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I'm from Canada. Social Welfare is present. Yes, I think it is needed. It certainly is a crutch. Once on the system it is very hard to let that safety net go. Single moms: a variety of reasons why a mom is single, from the typical sterotype to support system failed them. (husband died, divorce). If this mom has lack of education, or low paying job..for whatever reason..and needs enough money to cloth, feed and shelter children I see nothing wrong with keeping children from being homeless.
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We are considered as third world country,developing country but everyone has free medical care.....Its bit selfish if you dont help to others.
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K_rational: * They cannot use public schools, roads or any other government run or maintained facility
It is not an option to pay one's taxes. There are plenty of people who do use private school systems. Roads are addressed.
And so on.
Indeed.
Alternatively, they could pay user fees if they want to, such as $2000 per year for roads, 5% of their principal annually for the FDIC, $5000 for police and fire departments (hey, it's not just response but prevention too) and other fees for other services.
If they want to? As if it was in fact something that simple? I'm sure a lot of people might, if they had the chance.
If they don't want government involvement in their lives, they should live it or pay cash for the services they want.
It is not an option to pay one's taxes. There are plenty of people who do use private school systems. Roads are addressed.
And so on.
Indeed.
Alternatively, they could pay user fees if they want to, such as $2000 per year for roads, 5% of their principal annually for the FDIC, $5000 for police and fire departments (hey, it's not just response but prevention too) and other fees for other services.
If they want to? As if it was in fact something that simple? I'm sure a lot of people might, if they had the chance.
If they don't want government involvement in their lives, they should live it or pay cash for the services they want.
See above.
Your commentary confuses the nature of other public services with the topic, which are not at all similar.
You isolate Americans specifically to insult them.
You suggest they rectify their beliefs by participating in options and methods which are not available.
You suggest that all people get benefits from programs that are optional.
Get real.
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All the word Socialism actually means is that people act collectively in some sense to achieve a common goal. To look at the development of mankind from hunter gatherers to what we see today, shows a steady increase towards Socialism as people through the ages have had to learn to conform to a society(thus learning to work together) at least in some sense or another to achieve technological advancement, to achieve safety and to improve living conditions.
The concept of civilization itself is socialist. A townsmen by his own mindset has to be considerably more Socialist than a peasant who survives off the land.
However, Socialism has nothing more to do with the left wing than it does with the right. Only today, through the herds remarkable aptitude for unwittingly thinking and doing exactly as it is told, do we see Socialism abandoned to the weakness and decadence of todays romantics and Liberal left.
Law and order, the army, healthcare, education, disability benefit, transport and road network are all elements of Socialism I believe in.
Unemployment benefit, the existence of independent trade unions, and the state support of certain private enterprises is socialism I don't believe in... along with many of the cultural changes that are made(falsely!)in the name of Socialism.
The concept of civilization itself is socialist. A townsmen by his own mindset has to be considerably more Socialist than a peasant who survives off the land.
However, Socialism has nothing more to do with the left wing than it does with the right. Only today, through the herds remarkable aptitude for unwittingly thinking and doing exactly as it is told, do we see Socialism abandoned to the weakness and decadence of todays romantics and Liberal left.
Law and order, the army, healthcare, education, disability benefit, transport and road network are all elements of Socialism I believe in.
Unemployment benefit, the existence of independent trade unions, and the state support of certain private enterprises is socialism I don't believe in... along with many of the cultural changes that are made(falsely!)in the name of Socialism.
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TrueBlue1986: All the word Socialism actually means is that people act collectively in some sense to achieve a common goal. To look at the development of mankind from hunter gatherers to what we see today, shows a steady increase towards Socialism as people through the ages have had to learn to conform to a society(thus learning to work together) at least in some sense or another to achieve technological advancement, to achieve safety and to improve living conditions.
The concept of civilization itself is socialist. A townsmen by his own mindset has to be considerably more Socialist than a peasant who survives off the land.
However, Socialism has nothing more to do with the left wing than it does with the right. Only today, through the herds remarkable aptitude for unwittingly thinking and doing exactly as it is told, do we see Socialism abandoned to the weakness and decadence of todays romantics and Liberal left.
