Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America? (150)

Mar 24, 2010 7:09 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Canada and Britian succesfull military operations in WWII.

Chased all over North Africa...not once but twice. Surrouned at Torbuk not once but twice. The last time losing the key port city. Greece and Malta campaigns were you got of dodge so fast the locals are still trying to collect the hotel bills. Dieppe were 10000 brave Canadian made deseperat landing and stand against overwhelming odds. Without any relief force or even a Naval fleet assembled to get them off the beach.

A Bridge to Far. Were the British tankers and thier commanders sat had tea while the British para in Armhem were getting mauled. In ability to move during the Battle of the Bulge. While the US force took both the spear heads of the attack and then held the key city of Bastogne. And then Patton crushed the German southern flank to kill the attack.

Not to mention the all time English WWII fiasco at Signapore....where all the big guns were pointed in the wrong direction. How many Battleship did you lose then......2 I think. What was it 150,000 surrendering at Signapore?

Then there is the Bizmark. My my a small flottia of three ships and then a wounded and alone German Battleship Bizmark on the high seas. Ever think to divert the tran atlantic convoys away from them? It is a big ocean. How many cargo ships did either the Bizmark or the two other sink. None. Zero. But no the hunt for the Bizmark took the entire British Navy. Consumed them for a month. Then it take a lucky torpedo strike to foul its rudder or it was home free to France. At a French port to this time and again during the war. Really good stuff there.

Fellows being honest here....it took everything that 'all' allied the countries had to win WWII. "Equal partners in the war" was one of the saying of the day during WWII. They won it together..showed that a international military coalition can be successful to beat back those that would destroy freedom and life. Everyone there should be saluted.

Last story I got. A American 2nd Lt landing in Normady during D-Day. His mission. Find a high point and mark German targets for the off shore Naval guns. He finds a 3 story French farm house with the elderly couple still living there. He approaches the French farmers..says this..."Sir, I want to use your house as forward observation (FO) for directly fire on the Germans. Likely when they learn that FO is here. They will try to destroy your house with artillery fire."

The Frenchman did not hesitate. He says. "For four years the Germans simply took what they wanted. Never asking. If you want this house to free France. Take it. It is yours. We can build another."

All of fathers screwed up in WWII (Americans included). But was men like that Frenchman that won it.
Mar 24, 2010 7:09 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Take your issue on this site Abram :http://vetsforobama.org/author/admin/

Dude, if I were to deny America the truth I would gladly go to a pro Obama site, and stroke his genius, but I'd first need to find it.rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 24, 2010 7:13 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
Veritaas: Musicianfriend, just a question for you? Do you know the other countries that supported the USA when they invaded Iraq? Who is supporting the USA in Afghanistan?


Yes....so what?
Mar 24, 2010 7:15 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
elsson: FFS V did you not watch saving private ryan??


Yes I sure did, my point being that European forces supported America.thumbs up
Mar 24, 2010 7:17 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
Musicianfriend: Yes....so what?


Think about it. Now I am talking outside the box here, not locked up inside it.
Mar 24, 2010 7:19 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Veritaas: Thankyou, and many more too. Precisely what MNF-I means (Multi National Force-Iraq).


yup thumbs up
Mar 24, 2010 7:19 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Abram: Dude, if I were to deny America the truth I would gladly go to a pro Obama site, and stroke his genius, but I'd first need to find it.
Deny America the Truth ... Yeah Yeah... Repube heads have been feeding of your kind of personality for too long Abram. Keep staying on the dark side and Never Ever change roll eyes tongue
Mar 24, 2010 7:22 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
elsson
elssonelssonLondon, Greater London, England UK24 Threads 1,864 Posts
Veritaas: Yes I sure did, my point being that European forces supported America.


No watch private ryan again the Americans landed in Normandy with nobody else. Gosh I thought you knew about history as written in hollywood librarys.
Mar 24, 2010 7:23 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
elsson: FFS V did you not watch saving private ryan??


Elsson....Saving Private Ryan.......100% fiction.....I got the DvD sitting in front of me.

There was a American family that sent four sons to war. All in the Navy. When several of them were killed. The last was relieved of duty and took MATS (Military Air Transport) home. Sorry Elsson, you just cannot believe everything Speilberg and Hanks do.laugh
Mar 24, 2010 7:25 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
elsson
elssonelssonLondon, Greater London, England UK24 Threads 1,864 Posts
I3estman4u: yup


WW11 the canadians were there with the Brits straight away to be honest and it is in our literature and we would never have won Battle of Britain without Canadian and Polish pilots.
Mar 24, 2010 7:26 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
elsson
elssonelssonLondon, Greater London, England UK24 Threads 1,864 Posts
ttom500: Elsson....Saving Private Ryan.......100% fiction.....I got the DvD sitting in front of me.

There was a American family that sent four sons to war. All in the Navy. When several of them were killed. The last was relieved of duty and took MATS (Military Air Transport) home. Sorry Elsson, you just cannot believe everything Speilberg and Hanks do.


