How BAD is Obama as president? (776)

Apr 22, 2009 10:12 AM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Paulababy20: Obviously im not an Obama fan..i dont care for socialism, high taxes, weak military and changing the fact that we are at war with terrorist killers. I just hope in 2010 and 2012 we put people back in Washington DC that know what the hell they are doing..and not on-the-job training!!!


Politics is all a big puppet show anyway.
The same forces control all the parties.
Apr 22, 2009 11:08 AM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
Paulababy20: Obviously im not an Obama fan..i dont care for socialism, high taxes, weak military and changing the fact that we are at war with terrorist killers. I just hope in 2010 and 2012 we put people back in Washington DC that know what the hell they are doing..and not on-the-job training!!!


Obama isn't a socialist. doh

Tell you what's worse than socialism - and that is what we have and had going on for ages - paying people welfare and not training them and not putting them to work.
Apr 22, 2009 11:29 AM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
NordicSkier
NordicSkierNordicSkierChicago, Illinois USA54 Posts
Scubadiva: Obama isn't a socialist.

Tell you what's worse than socialism - and that is what we have and had going on for ages - paying people welfare and not training them and not putting them to work.


What you are referring to more accurately would be called in the States as "hush money."

We've paid out welfare, AFDC, and a host of other benefits to keep those people who receive it from looting. Of course, the people that are paying for such nonsense are themselves being looted, namely the taxpayers.

Since the recipients of such payments can receive them for years, they have no incentive to work or attempt to get work.

Obams's brand of entitlements certainly is socialism. It cannot be called capitalism because it's funded by the government, not the private sector; there is no exchange of goods (money is being paid out with no revenues to match it).

European welfare statism has put a brake on their economies' growth for decades, since most the fuel for such outlays has been in the form of staggering tax burdens on individuals and businesses. High labor costs also have translated into higher unemployment rates. Worker productivity is also somewhat lower than in the U.S.

Our competitive advantage is evaporating, however, and the staggering debt can only pull down our standard of living. In that respect, we are heading toward socialism, since its aim is to reduce every individual to the lowest common denominator.
Apr 22, 2009 1:14 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
newlife09
newlife09newlife09Pittston, Pennsylvania USA4 Threads 233 Posts
zee1ander: Actually i live in Kentucky. Before you Bash Kentucky....

Of course...everyone I know that lives in Argentina lives in Kentucky.

And why would I bash Kentucky? Are you used to that reaction or something?
Apr 22, 2009 3:30 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Fidel kicked him in the Shin quite nicely today!



Apr 22, 2009 4:00 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
newlife09: Of course...everyone I know that lives in Argentina lives in Kentucky.

And why would I bash Kentucky? Are you used to that reaction or something?


With pride, he can say he doesn't live in the same state as John Murthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 22, 2009 5:25 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Fallingman: Don't sweat it RQ. He and the other old crusty never really acknowledge counter-argument at all. To do so would meant they would have to have something constructive to say or to open their minds to minor failings in their political religion. Mock and sni**er is all they are good for. Dude suits them as an opponent as he always uses a sledgehammer. Even then they just laugh at him without engaging in real debate.

Fix your fence and get out in the sun!


Comedy hour... I'll buy the drink. cheers


Wish I could find something of substance to rebuff. But when foreigners get their information from DailyCos or The Huffington Post... I see it as a worthless endeavor. comfort
Apr 22, 2009 6:13 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
yawn mornin all
Apr 22, 2009 6:13 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
rocketqueen: mornin all
wave
Apr 22, 2009 6:15 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Fallingman: Don't sweat it RQ. He and the other old crusty never really acknowledge counter-argument at all. To do so would meant they would have to have something constructive to say or to open their minds to minor failings in their political religion. Mock and sni**er is all they are good for. Dude suits them as an opponent as he always uses a sledgehammer. Even then they just laugh at him without engaging in real debate.

Fix your fence and get out in the sun!



thank you .........lips bouquet
Apr 22, 2009 6:19 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: Comedy hour... I'll buy the drink. Wish I could find something of substance to rebuff. But when foreigners get their information from DailyCos or The Huffington Post... I see it as a worthless endeavor.


indy i have rarely seen you put anything of subsatnce actual;;y on here so your no-one to talk .....

one time you did put something up that was informational, i nearly fell off my chair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!laugh tongue
Apr 22, 2009 6:40 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
NordicSkier: What you are referring to more accurately would be called in the States as "hush money."

We've paid out welfare, AFDC, and a host of other benefits to keep those people who receive it from looting. Of course, the people that are paying for such nonsense are themselves being looted, namely the taxpayers.

Since the recipients of such payments can receive them for years, they have no incentive to work or attempt to get work.

Obams's brand of entitlements certainly is socialism. It cannot be called capitalism because it's funded by the government, not the private sector; there is no exchange of goods (money is being paid out with no revenues to match it).

European welfare statism has put a brake on their economies' growth for decades, since most the fuel for such outlays has been in the form of staggering tax burdens on individuals and businesses. High labor costs also have translated into higher unemployment rates. Worker productivity is also somewhat lower than in the U.S.

