left behind beyond the law. There's a funny overlap between the psychology of high flyers and absolute losers where basically other people don't matter.


For example look at Snookums and what will you find? Tyranny and delusions of grandeur - the personification of other people not mattering at all - but no one believes she's the high flyer she claims to be. We know she's not had sex in over 10 years and this is what I mean by the overlap between high flyers and absolute losers. Gutter Trumps you might call them. A social lepresy disease which is not altogether different to the arrogance and hubris of the elites. Trumps fans really are the f*ck ugly(in personality)version of Donald Trump, a great many are. Spolit bastards without the showmanship is them all over.
Feb 1, 2018 6:20 AM CST Identification
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA160 Threads 11 Polls 1,906 Posts
ChesneyChrist: For example look at Snookums and what will you find? Tyranny and delusions of grandeur - the personification of other people not mattering at all - but no one believes she's the high flyer she claims to be. We know she's not had sex in over 10 years and this is what I mean by the overlap between high flyers and absolute losers. Gutter Trumps you might call them. A social lepresy disease which is not altogether different to the arrogance and hubris of the elites. Trumps fans really are the f*ck ugly(in personality)version of Donald Trump, a great many are. Spolit bastards without the showmanship is them all over.


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Feb 1, 2018 6:45 AM CST Identification
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia64 Threads 11 Polls 6,818 Posts
I think the two crimes are different. Getting on the piss and driving home, its not great but its generally not a crime against another person. Molesting children, the offender puts a plan together and knows his/her actions are not right and will damage innocent people.

I think drink driving laws are by and large able to deter the vast majority of offenders. Peddos have a sickness which cant be cured, and so the only question is whether we fall for the psychobabble or if we put the welfare of children first and exclude child sex offenders from society. I think we should buy an exhausted mine site or town, fence it off and let peddos see out their days away from temptation. In my opinion they forfeited the right to live in town.
Feb 1, 2018 9:39 AM CST Identification
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA160 Threads 11 Polls 1,906 Posts
pat8lanips: I think the two crimes are different. Getting on the piss and driving home, its not great but its generally not a crime against another person. Molesting children, the offender puts a plan together and knows his/her actions are not right and will damage innocent people.

I think drink driving laws are by and large able to deter the vast majority of offenders. Peddos have a sickness which cant be cured, and so the only question is whether we fall for the psychobabble or if we put the welfare of children first and exclude child sex offenders from society. I think we should buy an exhausted mine site or town, fence it off and let peddos see out their days away from temptation. In my opinion they forfeited the right to live in town.


Agreed.

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Feb 1, 2018 10:09 AM CST Identification
Miwagionline today!
Miwagionline today!MiwagiFlyover, Kentucky USA72 Threads 2 Polls 3,170 Posts
Ever watch the show To Catch a Predator Frisky? Chris Hansen and his team confront sex offenders before the police get involved. They made entertainment out of entrapping these guys, by making them think they were talking to an under aged girl. And then set up a fake meet to get the guys to actually show up. So in fact they never actually communicated with a minor, the girl was 18. So anyway I sure most these guys may have ended up having sex if the circumstances were real, and some others may have had second thoughts. Anyway at the end of the show the cops always arrest the guy as he is leaving after having been filmed and humiliated. Do you think these guys should all be made to register as sex offenders for the rest of their life?
Feb 1, 2018 10:15 AM CST Identification
Miwagionline today!
Miwagionline today!MiwagiFlyover, Kentucky USA72 Threads 2 Polls 3,170 Posts
Miwagi: Ever watch the show To Catch a Predator Frisky? Chris Hansen and his team confront sex offenders before the police get involved. They made entertainment out of entrapping these guys, by making them think they were talking to an under aged girl. And then set up a fake meet to get the guys to actually show up. So in fact they never actually communicated with a minor, the girl was 18. So anyway I sure most these guys may have ended up having sex if the circumstances were real, and some others may have had second thoughts. Anyway at the end of the show the cops always arrest the guy as he is leaving after having been filmed and humiliated. Do you think these guys should all be made to register as sex offenders for the rest of their life?


Feb 1, 2018 12:35 PM CST Identification
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA12 Threads 2,269 Posts
IDENTIFICATION???????

What? You don't know who you are? Well, DON'T ask ME to identify you!

What? You don't want to give a person a chance to REHABILITATE themselves? I AGREE that pedophilia is a CRIMINAL act! And SHOULD be punished! (And for LONGER than they USUALLY get!) But I ALSO know an 18 year old boy who got convicted of statutory rape of his 3 year 17 year old girlfriend! SHE wouldn't testify against him! But it DIDN'T matter, because SHE was under the age of consent! And her PARENTS pressed the charges! Should that boy have to deal with ALL the problems inherent in walking around with a sign on his neck, saying "I'm a rapist!", for the rest of his life? Sorry. NO! "I" don't think so! And, if EVERYBODY that for stopped for speeding, in California (and you CAN'T NOT speed, in California! Or you'll get run over!) got tested for drugs and/or alcohol, we MIGHT actually be able to GO somewhere, on our freeways! They'd be DESERTED (well, relatively, anyway!), because you'd register positive for marijuana, if you just breathe the air! Hell! The kids would probably TRY to get arrested, just so THEIR LICENSE PLATE would tell everybody that THEY smoke pot!

No. Sorry! NOT a good solution! scold handshake comfort hug
Feb 1, 2018 9:53 PM CST Identification
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia64 Threads 11 Polls 6,818 Posts
Yeah, they'd have some pretty good pot over there now its all legal and cool. Spose the sky could fall.
Feb 1, 2018 10:31 PM CST Identification
It’s a good idea to just ....

Feb 2, 2018 2:27 AM CST Identification
On their licence plate? :confusion:

In the case of child abuse, most victims are known to the abuser. Promoting stranger danger concepts have been found to be counter-productive in terms of protecting children.

If a child abuser is seeking out children to befriend, groom and abuse, then are they not likely to think of changing their plates borrowing a car, or any number of means to avoid detection? Isn't that already what they do?

Should vigilanteism be promoted? Trial without jury, or evidence? What if, as has happened, you just happened to have the same name as a convicted child abuser? Would you accept persecution, or want the legal system to protect you pretty damned quick?

What are these identification ideas about?

I suspect people want to feel safe. I suspect people want to feel in control of their lives.

Will identification provide that? Or will it ultimately do the opposite as criminals become more cunning/underground and otherwise law abiding citizens become criminals?

What is child abuse about? Feeling in control of a more vulnerable human being? Feeling less vulnerable by comparison?

Would something like identification actually promote the social ethos that an acceptable way of life is to make yourself feel more powerful by picking on someone more vulnerable?

If we didn't worship the God of hierarchy, would there be less picking on children and kicking the dog?
Feb 26, 2018 9:18 AM CST Identification
Hummm.. how about every non legal citizen have "Alien" posted on their license plate?

Driving is a "privlege" in the United States. It is NOT a "right". And privlege (s) should be removed from many
 
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