Tom, I think we both know we were talking tongue in cheekthumbs up
Mar 24, 2010 7:27 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
elsson: No watch private ryan again the Americans landed in Normandy with nobody else. Gosh I thought you knew about history as written in hollywood librarys.


rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up
Mar 24, 2010 7:28 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
elsson: Tom, I think we both know we were talking tongue in cheek


I always got my tongue in my cheek till I take a bite of good old American Chesseburger. Then I got a bleeding tongue.laugh
Mar 24, 2010 7:28 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
StressFree: Stop exaggerating silly.

This just in

I'm an American citizen. Born and raised in the SF Bay Area.

Also, you don't have a clue. The old America failed the people. Deal with the new America!


Your sadly mistaken..

The old America is what made us great..

Its the new America this last 60 years that has destroyed 200 years of hard work...and wasted `the blood of patriots..by going against the constitution..and the American people..

If you dont understand this...please re educate yourself..youve been lied to. through our gov. controlled propaganda filled school system ran by the NEA communist union and others..

Your sadly mistaken...parroting the lies of the liberal commies in our gov right now..youve been duped..sorry..but its true...

what the liberal leftists tell you is a pack of lies..
Mar 24, 2010 7:29 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
Veritaas: Yes I sure did, my point being that European forces supported America.


So what I say again..whats that got to do with anything Ive said?
Mar 24, 2010 7:31 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Deny America the Truth ... Yeah Yeah... Repube heads have been feeding of your kind of personality for too long Abram. Keep staying on the dark side and Never Ever change
America being a REPUBLIC, and myself, every other American, being a REPUBLICAN living in the American REPUBLIC, I can't argue with you. I learned, was fed, the truth of republican principles in history class, and of my life has an American. An American freely taking opportunities offered, of my choice, while not limiting the ability of others to do the same. Enter the progressive movement, and squirreling away opportunities provided, but only according to the rules, and regulations they wrote to insure their prosperity. I know their lie, because I personally worked with, and saw the process in three different states. When they start getting into the illegal alien amnesty I have a boat load of documents, and information about the immigration process, businesses that employ illegals, and property owners who house them.
Mar 24, 2010 7:33 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
I3estman4u: The Canadians and Brit's did more against the German's than the American's....except in American history books


Really? Now Im sad that we lost our relatives to help such an ungreatful people..

WE'll have to remember this next time help is needed...

My relative would have prefered to keep their lives and limbs..

Sorry we bothered you..

Oh yea..Isnt it you that lives in a socialist country...where the gov controls everything you think do say read watch are allowed to own?.arent you a part of the global community that is trying to foster hate against the Americans?

Perhaps its your history books that have been written incorrectly....So now what?
Mar 24, 2010 7:34 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
Musicianfriend: So what I say again..whats that got to do with anything Ive said?


Like I said, think outside the box and therein will lie your answer to the question you asked "what's that got to with anything I've said?".
Mar 24, 2010 7:34 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
oldfoxyguy
oldfoxyguyoldfoxyguyLarnaca, Cyprus12 Threads 5 Polls 513 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Fabulous letter... plain and simple and still tells it all


Hello Dude, are you still on Obama's payroll? or is your job over now. tongue
Mar 24, 2010 7:35 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
If it's so great, why did Obama exempt himself, Pelosi, and some other libs from it?
Mar 24, 2010 7:35 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
Musicianfriend:
Oh yea..Isnt it you that lives in a socialist country...where the gov controls everything you think do say read watch are allowed to own?.arent you a part of the global community that is trying to foster hate against the Americans?

Perhaps its your history books that have been written incorrectly....So now what?


That is NOT what Socialism is! doh
Mar 24, 2010 7:37 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Musicianfriend: Really? Now Im sad that we lost our relatives to help such an ungreatful people..

WE'll have to remember this next time help is needed...

My relative would have prefered to keep their lives and limbs..

Sorry we bothered you..

Oh yea..Isnt it you that lives in a socialist country...where the gov controls everything you think do say read watch are allowed to own?.arent you a part of the global community that is trying to foster hate against the Americans?

Perhaps its your history books that have been written incorrectly....So now what?


Please stop the dribble. You did help us. We weren't there helping you but trying to win the war long before you guys stepped in.
Mar 24, 2010 7:38 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
Musicianfriend: Really? Now Im sad that we lost our relatives to help such an ungreatful people..

WE'll have to remember this next time help is needed...

My relative would have prefered to keep their lives and limbs..

Sorry we bothered you..

Oh yea..Isnt it you that lives in a socialist country...where the gov controls everything you think do say read watch are allowed to own?.arent you a part of the global community that is trying to foster hate against the Americans?

Perhaps its your history books that have been written incorrectly....So now what?


Stateside sure have one hell of alot of European blood in them, and the rest, having a legal rights to live there. But like any other country in the world such as the UK we have thousands of illegal immigrants too. So this is not exclusive to America.
Mar 24, 2010 7:41 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
Musicianfriend: Really? Now Im sad that we lost our relatives to help such an ungreatful people..

WE'll have to remember this next time help is needed...

