How BAD is Obama as president? (776)
zee1ander: Plus I think saddling our great grandchildren with a debt that they still may never get out of is still more impressive than anything Bush ever did and Obama did that in less that 100 days, not 8 years.
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zee
And again, I agree with you that we are going the wrong way by trying to spend our way out of the recession
zee1ander: First we were hearing "Wait until Obama gets into office", then it was "give him a chance, see what he does in his first month", then it was 2, 3 and 4 months. Then we started hearing a year, then his first term, then he may not get it fixed in his first term, wait for his second.
Geez, now I'm hearing that we need to give Obama 50 years to see if he's done a good job. We might as well just give him a pass and expect nothing out of him.... The presidential welfare system.
If you expect nothing out of people they will fulfill your ever expectation.
zee
Geez, now I'm hearing that we need to give Obama 50 years to see if he's done a good job. We might as well just give him a pass and expect nothing out of him.... The presidential welfare system.
If you expect nothing out of people they will fulfill your ever expectation.
zee
as i have previously stated in other forums, i agree with his stem cell research, his willing to close gitmo, however not so sure about those bailouts(i dont know what the answer woulda been to that one, let the whole economy collapse??), and now they're saying iraq and afghanistan are going to take 5 years to get complete calm in the region.......
zee1ander: Plus I think saddling our great grandchildren with a debt that they still may never get out of is still more impressive than anything Bush ever did and Obama did that in less that 100 days, not 8 years.
zee
zee
have to agree there.....but i dont know what the alternative answer would've been to that one.....
over to you zee
rocketqueen: have to agree there.....but i dont know what the alternative answer would've been to that one.....
over to you zee
over to you zee
After every downturn, there's an upturn.
Indyfella: After every downturn, there's an upturn.
i realise this indy..........
after the economy completely collapsed... i see you woulda been the first one complaining when all your investments went broke and you would have had to rely on welfare
rocketqueen: have to agree there.....but i dont know what the alternative answer would've been to that one.....
over to you zee
over to you zee
Well, when all this money is pumped into failing companies and they are still failing.... when money is pumped into the banking system to free up money for loans and the banks still are making loans.... it is a tough call, because like everything said about Bush is after the fact. if these people were so smart, they would have stopped it before it got started.
It seems to me, when people get deep into debt, they cut until it is manageable. I really don't think that if I had more money going out each month than i had coming in, I wouldn't go on a spending spree.
The government is also ruining the dollar. They are printing it faster than ever before with nothing to back it up.
We are really heading for a melt down in the currency market because countries are starting to refuse the US Dollar as a viable currency.
zee
zee1ander: Well, when all this money is pumped into failing companies and they are still failing.... when money is pumped into the banking system to free up money for loans and the banks still are making loans.... it is a tough call, because like everything said about Bush is after the fact. if these people were so smart, they would have stopped it before it got started.
It seems to me, when people get deep into debt, they cut until it is manageable. I really don't think that if I had more money going out each month than i had coming in, I wouldn't go on a spending spree.
The government is also ruining the dollar. They are printing it faster than ever before with nothing to back it up.
We are really heading for a melt down in the currency market because countries are starting to refuse the US Dollar as a viable currency.
zee
It seems to me, when people get deep into debt, they cut until it is manageable. I really don't think that if I had more money going out each month than i had coming in, I wouldn't go on a spending spree.
The government is also ruining the dollar. They are printing it faster than ever before with nothing to back it up.
We are really heading for a melt down in the currency market because countries are starting to refuse the US Dollar as a viable currency.
zee
I meant "aren't making loans"
But you all are smart and knew what I meant.
zee
rocketqueen: have to agree there.....but i dont know what the alternative answer would've been to that one.....
over to you zee
over to you zee
also....
zee
zee1ander: Well, when all this money is pumped into failing companies and they are still failing.... when money is pumped into the banking system to free up money for loans and the banks still are making loans.... it is a tough call, because like everything said about Bush is after the fact. if these people were so smart, they would have stopped it before it got started.
It seems to me, when people get deep into debt, they cut until it is manageable. I really don't think that if I had more money going out each month than i had coming in, I wouldn't go on a spending spree.
The government is also ruining the dollar. They are printing it faster than ever before with nothing to back it up.
We are really heading for a melt down in the currency market because countries are starting to refuse the US Dollar as a viable currency.
zee
It seems to me, when people get deep into debt, they cut until it is manageable. I really don't think that if I had more money going out each month than i had coming in, I wouldn't go on a spending spree.
The government is also ruining the dollar. They are printing it faster than ever before with nothing to back it up.
