Ambrose2007: Well, right, I understand what you're saying. What I'm asking is that if you had a choice between giving up your pets and your soulmate, which would you choose (given that the reasons for having to make that choice were compelling and reasonable in themselves).
For example, let's say your dog became obsessively jealous of your love, to the point of attacking him on sight? Or perhaps your love was strongly allergic to him? Or perhaps your pets were interfering with a life-choice (such as relocation) that involved your Love?
The situations could likely be dealt with - to use your examples, the dog could undergo some remedial training - although maybe the dog is picking up something about that person that I need to be aware of and is being protective of me....just saying....
They have allergy medications for people.
Can't really see (at least for myself) where a cat and fish would interfere with a life-choice as in relocation - but, whatever, if a decision was made to move - it would be automatic for me to include my pets with me. The SO/lifemate would already know this.
Ambrose2007: Right, Tina, but disposal wouldn't be necessary - finding a new home would suffice.
I'll give you an example from my own marriage: my then-"SO" had hundreds of mice and several other pets that made it highly problematic to find a place that would accommodate them (and us). I asked that she consider reducing her animal "posse," and she (eventually) agreed.
I just couldn't do it...my dog has been through it all with me and my 2 girls...to me it would be like putting my child into foster care--he could never adjust....
Ambrose2007: Right, Tina, but disposal wouldn't be necessary - finding a new home would suffice.
I'll give you an example from my own marriage: my then-"SO" had hundreds of mice and several other pets that made it highly problematic to find a place that would accommodate them (and us). I asked that she consider reducing her animal "posse," and she (eventually) agreed.
But there's a difference between having a horde of pets and being asked to reduce if the multitude of them seriously creates a problem, and asking someone to get rid of their sole (or 2 or 3) beloved family pet(s).
If I had 10 cats running around, and my SO asked me to reduce to a manageable amount, then I would consider, but would also be very strict about the households they go into. As I only have the one now (or even when it was 2), there's no way I would consider getting rid of her.
prairiewoman: The situations could likely be dealt with - to use your examples, the dog could undergo some remedial training - although maybe the dog is picking up something about that person that I need to be aware of and is being protective of me....just saying....
They have allergy medications for people.
Can't really see (at least for myself) where a cat and fish would interfere with a life-choice as in relocation - but, whatever, if a decision was made to move - it would be automatic for me to include my pets with me. The SO/lifemate would already know this.
Well...you're not accepting my hypothetical, Praire. It's like if I asked "What would you do if you were missing a leg," and the response was: "But I'm not missing a leg, and I will take the necessary steps to prevent that."
Yes, of course, practically speaking, you probably could solve most likely issues. But that isn't my question. I'm asking IF you HAD to make a choice that was reasonably necessitated, which would you choose?
tina_olson: I just couldn't do it...my dog has been through it all with me and my 2 girls...to me it would be like putting my child into foster care--he could never adjust....
That would be pretty unthinkable, Tina, I agree.
Let me give you another example from real life: in order to be with my love, I have had to, in essence, surrender custody of my beloved cat to someone else. And I did that more than willingly.
What do you and all the others think about this, I wonder...?
Ambrose,I guess with myself-so far there has been no significant other-the one man I dated for 9 months I thought he was but had he asked me to get rid of my dog and then it ended...guess with me my dog has been loyal whose to say how long your (SO) might be... And any man I do chose to date would have to love animals... My daughter has 7 mice for pet's...ewwww but she loves them...
Ambrose2007: That would be pretty unthinkable, Tina, I agree.
Let me give you another example from real life: in order to be with my love, I have had to, in essence, surrender custody of my beloved cat to someone else. And I did that more than willingly.
What do you and all the others think about this, I wonder...?
That is a decision we all have to make and live with...You made your choice not for me to judge and you are lucky to have found someone whom you both must love each other very much...
Ambrose2007: Well...you're not accepting my hypothetical, Praire. It's like if I asked "What would you do if you were missing a leg," and the response was: "But I'm not missing a leg, and I will take the necessary steps to prevent that."