My relative would have prefered to keep their lives and limbs..

Sorry we bothered you..

Oh yea..Isnt it you that lives in a socialist country...where the gov controls everything you think do say read watch are allowed to own?.arent you a part of the global community that is trying to foster hate against the Americans?

Perhaps its your history books that have been written incorrectly....So now what?


No, I hate all the attitudes from dumba** people, like you. No matter where they come from. And no one needs to really convince any country to not like America. America gives ample reasons to on their own...has for years. I thank you for throwing credit our way, but I need to not accept credit for something we don't do.
Mar 24, 2010 7:41 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
texasgirl8585: If it's so great, why did Obama exempt himself, Pelosi, and some other libs from it?

They were worried about the rush of people who wanted to become doctors in hopes of being their personal physician.rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 24, 2010 7:44 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
brett1308
brett1308brett1308fort worth, Texas USA7 Posts
live in canada and get sick....then tell me socialised health care is a good thing...anyone who says it is have never had any health care. period. because those of us who are paying for our healthcare are getting screwed. i for one am opting out a government obamacare and paying my private insurance so i can actually get decent care.
i'm angry because the health care was one of the few things still done right in the US.
Mar 24, 2010 7:46 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I3estman4u: Haha...you think we are weak? Try to come for our land. Like a lot of things about America (can you say ignorant?) we would surprise you at what we can do...or do we need to burn down the Whitehouse again. You have no idea about what we have set up for cases like an invasion. And you say you like your country...well, that's patriotic. Btu seriously, America is not even owned by the people! The Feds own America. Hollywood has taught America how to be. And all this talk about socialist this and socialist that....but really, you need to be a socialist in any relationship for it to work. Do a search on the meaning of that word.

I am so glad I do not live in your country.


Since we are burning down the White House again. Hmmmmmmmm I remember a touch of American history were some of those American troops ran around a major Canadian city for a time.

The decision to come out of a fortified positions take on those Americans that had forced marched to Montreal and then to get beaten by those American in the field.....had to be a near career ender for a certain British General Guy Charleton. A general that nearly got captured in the fray.

I am sure the good citizens of Montreal.....enjoyed hearing Stars and Stripes and having the American flag flying over the city. Had to be memorial day on cross border relationships for our two countries.
Mar 24, 2010 7:48 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
brett1308: live in canada and get sick....then tell me socialised health care is a good thing...anyone who says it is have never had any health care. period. because those of us who are paying for our healthcare are getting screwed. i for one am opting out a government obamacare and paying my private insurance so i can actually get decent care.
i'm angry because the health care was one of the few things still done right in the US.


Many do and have....me for one. We get very good care here in Canada. Actually, last may I have to be taken to the hospital from a clinic and THEY paid for the ambulance. People also have private insurance here as well. But just because you don't doesn't mean you get lower class medical care. You speak from hear say, not from experience. But that's ok...you are about to. rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 24, 2010 7:49 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
Musicianfriend
MusicianfriendMusicianfriendSan Andreas, California USA6 Threads 200 Posts
I3estman4u: No, I hate all the attitudes from dumba** people, like you. No matter where they come from. And no one needs to really convince any country to not like America. America gives ample reasons to on their own...has for years. I thank you for throwing credit our way, but I need to not accept credit for something we don't do.


You can blame the international bankSters for ruining your credit..the American people and the original American constitutional believers had nothing to do with that..Its the new socialist that have invaded our government these last 60 years...

WE have been as much a victim as you..weve lost retirement..homes..jobs...

If you dont understand what I mean by the International BankSters..then you should go educate yourself as to what really happend..and quit trying to blame the other victims..

My country is reeling from this...we are going down..and Obummer isnt doing one damn thing about it..Hes a part of the people who seek to destory our economy..

Why is it..Obama just gave the global gov...the IMF 250 billion dollars to create new money for us? the Amero perhaps?A But Im sure..in your infinite wisdom..you already knew all of this..

After all..far be it from a man like you..to unjustly...and ignoratly blame and innocent people..right.??Cause Im sure you have done your homework..and you know what your talking about..doh .

The gov. is hiding the true unemployment figures by putting welfare and unemployment applicants on the gov. dole..giving them NON JOB...JOBS....

Your attitude sucks big time.. arrogance and ignorance is a disgusting trait in a man..

Know what your talking about before you talk....Think..before you ink...next time.. You will look more intelligent..and people will take you more seriously..
Mar 24, 2010 7:50 PM CST Obama succeeded on health care law. Is that Good for America?
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
ttom500: Since we are burning down the White House again. Hmmmmmmmm I remember a touch of American history were some of those American troops ran around a major Canadian city for a time.

The decision to come out of a fortified positions take on those Americans that had forced marched to Montreal and then to get beaten by those American in the field.....had to be a near career ender for a certain British General Guy Charleton. A general that nearly got captured in the fray.

I am sure the good citizens of Montreal.....enjoyed hearing Stars and Stripes and having the American flag flying over the city. Had to be memorial day on cross border relationships for our two countries.


LOL...touche'thumbs up

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