Dan0340: I consider myself an Independent, meaning I vote for the individual and not a party. I don't have an ax to grind. I voted for Bush the first time around.
But I gotta say that after these past 7 years the GOP deserve to be taken out of the game and benched. Now all this negativity you hear is little more than sour grapes. Many act like children who didnt get their way and are pouting. Hopefully they'll get over it and shut up. Some are so bitter they sound like they'd rather see the country fail than to be out of power. Nothing Obama does will ever be good enough.
It's not really about the good of the country. Its about lust for power!
Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this!
And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.
Indyfella: So after Obama closes Gitmo, where does he store the prisoners? Congressional Dems say they don't want them in the states.
Sounds like it was a well thought out plan.
oh my god indy!!! i nearly fell off my chair when i saw your post .......you finally are talking about policies and questioning what the answer is to them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT POINT!!
Dan0340: I consider myself an Independent, meaning I vote for the individual and not a party. I don't have an ax to grind. I voted for Bush the first time around.
But I gotta say that after these past 7 years the GOP deserve to be taken out of the game and benched. Now all this negativity you hear is little more than sour grapes. Many act like children who didnt get their way and are pouting. Hopefully they'll get over it and shut up. Some are so bitter they sound like they'd rather see the country fail than to be out of power. Nothing Obama does will ever be good enough.
It's not really about the good of the country. Its about lust for power!
DAN THE MAN!!.....YOU NEED TO VISIT HERE MORE OFTEN!!!
rocketqueen: And because he is not agreeing with you CONRAD, you call him a socialist???????????? gees your ready to judge and accuse anyone who dont agree with you.............
we could call you a fascist but lets not go down to your levels
venere08: Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this!
And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.
STRAIGHT UP HONESTY ISNT WANTED BY SOME ON THESE FORUMS VENERE...
IF PEOPLE WANT TO THINK INDEPENDENTLY, THE GET LABELLED SOCIALIST
THE ONLY REPUB WHO I HAVE COME ACROSS WHO IS STRAIGHT UP AND HONEST IS WHATUWISH4
And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.
Thanks venere
It seems to me that anyone who really is objective can see it. The more they whine and exagerate the more they strengthen my view. They've taken their defeat personally and are too proud to stand down and let the country heal. It's the same kind of pride that makes then say they'd go to war again even if they knew then what they know now. How can you trust someone who's too proud to admit to making a mistake like that?
Hey, how did you like that budget they wheeled out in front of the camera - with no numbers inside?
Dan0340: Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this!
And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.
Thanks venere
It seems to me that anyone who really is objective can see it. The more they whine and exagerate the more they strengthen my view. They've taken their defeat personally and are too proud to stand down and let the country heal. It's the same kind of pride that makes then say they'd go to war again even if they knew then what they know now. How can you trust someone who's too proud to admit to making a mistake like that?
Hey, how did you like that budget they wheeled out in front of the camera - with no numbers inside?
You speak every well, but how in the hell does someone define objective. Objective is an abstract word. I'm sure Dude thinks he's objective?
Indyfella: You speak every well, but how in the hell does someone define objective. Objective is an abstract word. I'm sure Dude thinks he's objective?
i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?
zee1ander: i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?zee
Indyfella: You speak every well, but how in the hell does someone define objective. Objective is an abstract word. I'm sure Dude thinks he's objective?
dude knows he not objective.........he sez it all the time....
rocketqueen: well indy you could do with a little honesty and objectivity....if you don't think i am honest, so be it.......i have nothing i need to prove to you, oh holy one...........
Wooo Hooo Indy, you are catching up to Obama. You have been anointed.
It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.
So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.
So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.
You are correct on that one, but I have never been one to follow the party line.... I just vote with my heart..... wait.... I don't have one.
zee1ander: i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?
zee
hey if america stayed out of our business and cut all ties, and stood completely on their own, and not mine and put there spy bases in other countries (anyone ever heard of pine gap????... for those of you uninformed, it is classified as 'AMERICAN' land in the middle of AUSTRALIA) i'd be all for it zee........
but the reality is america has huge influence (culturally, financially etc etc) over the rest of the world, and you damn well know that............
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.
So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.
So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.
indy said before that he was 'objective' and didnt really follow party lines........like yeh , AS IF
but if you dare challenge his party, he calls you everything under the sun, but objective..........
zee1ander: You are correct on that one, but I have never been one to follow the party line.... I just vote with my heart..... wait.... I don't have one.
rocketqueen: hey if america stayed out of our business and cut all ties, and stood completely on their own, and not mine and put there spy bases in other countries (anyone ever heard of pine gap????... for those of you uninformed, it is classified as 'AMERICAN' land in the middle of AUSTRALIA) i'd be all for it zee........
but the reality is america has huge influence (culturally, financially etc etc) over the rest of the world, and you damn well know that............
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.
So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.
i will admit sometimes i havnt been as objective as what i would like to be, so i shouldnt stand in judgement, but when it comes impassioned pleas for free and populist elected presidential candidates, basic human rights yadda yadda yadda, it is sometimes hard not to get biased........BECAUSE IT IS SO OUTRAGEOUS
rocketqueen: i aint layin it on you....i'm laying it on the governments, both in aus and the US............
You then need to first choose a better government for your country... and you can't say that you are being outvoted... you just fail at selling your ideas to your people.... Like I failed at selling my ideas to my people. I need to work harder next time.... so, your problems are not my problem.
zee1ander: i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?
zee
AMEN!!
Good GOD it gets sickening! Thank you for saying what I mean!
zee1ander: You then need to first choose a better government for your country... and you can't say that you are being outvoted... you just fail at selling your ideas to your people.... Like I failed at selling my ideas to my people. I need to work harder next time.... so, your problems are not my problem.
zee
well i actually vote greens party, and they are becoming a bigger force to reckon with and have the 2 major parties running scared..
no wolves at your door zee, only puppy bloodhounds.......lol
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But I gotta say that after these past 7 years the GOP deserve to be taken out of the game and benched. Now all this negativity you hear is little more than sour grapes. Many act like children who didnt get their way and are pouting. Hopefully they'll get over it and shut up. Some are so bitter they sound like they'd rather see the country fail than to be out of power. Nothing Obama does will ever be good enough.
It's not really about the good of the country. Its about lust for power!
Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this!
And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.