Yes, of course, practically speaking, you probably could solve most likely issues. But that isn't my question. I'm asking IF you HAD to make a choice that was reasonably necessitated, which would you choose?
Okay, if I HAD to make a choice - it would be my pets. I've never met a man who has made me even contemplate otherwise.
Ambrose2007: That would be pretty unthinkable, Tina, I agree.
Let me give you another example from real life: in order to be with my love, I have had to, in essence, surrender custody of my beloved cat to someone else. And I did that more than willingly.
What do you and all the others think about this, I wonder...?
It's not my place to judge someone else's decisions. You have made a decision and were lucky enough to find a good home for your cat. As a responsible pet owner that's a good thing - how many pets have been abandoned?
I'm just saying that for myself - it is a package deal.
tina_olson: Ambrose,I guess with myself-so far there has been no significant other-the one man I dated for 9 months I thought he was but had he asked me to get rid of my dog and then it ended...guess with me my dog has been loyal whose to say how long your (SO) might be... And any man I do chose to date would have to love animals... My daughter has 7 mice for pet's...ewwww but she loves them...
That's an issue you face with other people versus your SO as well, Tina. Your best friend will likely be your best friend for the rest of your life. You will always have the loyalty (presumably) of your children, parents, siblings, etc.
And yet for many the single most important and most-loved individual in your life is (or would be) your life-mate/spouse - and there are no guarantees you two will always be in love. I remember my oldest son once said he would choose his love over me and his mom, if it came down to it. And I believe he would've. Then they broke up a few months later...
Still, for me, the woman that I love romantically as my life/soul mate is someone I love above all others...despite how rather terrifying it might be that I could someday lose her. I'm not sure whether that means I'm idealistic or old-fashioned or rationally minded on this subject, but I do believe romantic love represents the ultimate form of love. Not all agree.
I once asked my aunt, who enjoys an incredibly close and loving relationship with her many children and grandchildren, whether she valued her husband above all others. She replied without an instant's hesitation: Yes.
I would do the same. So for me pets, which I cannot rate as highly as I would the human beings in my life, would not compare in importance to my life mate.
tina_olson: That is a decision we all have to make and live with...You made your choice not for me to judge and you are lucky to have found someone whom you both must love each other very much...
Thanks, Tina. But what I was more interested in...do you see yourself making a similar choice if you were in the same situation?
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
Ambrose2007: Okay...but just to be absolutely clear on this: You would value your hound over any woman that you might fall in love with?
Well I wouldnt 'get rid' of him as you suggested, for anyone. But, Bodie isnt exactly my dog, he's our family dog. So, I guess, if I met someone i wanted to be with who lived some distance away, I suppose I would have a difficult decision to make.
prairiewoman: It's not my place to judge someone else's decisions. You have made a decision and were lucky enough to find a good home for your cat. As a responsible pet owner that's a good thing - how many pets have been abandoned?
I'm just saying that for myself - it is a package deal.
Oh, I didn't intend to ask how you or others would judge my situation, but rather whether you would consider my action if you found yourself in my situation.
I think you answered that question above, however.
prairiewoman: Okay, if I HAD to make a choice - it would be my pets. I've never met a man who has made me even contemplate otherwise.
Thank you, Prarie.
I wonder if you can imagine a man who would make you engage in such contemplations (and what significance you might attach to not having met such an individual)?
I wonder if you can imagine a man who would make you engage in such contemplations (and what significance you might attach to not having met such an individual)?
In a word, no. I can't imagine/envision myself existing anywhere without at least one pet(nor would I want to). But that's just me.
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
bodleing: Well I wouldnt 'get rid' of him as you suggested, for anyone. But, Bodie isnt exactly my dog, he's our family dog. So, I guess, if I met someone i wanted to be with who lived some distance away, I suppose I would have a difficult decision to make.
bodleing: Well I wouldnt 'get rid' of him as you suggested, for anyone. But, Bodie isnt exactly my dog, he's our family dog. So, I guess, if I met someone i wanted to be with who lived some distance away, I suppose I would have a difficult decision to make.