Law and order, the army, healthcare, education, disability benefit, transport and road network are all elements of Socialism I believe in.
Unemployment benefit, the existence of independent trade unions, and the state support of certain private enterprises is socialism I don't believe in... along with many of the cultural changes that are made(falsely!)in the name of Socialism.
I think you had better dust off your Dictionary,and find the definition for it!The concept of civilization itself is socialist. A townsmen by his own mindset has to be considerably more Socialist than a peasant who survives off the land.
However, Socialism has nothing more to do with the left wing than it does with the right. Only today, through the herds remarkable aptitude for unwittingly thinking and doing exactly as it is told, do we see Socialism abandoned to the weakness and decadence of todays romantics and Liberal left.
Law and order, the army, healthcare, education, disability benefit, transport and road network are all elements of Socialism I believe in.
Unemployment benefit, the existence of independent trade unions, and the state support of certain private enterprises is socialism I don't believe in... along with many of the cultural changes that are made(falsely!)in the name of Socialism.
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Conrad73: I think you had better dust off your Dictionary,and find the definition for it!
You are simply the worse kind of quasi intellectual.
Dictionaries are not written within the context of history they are written within the context of today.
Both Fascism and Communism are Socialist extremes(that epitomises the point i'm making).
But they are opposite in so many ways, there is no one kind of Socialism, but today Socialism is associated almost exclusively with left wing ideas, and that is a complete falacy.
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TrueBlue1986: You are simply the worse kind of quasi intellectual.
Dictionaries are not written within the context of history they are written within the context of today.
Both Fascism and Communism are Socialist extremes(that epitomises the point i'm making).
But they are opposite in so many ways, there is no one kind of Socialism, but today Socialism is associated almost exclusively with left wing ideas, and that is a complete falacy.
and of course you are a true Intellectual,that believes hi own individual Definition ought to be the basis of Discussion,not the generally accepted Definitions!Dictionaries are not written within the context of history they are written within the context of today.
Both Fascism and Communism are Socialist extremes(that epitomises the point i'm making).
But they are opposite in so many ways, there is no one kind of Socialism, but today Socialism is associated almost exclusively with left wing ideas, and that is a complete falacy.
What kind of a Discussion would that be?
Besides,I did not give you a Def,but merely pointed out where you could find it,since you were so far off beam!
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TrueBlue1986: You are simply the worse kind of quasi intellectual.
Dictionaries are not written within the context of history they are written within the context of today.
Both Fascism and Communism are Socialist extremes(that epitomises the point i'm making).
But they are opposite in so many ways, there is no one kind of Socialism, but today Socialism is associated almost exclusively with left wing ideas, and that is a complete falacy.
Dictionaries are not written within the context of history they are written within the context of today.
Both Fascism and Communism are Socialist extremes(that epitomises the point i'm making).
But they are opposite in so many ways, there is no one kind of Socialism, but today Socialism is associated almost exclusively with left wing ideas, and that is a complete falacy.
Some only see & believe what they "choose" to see & believe. It's regardless what common sense dictates.
Leave them to their own demise.
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Do we, as a society let the victims of Wall Street's mismanagement go homeless and rely on the charity of the churches?
Do we refuse healthcare, food and shelter to the children of single mothers?
Do we let pensioners die because they cannot afford adequate health care or prescriptions?
If we adopt this way of thinking, what kind of world will we create?
Do we refuse healthcare, food and shelter to the children of single mothers?
Do we let pensioners die because they cannot afford adequate health care or prescriptions?
If we adopt this way of thinking, what kind of world will we create?
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Blues63: Do we, as a society let the victims of Wall Street's mismanagement go homeless and rely on the charity of the churches?
Do we refuse healthcare, food and shelter to the children of single mothers?
Do we let pensioners die because they cannot afford adequate health care or prescriptions?
If we adopt this way of thinking, what kind of world will we create?
Do we refuse healthcare, food and shelter to the children of single mothers?
Do we let pensioners die because they cannot afford adequate health care or prescriptions?
If we adopt this way of thinking, what kind of world will we create?