We are really heading for a melt down in the currency market because countries are starting to refuse the US Dollar as a viable currency.
zee
ok...so you and i agree with letting these companies fail??
i mean after all it is capitalism after all......
i would just be worried of the pure anarchy that would probly start tho..............
rocketqueen: i realise this indy..........
after the economy completely collapsed... i see you woulda been the first one complaining when all your investments went broke and you would have had to rely on welfare
after the economy completely collapsed... i see you woulda been the first one complaining when all your investments went broke and you would have had to rely on welfare
I appreciate your concern for me.... You must love me.
zee1ander: also....
zee
zee
i had to say that because your the only repub on here in the last couple of days thats putting anything REAL (ie issues) on here to debate.........
the others just come in an sni**er and make derogatory comments, with no REAL input
Indyfella: I appreciate your concern for me.... You must love me.
au contrair indy, i do.....i love everyone, i just dont like your ignorance, thats all
rocketqueen: i had to say that because your the only repub on here in the last couple of days thats putting anything REAL (ie issues) on here to debate.........
the others just come in an sni**er and make derogatory comments, with no REAL input
the others just come in an sni**er and make derogatory comments, with no REAL input
thank you sweetie, but please don't divert my attention.... we all know you kick my butt in debates as it is...
zee
zee1ander: thank you sweetie, but please don't divert my attention.... we all know you kick my butt in debates as it is...
zee
zee
Da10th: I'm with you as far as N.Korea and how it was handled by the Clinton admin. I'm far from a Clinton supporter in an form, shape or fashion.
Glad that 9/11 didn't happen on his watch. All he woulda done is send over a few million dollar cruise missiles to destroy 10$ camels and called it a day.
Glad that 9/11 didn't happen on his watch. All he woulda done is send over a few million dollar cruise missiles to destroy 10$ camels and called it a day.
in regards to that short sharp air-strike on iraq when clinton was in government, that shut down saddam didnt it tho???????
rocketqueen: thats if they have any money left after that business fails (the nvestors are usually 3rd on the list to get any money back, after the creditors, and liquidators)
In the case of AIG, is anyone with a claim getting paid out? AIG is still knee deep in the manure. What is the advantage of paying a company for protection when you don't get paid for a claim? Companies could have started a new policy with someone else and been better protected, I would think.
I was insured with AIG for home and Auto... after receiving a huge hike in my bill, I went somewhere else.
zee
rocketqueen: in regards to that short sharp air-strike on iraq when clinton was in government, that shut down saddam didnt it tho???????
You mean by the Israelis? We are not the Israel. Who then would conduct the strike? Plus what would stop the North Korean Army from invading South Korea? It would be a rout by pure numbers.
zee
zee1ander: In the case of AIG, is anyone with a claim getting paid out? AIG is still knee deep in the manure. What is the advantage of paying a company for protection when you don't get paid for a claim? Companies could have started a new policy with someone else and been better protected, I would think.
I was insured with AIG for home and Auto... after receiving a huge hike in my bill, I went somewhere else.
zee
I was insured with AIG for home and Auto... after receiving a huge hike in my bill, I went somewhere else.
zee
well not sure on whether people are gettin claims paid out...
i was generalising when i wrote my previous statement, ads thats what usually happens
its all a big circle tho isnt it......
rocketqueen: well not sure on whether people are gettin claims paid out...
i was generalising when i wrote my previous statement, ads thats what usually happens
its all a big circle tho isnt it......
i was generalising when i wrote my previous statement, ads thats what usually happens
its all a big circle tho isnt it......
You know it.
zee
zee1ander: You mean by the Israelis? We are not the Israel. Who then would conduct the strike? Plus what would stop the North Korean Army from invading South Korea? It would be a rout by pure numbers.
zee
zee
no i meant by the americans back in the mid 90's....when it looked like saddam was heading back to kuwait???
rocketqueen: no i meant by the americans back in the mid 90's....when it looked like saddam was heading back to kuwait???
Honestly not sure which incident you are referring too, we bombed him so many times in the 90s.
zee1ander: You know it.
zee
zee
i think we do need that new world order...........i am soo afraid of the upheavel and anarchy tho...and what type of regime would then rule
rocketqueen: no i meant by the americans back in the mid 90's....when it looked like saddam was heading back to kuwait???
ah, yes, but the question still comes up.... who will do it? The US really can't for silly political reasons.
zee
Da10th: Honestly not sure which incident you are referring too, we bombed him so many times in the 90s.
when clinton was in office......and the iraqis retreated so fast, you couldnt see them for the dust!!!!!!! (imagine roadrunner!!)
kathy12345: Don't we all
Ah, you smart women scare me.
zee
rocketqueen: when clinton was in office......and the iraqis retreated so fast, you couldnt see them for the dust!!!!!!! (imagine roadrunner!!)
beep beep...But Iraq still hadn't recovered from the Persian Gulf War. His Military was still weak and he knew what US Air Power could do to him. Sadam was ready to give up power just yet. Plus, Sadam couldn't afford to loose many more Baby Milk Factories when he was trying to build his population back up to supply his military.
zee
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zee
I'm with you as far as N.Korea and how it was handled by the Clinton admin. I'm far from a Clinton supporter in an form, shape or fashion.
Glad that 9/11 didn't happen on his watch. All he woulda done is send over a few million dollar cruise missiles to destroy 10$ camels and called it a day.