Proudamerican100: That's nice tell it to the man who now works at a fast food resteraunt and is making minium wage who has the choice brtween food for the baby or my mandated health coverage or I will be fined I think everyone has agreed they want a good health care plan but this one is not even a good bandaid. Don't hold your breath on this helping the economy either. Did you think that this was free healthcare for everyone who needed it? Hate to tell the feller his insurance will be going up and soon. And they have been working on this plan how long
This is not true. People who are at a certain low wage income, like a person working at a fast food joint, will be exempt from this but will still be provided with health care---via the taxpayers money in some form. I forget exactly, but they will not be forced to pay for something they cannot afford. I don't get this wild rumor that healthcare is going to be so expensive and render people broke?
You got your information from move on.org???Mr.Soros isnt allowed in some countries in Europe i wonder why? 1.Once reform is implemented-I know of no one who is denied coverage just go to emergency room. Now when this is fully implemented we will have doctor shortages,rationing of care,government paid abortions. 2.Health insurance companies-they will be out of business in 4 years (this is the plan) 3.members of congress-they have the best coverage now-why wont they vote for the same coverage we are getting. 4.federal budget deficit-if you believe this i can sell you land in Sweden oh you are from Sweden. 5.more affordable- to who?? 6.maybe 7.reducing health care costs for employers-wow save 2.5 million jobs you have got to be kidding me just like passing the stimulas bill-unemployment wouldnt go above 8%. 8.medicaid expanded-16 million low income people-who will pay for this??We can always print more money. 9.mom and dad are happy. 10.community health centers 11 billion-I am glad we have such a surplus of money. I guess you foreigners are use to having high taxes and government running every thing.America was suppose to be different with our constitution with limited government.Our freedoms are under assualt.
StressFree: http://pol.moveon.org/healthcare/tenthings/?rc=fb.2 1. Once reform is fully implemented, over 95% of Americans will have health insurance coverage, including 32 million who are currently uninsured.
2. Health insurance companies will no longer be allowed to deny people coverage because of preexisting conditions—or to drop coverage when people become sick.
3. Just like members of Congress, individuals and small businesses who can't afford to purchase insurance on their own will be able to pool together and choose from a variety of competing plans with lower premiums.
4. Reform will cut the federal budget deficit by $138 billion over the next ten years, and a whopping $1.2 trillion in the following ten years.
5. Health care will be more affordable for families and small businesses thanks to new tax credits, subsidies, and other assistance—paid for largely by taxing insurance companies, drug companies, and the very wealthiest Americans.
6. Seniors on Medicare will pay less for their prescription drugs because the legislation closes the "donut hole" gap in existing coverage.
7. By reducing health care costs for employers, reform will create or save more than 2.5 million jobs over the next decade.
8. Medicaid will be expanded to offer health insurance coverage to an additional 16 million low-income people.
9. Instead of losing coverage after they leave home or graduate from college, young adults will be able to remain on their families' insurance plans until age 26.
10. Community health centers would receive an additional $11 billion, doubling the number of patients who can be treated regardless of their insurance or ability to pay.
motherload: You got your information from move on.org???Mr.Soros isnt allowed in some countries in Europe i wonder why? 1.Once reform is implemented-I know of no one who is denied coverage just go to emergency room. Now when this is fully implemented we will have doctor shortages,rationing of care,government paid abortions. 2.Health insurance companies-they will be out of business in 4 years (this is the plan) 3.members of congress-they have the best coverage now-why wont they vote for the same coverage we are getting. 4.federal budget deficit-if you believe this i can sell you land in Sweden oh you are from Sweden. 5.more affordable- to who?? 6.maybe 7.reducing health care costs for employers-wow save 2.5 million jobs you have got to be kidding me just like passing the stimulas bill-unemployment wouldnt go above 8%. 8.medicaid expanded-16 million low income people-who will pay for this??We can always print more money. 9.mom and dad are happy. 10.community health centers 11 billion-I am glad we have such a surplus of money. I guess you foreigners are use to having high taxes and government running every thing.America was suppose to be different with our constitution with limited government.Our freedoms are under assualt.
Stop exaggerating silly.
This just in
I'm an American citizen. Born and raised in the SF Bay Area.
Also, you don't have a clue. The old America failed the people. Deal with the new America!
I'm an American citizen. Born and raised in the SF Bay Area.
Also, you don't have a clue. The old America failed the people. Deal with the new America!
I have been in health care for over 20 years and I glad that we as a country have finely made a step. Time will tell if it was a good one or not but it still was a step.
sky241: I have been in health care for over 20 years and I glad that we as a country have finely made a step. Time will tell if it was a good one or not but it still was a step.
My 85 yo father took a header on the patio earlier today. Falling and injuring himself. So 911 came. So surrounded by 2 EMS and 5 fire fighters, all their gear, the stretcher monitors and computers...
He says to them all......"I guess Obamacare will take care of me now".....
sky241: I have been in health care for over 20 years and I glad that we as a country have finely made a step. Time will tell if it was a good one or not but it still was a step.
Now we go from the Old Corruption of the Old America / To the New Corruption of the New America. Can you say " Bend Over " Time for your Prostate Exam.