YES, many in this country would step over those unfortunate souls in the streets of this country - if it meant they didn't have to give to them .............
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markizamkd25: We are considered as third world country,developing country but everyone has free medical care.....Its bit selfish if you dont help to others.
yes but its socialist bad and wrong to help others marki
because its only ghetto dwellers and single moms that need help
tell that to the lawyer i know that now caddies for a living
or the corp admins who are janitors
or the middle income and even 5 figure incomers
who have no house and/or no job-
no no marki we cannot share with them- we just each care for ourselves since that has worked so well thus far
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TrueBlue1986: You are simply the worse kind of quasi intellectual.
Dictionaries are not written within the context of history they are written within the context of today.
Both Fascism and Communism are Socialist extremes(that epitomises the point i'm making).
But they are opposite in so many ways, there is no one kind of Socialism, but today Socialism is associated almost exclusively with left wing ideas, and that is a complete falacy.
Dictionaries are not written within the context of history they are written within the context of today.
Both Fascism and Communism are Socialist extremes(that epitomises the point i'm making).
But they are opposite in so many ways, there is no one kind of Socialism, but today Socialism is associated almost exclusively with left wing ideas, and that is a complete falacy.
while conrad can never squelch my inerrant and inherent fondness for him
you are so right in what you say here
there is no one socialism and universal does not mean socialist
so ridiculous
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The churches have charity for people...they will help families...one of the people attending the chruch will hire him into their country SHOULD SAY COMPANY...ALL PROBLEMS SOLVED...WITHOUT USING GOVERNMENT TAXPAYER MONEY..NO ONE WAS FORCED TO GIVE UP THEIR MONEY....INSTEAD..THE MONEY WAS FREELY GIVEN IN THE TITHES TO THE CHURCH.
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Musicianfriend commented;
Who told you those lies and why would you ever believe such nonsense????
Anyone who has ever read the writings of our Founding Fathers would know that they were not in favor of Religion.
It amuses me to see people who are unaware of the fact that our Founding Fathers were NOT Christians but Unitarians and Deists. If indeed our Framers had aimed to found a Christian republic, it would seem they would make this clear in the Constitution. However, nowhere in the Constitution do we have a single mention of Christianity, God, or Jesus.
The 1st Amendment's says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" and in Article VI, Section 3, ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Thomas Jefferson interpreted the 1st Amendment in his famous letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in January 1, 1802: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State." Thomas Jefferson is also famous for rewriting the Bible and taking out all of the references to the Supernatural leaving the jesus character as a mere mortal but a wise teacher. Jefferson is also famous for his quote; Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone upon man.
If you look at Article 6 Section 2 of the US constitution it states that all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby. The Treaty of Tripoli, passed unanimously by the U.S. Senate and House in 1797, read in part: "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
These uninformed whiners shouting SOCIALISM!!! Don't even know that the definition of a socialist program is a program funded and run by the people. I can't understand why people are too lazy to even bother to check on things before they go on a public forum and make themselves look like uneducated fools.
In response to:
This is why I liked America better when the godless were not in charge...and the country was Full of God...all mankind enjoying his life...his freedom..his God Given Freedom..like our Founding Fathers intendedd for us..
Whats going on today..is FAR FROM THE CONSTITUTION..AND THE INTENTIONS OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS...
This is why I liked America better when the godless were not in charge...and the country was Full of God...all mankind enjoying his life...his freedom..his God Given Freedom..like our Founding Fathers intendedd for us..
Whats going on today..is FAR FROM THE CONSTITUTION..AND THE INTENTIONS OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS...
Who told you those lies and why would you ever believe such nonsense????
Anyone who has ever read the writings of our Founding Fathers would know that they were not in favor of Religion.
It amuses me to see people who are unaware of the fact that our Founding Fathers were NOT Christians but Unitarians and Deists. If indeed our Framers had aimed to found a Christian republic, it would seem they would make this clear in the Constitution. However, nowhere in the Constitution do we have a single mention of Christianity, God, or Jesus.
