How BAD is Obama as president? (776)

Apr 21, 2009 7:02 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Dan0340: I consider myself an Independent, meaning I vote for the individual and not a party. I don't have an ax to grind. I voted for Bush the first time around.

But I gotta say that after these past 7 years the GOP deserve to be taken out of the game and benched. Now all this negativity you hear is little more than sour grapes. Many act like children who didnt get their way and are pouting. Hopefully they'll get over it and shut up. Some are so bitter they sound like they'd rather see the country fail than to be out of power. Nothing Obama does will ever be good enough.

It's not really about the good of the country. Its about lust for power!


Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this! thumbs up

And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.

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Apr 21, 2009 7:20 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: So after Obama closes Gitmo, where does he store the prisoners? Congressional Dems say they don't want them in the states.

Sounds like it was a well thought out plan.



oh my god indy!!! i nearly fell off my chair when i saw your post
.......you finally are talking about policies and questioning what the answer is to them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT POINT!!
applause cheering
Apr 21, 2009 7:22 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Dan0340: I consider myself an Independent, meaning I vote for the individual and not a party. I don't have an ax to grind. I voted for Bush the first time around.

But I gotta say that after these past 7 years the GOP deserve to be taken out of the game and benched. Now all this negativity you hear is little more than sour grapes. Many act like children who didnt get their way and are pouting. Hopefully they'll get over it and shut up. Some are so bitter they sound like they'd rather see the country fail than to be out of power. Nothing Obama does will ever be good enough.

It's not really about the good of the country. Its about lust for power!


DAN THE MAN!!.....YOU NEED TO VISIT HERE MORE OFTEN!!!applause
Apr 21, 2009 7:25 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Conrad73: A Socialist is never Good for the USA!



And because he is not agreeing with you indy, you call him a socialist????????????



gees your ready to judge and accuse anyone who dont agree with you.............doh uh oh

we could call you a fascist but lets not go down to your levels
Apr 21, 2009 7:26 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
rocketqueen: And because he is not agreeing with you CONRAD, you call him a socialist????????????
gees your ready to judge and accuse anyone who dont agree with you.............

we could call you a fascist but lets not go down to your levels
Apr 21, 2009 7:30 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
venere08: Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this!

And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.


STRAIGHT UP HONESTY ISNT WANTED BY SOME ON THESE FORUMS VENERE...

IF PEOPLE WANT TO THINK INDEPENDENTLY, THE GET LABELLED SOCIALIST

THE ONLY REPUB WHO I HAVE COME ACROSS WHO IS STRAIGHT UP AND HONEST IS WHATUWISH4 sigh
Apr 21, 2009 8:04 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rocketqueen: STRAIGHT UP HONESTY ISNT WANTED BY SOME ON THESE FORUMS VENERE...
IF PEOPLE WANT TO THINK INDEPENDENTLY, THE GET LABELLED SOCIALIST

THE ONLY REPUB WHO I HAVE COME ACROSS WHO IS STRAIGHT UP AND HONEST IS WHATUWISH4


You hit that nail on the head. Now...start being honest.
Apr 21, 2009 8:12 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Dan0340
Dan0340Dan0340Wasilla, Alaska USA16 Threads 1 Polls 284 Posts
Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this!

And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.

Thanks venere

It seems to me that anyone who really is objective can see it. The more they whine and exagerate the more they strengthen my view. They've taken their defeat personally and are too proud to stand down and let the country heal. It's the same kind of pride that makes then say they'd go to war again even if they knew then what they know now. How can you trust someone who's too proud to admit to making a mistake like that?

Hey, how did you like that budget they wheeled out in front of the camera - with no numbers inside?
Apr 21, 2009 8:14 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Dan0340: Hi Dan, it's about time someone said this!

And it's so refreshing to read someone's opinion on this topic being worded both eloquently and unemotionally, and from a truly independent point of view.

Thanks venere

It seems to me that anyone who really is objective can see it. The more they whine and exagerate the more they strengthen my view. They've taken their defeat personally and are too proud to stand down and let the country heal. It's the same kind of pride that makes then say they'd go to war again even if they knew then what they know now. How can you trust someone who's too proud to admit to making a mistake like that?

Hey, how did you like that budget they wheeled out in front of the camera - with no numbers inside?



You speak every well, but how in the hell does someone define objective. Objective is an abstract word. I'm sure Dude thinks he's objective?
Apr 21, 2009 8:19 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Indyfella: You speak every well, but how in the hell does someone define objective. Objective is an abstract word. I'm sure Dude thinks he's objective?


i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?

zee
Apr 21, 2009 8:20 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
zee1ander: i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?zee


Give us 3 years...we'll be there. laugh
Apr 21, 2009 8:21 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Indyfella: Give us 3 years...we'll be there.