Our competitive advantage is evaporating, however, and the staggering debt can only pull down our standard of living. In that respect, we are heading toward socialism, since its aim is to reduce every individual to the lowest common denominator.


oh and do you fail to see the company execs who own their own through their greed and failure to keep competitive, have helped to bankrupt the country????

mmmmm....as i have said before its not your ordinary everyday fellow citizens that shaft you and send you broke.....

i'm afraid its your corrupt company execs who tell you to look out the window to beware of your felow neighbour, while they come up behind you and shaft from behind.........

and going into war with a 1. country who offered up bin laden IN THE FIRST PLACE and 2. a country whos oil was required to prop up those corporations that wiped out any thought/inventions of alternative fuels because it would hurt their profits.....BUT F*** the environment, and any lives lost.......aslong as thier bottom line is good who cares??????????
Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: oh and do you fail to see the company execs who own their own through their greed and failure to keep competitive, have helped to bankrupt the country????

mmmmm....as i have said before its not your ordinary everyday fellow citizens that shaft you and send you broke.....

i'm afraid its your corrupt company execs who tell you to look out the window to beware of your felow neighbour, while they come up behind you and shaft from behind.........

and going into war with a 1. country who offered up bin laden IN THE FIRST PLACE and 2. a country whos oil was required to prop up those corporations that wiped out any thought/inventions of alternative fuels because it would hurt their profits.....BUT F*** the environment, and any lives lost.......aslong as thier bottom line is good who cares??????????


Do a little legwork. Most of those execs are now in the Obama administration. I've provided the list before...so I won't do it again.
Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: indy i have rarely seen you put anything of subsatnce actual;;y on here so your no-one to talk .....

one time you did put something up that was informational, i nearly fell off my chair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Funny...I got the same rush when I saw you post something factual. thumbs up
Apr 22, 2009 6:47 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: Funny...I got the same rush when I saw you post something factual.

heres a quote for you indy from the great dr gonzo himself.......

America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.
grin laugh
Apr 22, 2009 6:49 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
rocketqueen: heres a quote for you indy from the great dr gonzo himself.......

America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.



and this one.......
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.
Apr 22, 2009 6:52 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
rocketqueen: and this one.......
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.


But in a free society, those who commit cromes see the end of a noose or the last thing they see is the end of a barrel and a muzzle flash.

zee
Apr 22, 2009 6:53 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
zee1ander: But in a free society, those who commit cromes see the end of a noose or the last thing they see is the end of a barrel and a muzzle flash.

zee


Cromes / crimes.... tomato / tomato

zee
Apr 22, 2009 6:55 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Indyfella: Do a little legwork. Most of those execs are now in the Obama administration. I've provided the list before...so I won't do it again.


Right...a bunch of corrupt (ex)executives populating Obama's administration. Ought to make the Obama-believers take a second look, I'm thinking.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

The Who
Apr 22, 2009 6:56 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: Do a little legwork. Most of those execs are now in the Obama administration. I've provided the list before...so I won't do it again.



ooooh indy i do know you know??????????? if i have to point out what i was referring in nordicskiers qoutes then it really does prove to me how one eyed you are......

but twist away all you like ........mr rupert murdochroll eyes
Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: Cromes / crimes.... tomato / tomato

zee


potato/potato....lets call the whole thing offlaugh
Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Ambrose2007: Right...a bunch of corrupt (ex)executives populating Obama's administration. Ought to make the Obama-believers take a second look, I'm thinking.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

The Who


Very well quoted

zee
Apr 22, 2009 6:58 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: But in a free society, those who commit cromes see the end of a noose or the last thing they see is the end of a barrel and a muzzle flash.

zee



zee you didnt get it..........
Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Ambrose2007: Right...a bunch of corrupt (ex)executives populating Obama's administration. Ought to make the Obama-believers take a second look, I'm thinking.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

The Who



......but we got fooled againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn dancing
Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
rocketqueen: potato/potato....lets call the whole thing off


Fine... then there is no reason for me to stay on this site... you really know how to break a heart.blues crying

zee
Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: ooooh indy i do know you know??????????? if i have to point out what i was referring in nordicskiers qoutes then it really does prove to me how one eyed you are......

but twist away all you like ........mr rupert murdoch


Which tells me how narrow minded you are... thumbs down
Apr 22, 2009 7:13 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Ambrose2007: Right...a bunch of corrupt (ex)executives populating Obama's administration. Ought to make the Obama-believers take a second look, I'm thinking.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

The Who


"He knew who I was, at that time, because I had a reputation as a writer. I knew he was part of the Bush dynasty. But he was nothing, he offered nothing, and he promised nothing. He had no humor. He was insignificant in every way and consequently I didn't pay much attention to him. But when he passed out in my bathtub, then I noticed him. I'd been in another room, talking to the bright people. I had to have him taken away." -on meeting George W Bush at Thompson's Super Bowl party in Houston in 1974
Apr 22, 2009 7:15 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: Which tells me how narrow minded you are...


rolling on the floor laughing professor
Apr 22, 2009 7:16 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: Fine... then there is no reason for me to stay on this site... you really know how to break a heart.

zee

tongue hug

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