The 1st Amendment's says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" and in Article VI, Section 3, ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Thomas Jefferson interpreted the 1st Amendment in his famous letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in January 1, 1802: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State." Thomas Jefferson is also famous for rewriting the Bible and taking out all of the references to the Supernatural leaving the jesus character as a mere mortal but a wise teacher. Jefferson is also famous for his quote; Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone upon man.
If you look at Article 6 Section 2 of the US constitution it states that all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby. The Treaty of Tripoli, passed unanimously by the U.S. Senate and House in 1797, read in part: "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
These uninformed whiners shouting SOCIALISM!!! Don't even know that the definition of a socialist program is a program funded and run by the people. I can't understand why people are too lazy to even bother to check on things before they go on a public forum and make themselves look like uneducated fools.
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well....there is someone here more passionate, way out,
and screwball
with ridiculously long redundant posts
and screwball
with ridiculously long redundant posts
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mindfful: well....there is someone here more passionate, way out,
and screwball
with ridiculously long redundant posts
and screwball
with ridiculously long redundant posts
more than me i meant
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The health care initiative is a step towards socialism.
This move by the President is the best he can do with a bad situation. Democracy, as has been proven throughout history, is a finite political system. It runs a bell shaped curve lasting usually about two hundred years. All the signs are there. Monopolies, like Walmart , Home Depot, et al
Separation of classes, erosion of the middle class. the rich get richer the poor poorer.
Nepotisim. The choice jobs handed down generation after generation.
As in Rome and France, America will attempt to shift to more Social Programs. Typically this will be a struggle between the "haves" and the have nots! You see money truly is the root of all evil. Revolt is a natural offshoot of this delema.
This move by the President is the best he can do with a bad situation. Democracy, as has been proven throughout history, is a finite political system. It runs a bell shaped curve lasting usually about two hundred years. All the signs are there. Monopolies, like Walmart , Home Depot, et al
Separation of classes, erosion of the middle class. the rich get richer the poor poorer.
Nepotisim. The choice jobs handed down generation after generation.
As in Rome and France, America will attempt to shift to more Social Programs. Typically this will be a struggle between the "haves" and the have nots! You see money truly is the root of all evil. Revolt is a natural offshoot of this delema.
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actually the quote goes
the love of money is the root of all evil
so yeah- if thats your priority, your comfort, where your sense of security stems from then the evil comes in in the form of the things you will be willing to do to get it and keep it.
fear based
so if we have reached the end of the bell curve i guess we have had our bell rung then?
in boxing that is a term used when a guy goes out TKO
the love of money is the root of all evil
so yeah- if thats your priority, your comfort, where your sense of security stems from then the evil comes in in the form of the things you will be willing to do to get it and keep it.
fear based
so if we have reached the end of the bell curve i guess we have had our bell rung then?
in boxing that is a term used when a guy goes out TKO
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The first mistake most people make is the mistaken idea that the United States is a Democracy. IT IS NOT, it is a Republic. If you do a bit of research you will learn the difference. Democracy has many faults including the fact that "Majority rules". That in itself is not terrible but it also allows the majority to vote to kill the minority. Democracy also allows for a man to be elected President for life. A Republic recognizes that a Man can not be trusted to act in a manner that would not be corrupt, therefore only one term is allowed. There are many other differences. Check it out if you care that much about the United States of America.
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The Constitution of the United States guarantees the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. There is no Guarantee of good health. Everyone desires good health, but throughout the early history of this great country the poor and unfortunate were taken care of by their friends and neighbors via the Churches. Doctors provided services to the poor without pay. Each town had food and clothes closets at Churches, and citizens and travelers who had fallen on hard times would find help in the name of Love for their fellow man. That idea, by the way, is a Christian principle. Only in later years did the town, City or state take this over. It was always a local action where people knew each other and cared.
Americans have a long history of volunteering to help others even when there was little for themselves.
Sure, Health Care is in bad shape right now but a Health care program could have been a straight forward bill of a few hundred pages instead of a mountain of pages where there are hidden agendas and special favors and it makes no difference which party is in power. Our nation's Capital is a toilet that needs a good cleaning out. I can only hope it starts in November.
Americans have a long history of volunteering to help others even when there was little for themselves.