Yes but will they be a superpower or a 4th world country?

zee
Apr 21, 2009 8:22 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
zee1ander: Yes but will they be a superpower or a 4th world country?

zee


be objective professor
Apr 21, 2009 8:26 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: You hit that nail on the head. Now...start being honest.


well indy you could do with a little honesty and objectivity....


if you don't think i am honest, so be it.......i have nothing i need to prove to you, oh holy one...........cool
Apr 21, 2009 8:27 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Indyfella: You speak every well, but how in the hell does someone define objective. Objective is an abstract word. I'm sure Dude thinks he's objective?



dude knows he not objective.........he sez it all the time....

but you cant deny his heartfelt convictiondoh
Apr 21, 2009 8:28 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
rocketqueen: well indy you could do with a little honesty and objectivity....if you don't think i am honest, so be it.......i have nothing i need to prove to you, oh holy one...........


Wooo Hooo Indy, you are catching up to Obama. You have been anointed.

zee
Apr 21, 2009 8:28 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
Dan0340
Dan0340Dan0340Wasilla, Alaska USA16 Threads 1 Polls 284 Posts
It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.

So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.
Apr 21, 2009 8:31 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.

So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.


You are correct on that one, but I have never been one to follow the party line.... I just vote with my heart..... wait.... I don't have one.

zee
Apr 21, 2009 8:33 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?

zee



hey if america stayed out of our business and cut all ties, and stood completely on their own, and not mine and put there spy bases in other countries (anyone ever heard of pine gap????...
for those of you uninformed, it is classified as 'AMERICAN' land in the middle of AUSTRALIA) i'd be all for it zee........

but the reality is america has huge influence (culturally, financially etc etc) over the rest of the world, and you damn well know that............
Apr 21, 2009 8:35 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.

So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.




thumbs up wine
Apr 21, 2009 8:37 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.

So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.



indy said before that he was 'objective' and didnt really follow party lines........like yeh , AS IF

but if you dare challenge his party, he calls you everything under the sun, but objective..........
Apr 21, 2009 8:37 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: You are correct on that one, but I have never been one to follow the party line.... I just vote with my heart..... wait.... I don't have one.

zee


YOU DO.......i have seen it ya know!!!!!!teddybear
Apr 21, 2009 8:41 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
rocketqueen: hey if america stayed out of our business and cut all ties, and stood completely on their own, and not mine and put there spy bases in other countries (anyone ever heard of pine gap????...
for those of you uninformed, it is classified as 'AMERICAN' land in the middle of AUSTRALIA) i'd be all for it zee........

but the reality is america has huge influence (culturally, financially etc etc) over the rest of the world, and you damn well know that............


YOU WATCH INDY DISAPPEAR NOW........
Apr 21, 2009 8:45 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
Dan0340: It is easy to be objective if you value the truth more than a party line. As for myself, I voted for Bush and considered myself a Republican for most of my life. I dissagree with a lot of dem policies. But the last 7 years remind me of what Reagon said, he didnt leave his party, his party left him.

So when you challenge Objectivity I can assume you are a Republican who is to loyal to them.


i will admit sometimes i havnt been as objective as what i would like to be, so i shouldnt stand in judgement, but when it comes impassioned pleas for free and populist elected presidential candidates, basic human rights yadda yadda yadda, it is sometimes hard not to get biased........BECAUSE IT IS SO OUTRAGEOUSwine
Apr 21, 2009 8:51 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
rocketqueen: i aint layin it on you....i'm laying it on the governments, both in aus and the US............


You then need to first choose a better government for your country... and you can't say that you are being outvoted... you just fail at selling your ideas to your people.... Like I failed at selling my ideas to my people. I need to work harder next time.... so, your problems are not my problem.

zee
Apr 21, 2009 9:10 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
hmmm.... I have the feeling that the wolves waiting at the door are going to sit quietly until I go to bed and attack me throughout the night.

Good night all

Zee wave
Apr 21, 2009 9:11 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
NeWildflower
NeWildflowerNeWildflowerScottsbluff, Nebraska USA15 Threads 2 Polls 754 Posts
zee1ander: i am the objective person here.... I object to everyone not of the US telling us how to run the country..... if they were so smart wouldn't their country be the superpower and the US would be a 3rd world country?

zee



AMEN!!

Good GOD it gets sickening! Thank you for saying what I mean! grin
Apr 21, 2009 9:13 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
How BAD is Obama as president?



It wouldn't matter WHO was president right now.

The ONLY agenda allowed is that of the globalist elite.
Any president who doesn't march to their drum would not last 2 weeks.

They have invested too much time and effort and money into their push for world domination to let any mere president get in their way.
Apr 21, 2009 9:17 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
zee1ander: You then need to first choose a better government for your country... and you can't say that you are being outvoted... you just fail at selling your ideas to your people.... Like I failed at selling my ideas to my people. I need to work harder next time.... so, your problems are not my problem.

zee



well i actually vote greens party, and they are becoming a bigger force to reckon with and have the 2 major parties running scared..

no wolves at your door zee, only puppy bloodhounds.......lol
laugh

sweet dreamssleep daydream lips
Apr 21, 2009 9:18 PM CST How BAD is Obama as president?
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
RayfromUSA: How BAD is Obama as president?



It wouldn't matter WHO was president right now.

The ONLY agenda allowed is that of the globalist elite.
Any president who doesn't march to their drum would not last 2 weeks.

They have invested too much time and effort and money into their push for world domination to let any mere president get in their way.



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