The Congress/Lobbyist's that wrote the Bill did/does not have the experience to Organize something of this proportion. Besides all the corrupt deals that went on to get this thing passed.
oznavak: As a Retired War Veteran, with excellent health care that's provided by the Veterans Admim.,I volunteer for the health care system, this bill will now help individuals without health insurance. Those that oppose this bill, have no understanding how the bill works because they've not taking the time to read what's in the bill. Opinion polls are a crock of bull, they only interview those that's opposing the bill. Tell you what, lose your health insurance, you have no money, and ''bam'', you get sick. So, are you saying, those that are negative, you would rather die than except the health insurance that was just passed. Ha Ha, you know the answer!!! Read the bill before you post negative comments about something you have no clue!!!
K.C U.S Army Retired Health Care Volunteer Advocate
Kudos for that. The fact is, America already has "socialist" programs...public schools, public transport. Funny thing about America, they are all patriotic but shun their neighbor if they need help...."each to their own demise, but we are a Nation that stands together!" I honestly don't think a lot of Americans really understand what "helping" others means.
oznavak: As a Retired War Veteran, with excellent health care that's provided by the Veterans Admim.,I volunteer for the health care system, this bill will now help individuals without health insurance. Those that oppose this bill, have no understanding how the bill works because they've not taking the time to read what's in the bill. Opinion polls are a crock of bull, they only interview those that's opposing the bill. Tell you what, lose your health insurance, you have no money, and ''bam'', you get sick. So, are you saying, those that are negative, you would rather die than except the health insurance that was just passed. Ha Ha, you know the answer!!! Read the bill before you post negative comments about something you have no clue!!!
K.C U.S Army Retired Health Care Volunteer Advocate
As an honorably discharged vet, myself, and having checked your profile, I suspect you might get a little better attention, faster, at a VA hospital, then your run of the mill, kick butt, and take names military. I too, volunteer to use the VA has my healthcare choice, but I do not wish that federally run, get in line and wait, sign your name here for end of life option, to anybody.
u know who will benifit more from the health care? it will be all the illegals immigrants in this nation. they have more benifits than americans do. cut the services and they will leave the country. as for as u europeans goes. we saved your countries from the germans during the war so you can run ur countries not sticking ur nose into our affairs
Abram: As an honorably discharged vet, myself, and having checked your profile, I suspect you might get a little better attention, faster, at a VA hospital, then your run of the mill, kick butt, and take names military. I too, volunteer to use the VA has my healthcare choice, but I do not wish that federally run, get in line and wait, sign your name here for end of life option, to anybody.
DazzleYou: 1st - I have read the bill, and as a doctor who has worked with Medicare, Medicaid, and private payer insurance for more many years, I can categorically say this bill is bad medicine because it will lower the number of doctors available and it will lower the standard of care.
2nd - I spent more time reading the bill than anyone in this clown congress.
BlainX: NO, you and other liberals want to rewrite history.
The ruskies saved the world...
The american's have done nothing the last centurie We did sale the Model T to the Germans. It was such a good relationship...
We get it!
Heard of the poem..."In Flanders Field" Who wrote it..Canadian. Of 11 million inhabitants of Canada..the whole of Canada..1.1 million went to War. That is more than 10% of our population at the time. America didn't enter the war until 1941..Pearl Harbour..got caught with her pants down. Japanese took pity on America or you might be speaking Japanese right now. The Allied forces won the war against Germany, US contributed..that is all. Don't believe Hollywood.
Christmas1: Heard of the poem..."In Flanders Field" Who wrote it..Canadian. Of 11 million inhabitants of Canada..the whole of Canada..1.1 million went to War. That is more than 10% of our population at the time. America didn't enter the war until 1941..Pearl Harbour..got caught with her pants down. Japanese took pity on America or you might be speaking Japanese right now. The Allied forces won the war against Germany, US contributed..that is all. Don't believe Hollywood.
Don't worry No Gift Xmas I DO NOT believe the lib's in Hollywood
Happygolucky4u: Don't you flaunt your excellent care with the Vetrans Administration. Maybe before you do that you might want to check and see how it is in the other states What's wrong are you really the one with no clue? The vetrans hospitals here are something to be ashamed of. And shame on you for acting like they aren't we are trying to get them cleaned up. So it don't help when people act like it is not a problem. When you lose a loved one due to the neglect in one then maybe I will read you bull idiots the world is full of them.
BlainX: Go to a book store. Get some books on WWI and WWII. Don't get history on USA. Diversify...buy some on Canadian contribution, British History, Hollands contribution, The Underground Movement in Europe during WWII. Australians, Scottish and many others. Black Americans units, the Russians..., Native Canadians..there is so much that you do not know. Do you really believe that the Americans were the only ones in WWII? Read about the shame of Canada..landed immigrants, people who were born here..put in Camps..because they were Japanese.., Germans who lived here for years sent to Germany..a country they didn't know. There is so much to know. The personal sacrifice every individual and country made. I am proud of Canada, just as proud as you are of America.
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
Musicianfriend, just a question for you? Do you know the other countries that supported the USA when they invaded Iraq? Who is supporting the USA in Afghanistan?
Veritaas: Musicianfriend, just a question for you? Do you know the other countries that supported the USA when they invaded Iraq? Who is supporting the USA in Afghanistan?
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