Sure, Health Care is in bad shape right now but a Health care program could have been a straight forward bill of a few hundred pages instead of a mountain of pages where there are hidden agendas and special favors and it makes no difference which party is in power. Our nation's Capital is a toilet that needs a good cleaning out. I can only hope it starts in November.
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Barrellofart: I understand the health bill has just passed.
I am not responsible for my fellow citizen. They live their own life, and are responsible for their own actions.
Why should I have to support someone other than myself?
And no, it's not a greedy idea. I'm not saying, oh, look, that person is capable of supporting theirself. All I'm saying is that, look, you're responsible for the consequences of your own actions, no me. I should not have to pay for your mistakes.And that's what brings us here:
How accepting of the socialist ideal are you? ?
I am not responsible for my fellow citizen. They live their own life, and are responsible for their own actions.
Why should I have to support someone other than myself?
And no, it's not a greedy idea. I'm not saying, oh, look, that person is capable of supporting theirself. All I'm saying is that, look, you're responsible for the consequences of your own actions, no me. I should not have to pay for your mistakes.And that's what brings us here:
How accepting of the socialist ideal are you? ?
Some of us can easily step over the homeless in the streets and go straight to lunch at the diner without any compassion..
How sad those are who think only of themselves and their perspective........
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jvaski: Some of us can easily step over the homeless in the streets and go straight to lunch at the diner without any compassion..
How sad those are who think only of themselves and their perspective........
How sad those are who think only of themselves and their perspective........
I totally agree Jvaski, as there for the grace of god go any one of us
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rickjc25: Musicianfriend commented; Who told you those lies and why would you ever believe such nonsense????
Anyone who has ever read the writings of our Founding Fathers would know that they were not in favor of Religion.
It amuses me to see people who are unaware of the fact that our Founding Fathers were NOT Christians but Unitarians and Deists. If indeed our Framers had aimed to found a Christian republic, it would seem they would make this clear in the Constitution. However, nowhere in the Constitution do we have a single mention of Christianity, God, or Jesus.
The 1st Amendment's says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" and in Article VI, Section 3, ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Thomas Jefferson interpreted the 1st Amendment in his famous letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in January 1, 1802: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State." Thomas Jefferson is also famous for rewriting the Bible and taking out all of the references to the Supernatural leaving the jesus character as a mere mortal but a wise teacher. Jefferson is also famous for his quote; Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone upon man. If you look at Article 6 Section 2 of the US constitution it states that all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby. The Treaty of Tripoli, passed unanimously by the U.S. Senate and House in 1797, read in part: "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
These uninformed whiners shouting SOCIALISM!!! Don't even know that the definition of a socialist program is a program funded and run by the people. I can't understand why people are too lazy to even bother to check on things before they go on a public forum and make themselves look like uneducated fools.
Anyone who has ever read the writings of our Founding Fathers would know that they were not in favor of Religion.
It amuses me to see people who are unaware of the fact that our Founding Fathers were NOT Christians but Unitarians and Deists. If indeed our Framers had aimed to found a Christian republic, it would seem they would make this clear in the Constitution. However, nowhere in the Constitution do we have a single mention of Christianity, God, or Jesus.
The 1st Amendment's says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" and in Article VI, Section 3, ". . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Thomas Jefferson interpreted the 1st Amendment in his famous letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in January 1, 1802: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State." Thomas Jefferson is also famous for rewriting the Bible and taking out all of the references to the Supernatural leaving the jesus character as a mere mortal but a wise teacher. Jefferson is also famous for his quote; Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone upon man. If you look at Article 6 Section 2 of the US constitution it states that all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby. The Treaty of Tripoli, passed unanimously by the U.S. Senate and House in 1797, read in part: "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
These uninformed whiners shouting SOCIALISM!!! Don't even know that the definition of a socialist program is a program funded and run by the people. I can't understand why people are too lazy to even bother to check on things before they go on a public forum and make themselves look like uneducated fools.
If we are so offensive to you , then you need to live in Iran , Iraq, China , Korea where your views will be mainstream.
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jvaski: Some of us can easily step over the homeless in the streets and go straight to lunch at the diner without any compassion..
How sad those are who think only of themselves and their perspective........