Right, B - as I wrote earlier, there is a difference between getting rid of a pet because someone demands it and being pressured to do so because of compelling reasons - and certainly between "getting rid" and "finding new home."
jojo1859: I think I would go with depending because if my dog were sickly and going to die anyway then i would put him down, or if my husband were allergic to my dog, it'd be hard but I think I'd still get rid of him.
No way, i have had my dog since he was born, and he has been a better friend to me then any woman i ever dated since..least he can listen and not talk back
Ambrose you asked this: For example, let's say your dog became obsessively jealous of your love, to the point of attacking him on sight? Or perhaps your love was strongly allergic to him? Or perhaps your pets were interfering with a life-choice (such as relocation) that involved your Love?
If I had a man in my life whom I was only dating and I had a dog/cat which showed signs of over agression towards anyone including the man I'd been dating I would most ceratinly get rid of said pet.I wouldn't have a pet around even myself if it were to display that type of personality.That dog/cat would be gone.
If the man I was dating happened to be allergic to my pet I really don't know what I'd do.But I'm also allegic myself to pet dander and taking allergy pills because of that.I do someone who's taking allergy pills just to be around his brothers dog.
If the relocation deals with moving out of the country, I don't plan on meeting anyone out of the country anyway. But if you're talking about a relocation within my own country for a job relocation depending on how many pets I had I would have to decide which and how many of my pets to get rid of if it came to that.
If it came to a life-choice which involved someone I loved and was planning a life the answer as in the one above depending on how many pets I had to which one/ones I found homes for.
Ambrose I don't know if this answers the Example question you had asked someone else but this is what I'd probably do.
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
True, but who would want to get rid of this fella.
Ambrose2007: Right, B - as I wrote earlier, there is a difference between getting rid of a pet because someone demands it and being pressured to do so because of compelling reasons - and certainly between "getting rid" and "finding new home."
somechick: Ambrose you asked this: For example, let's say your dog became obsessively jealous of your love, to the point of attacking him on sight? Or perhaps your love was strongly allergic to him? Or perhaps your pets were interfering with a life-choice (such as relocation) that involved your Love?If I had a man in my life whom I was only dating and I had a dog/cat which showed signs of over agression towards anyone including the man I'd been dating I would most ceratinly get rid of said pet.I wouldn't have a pet around even myself if it were to display that type of personality.That dog/cat would be gone.
If the man I was dating happened to be allergic to my pet I really don't know what I'd do.But I'm also allegic myself to pet dander and taking allergy pills because of that.I do someone who's taking allergy pills just to be around his brothers dog.
If the relocation deals with moving out of the country, I don't plan on meeting anyone out of the country anyway. But if you're talking about a relocation within my own country for a job relocation depending on how many pets I had I would have to decide which and how many of my pets to get rid of if it came to that.
If it came to a life-choice which involved someone I loved and was planning a life the answer as in the one above depending on how many pets I had to which one/ones I found homes for.
Ambrose I don't know if this answers the Example question you had asked someone else but this is what I'd probably do.
Well, thanks, Anna - I think you have answered my questions, and I appreciate that. This is a real issue, and despite the tragic misspelling in the OP, I'm glad the issue was raised again. Many of us have had to deal with this question at one time or another.
Ambrose2007: I have a couple of questions for those who say "no way" to giving up a pet for your "S.O.": Are you reacting to the idea that your SO would demand that you, or are you saying that your SO/lifemate is inferior in value to your pets?
Anyone who has a problem with my pets wouldnt become my S.O.
I have already posted that I stopped dating a guy who was allergic to my cats.
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For example, let's say your dog became obsessively jealous of your love, to the point of attacking him on sight? Or perhaps your love was strongly allergic to him? Or perhaps your pets were interfering with a life-choice (such as relocation) that involved your Love?
The situations could likely be dealt with - to use your examples, the dog could undergo some remedial training - although maybe the dog is picking up something about that person that I need to be aware of and is being protective of me....just saying....
They have allergy medications for people.
Can't really see (at least for myself) where a cat and fish would interfere with a life-choice as in relocation - but, whatever, if a decision was made to move - it would be automatic for me to include my pets with me. The SO/lifemate would already know this.