How sad those are who think only of themselves and their perspective........
Sounds like a hypocrite to me. If you care about those homeless people then you need to go where they are and give themm all you have and to not judge others for doing what they do.
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I am against welfare. I know where there are cicumstances where it would be fine to help someone out but I know many people work the system to keep the money coming in while living the life of Riley. I say that when you go on welfare and are found to qualify for it then it is O.K. with me but here are some rules that should be adhered to:
* The man of the house will not have to go, and the couple should be married but the man will have to show that he is actively looking to find a decent job to support his family.
* The family shall only live in the low rent districts, have only one car, one television set, no cell phone, no computer, no fancy furniture , etc... no fancy stereo equipment unless these things were in their posession prior to signing up for welfare.
*You only get welfare in the state in which you were living in say 5 years before signing up for welfare.
*There shall be only one child and for every child born after going on welfare , the payments are then decreased a certain amount.
*criminal activity should also diminish the size of the monthly checks, no beer whiskey or wine or drugs.
I believe that this should be a start. Call me hateful if you want.
* The man of the house will not have to go, and the couple should be married but the man will have to show that he is actively looking to find a decent job to support his family.
* The family shall only live in the low rent districts, have only one car, one television set, no cell phone, no computer, no fancy furniture , etc... no fancy stereo equipment unless these things were in their posession prior to signing up for welfare.
*You only get welfare in the state in which you were living in say 5 years before signing up for welfare.
*There shall be only one child and for every child born after going on welfare , the payments are then decreased a certain amount.
*criminal activity should also diminish the size of the monthly checks, no beer whiskey or wine or drugs.
I believe that this should be a start. Call me hateful if you want.
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I am against welfare. I know where there are cicumstances where it would be fine to help someone out but I know many people work the system to keep the money coming in while living the life of Riley. I say that when you go on welfare and are found to qualify for it then it is O.K. with me but here are some rules that should be adhered to:
* The man of the house will not have to go, and the couple should be married but the man will have to show that he is actively looking to find a decent job to support his family.
* The family shall only live in the low rent districts, have only one car, one television set, no cell phone, no computer, no fancy furniture , etc... no fancy stereo equipment unless these things were in their posession prior to signing up for welfare.
*You only get welfare in the state in which you were living in say 5 years before signing up for welfare.
*There shall be only one child and for every child born after going on welfare , the payments are then decreased a certain amount.
*criminal activity should also diminish the size of the monthly checks, no beer whiskey or wine or drugs.
I believe that this should be a start. Call me hateful if you want.
* The man of the house will not have to go, and the couple should be married but the man will have to show that he is actively looking to find a decent job to support his family.
* The family shall only live in the low rent districts, have only one car, one television set, no cell phone, no computer, no fancy furniture , etc... no fancy stereo equipment unless these things were in their posession prior to signing up for welfare.
*You only get welfare in the state in which you were living in say 5 years before signing up for welfare.
*There shall be only one child and for every child born after going on welfare , the payments are then decreased a certain amount.
*criminal activity should also diminish the size of the monthly checks, no beer whiskey or wine or drugs.
I believe that this should be a start. Call me hateful if you want.
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Social Welfare(Vote Below)
Without political commentary, I'm just wondering what everyone's view is about such a socialist matter.
The idea presented here is: I am not responsible for my fellow citizen. They live their own life, and are responsible for their own actions.
I posted quite clearly in a 'Single mothers' thread that I while I DO support the concept of a single unmarried mother having as many children as she might afford, I do not accept the idea of state supported funding for them.
This, and the passing of the health care bill go back to that same idea: Why should I have to support someone other than myself?
And no, it's not a greedy idea. I'm not saying, oh, look, that person is capable of supporting theirself. All I'm saying is that, look, you're responsible for the consequences of your own actions, no me. I should not have to pay for your mistakes.
And that's what brings us here:
How accepting of the socialist ideal are you? Should you have to pay to support your fellow citizen? What if it was something avoidable by choice (pregnancy)? What if it was something unavoidable (birth/genetic defect)? What if it was a drug addict? Does initial error equate to repercussion of addiction?