RE: ok...so ill do is..

I don't think it's fair of you to say that, but if someone's mind is not in sound condition, does that make it okay to attack them personally with a blog like this and mean posts?

Or should we show a little more concern?

It's one thing finding fault with someone's argument, or debate technique, but this is another.

I really do get people's frustrations, but suely there's a better way to handle our exasperation?

RE: "TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN"..("NOT HERE")

I tried, folks. sigh

RE: The Problem With Religion

For goodness' sake, don't offer Al the 'in' option, Crazy. laugh

RE: "TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN"..("NOT HERE")

No, I just offered you a hug from myself. dunno

RE: The Problem With Religion

That's a common business situation as well, Ian.

Huge businesses, side by side and feeding off those with next to nothing, or nothing.

Yet we seem to have more of a negative and emotional response to religious institutions (who take part in business) than business institutions (who take part in religion).

What's that all about?

RE: The Problem With Religion

See? I told you folk would want to get in on the action, Crazy. rolling on the floor laughing

That's not quite what I had in mind for a group hug, Al. roll eyes

RE: "TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN"..("NOT HERE")

Plainly, it has confused you. laugh

My point was, I'm only responsible for my own posts. I can disagree civilly with someone who is discussing something with me civilly.

I am not responsible for someone flying off the handle, calling me names, blocking me, deleting, or hiding my posts just because we disagree.

RE: "TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN"..("NOT HERE")

Yes, I know I used the word 'today'.

It was because I was referring to a discussion I have been having today.

Is that confusing? dunno

RE: "TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN"..("NOT HERE")

I'm sorry you felt the need to fly off the handle, Nam.

I would have prefered a reasoned discussion with you.

D'you fancy coming over to the hug blog for a bit? hug

RE: "TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN"..("NOT HERE")

Since when has there been a problem with disagreeing?

There's a lot of disagreeing going on on one blog at the moment and it's all being conducted civilly and with respect.

The person I have been disagreeing with most I really, really like and I get exactly where he's coming from.

dunno

RE: The Problem With Religion

Well, cwtch up close then, Crazy.

There's going to be a group hug soon, I just know it. giggle

RE: The Problem With Religion

But again, that's not every Catholic, nor every Christian, nor every Muslim.

You can criticise some aspects of organised religious groups, or some individuals, or even some groups of people, but to condemn religion, or all religious people as as a whole is prejudiced and unfair.

RE: ok...so ill do is..

@ Ian... I told you so...

RE: The Problem With Religion

I came across an organisation recently which whilst being based in a religious community, offers much needed services for free seperate to that.

Although I do remember being very cross about the Catholic church donating something like £16,000 to build a new church in a disaster area where people were living in flimsy tents with no food in harsh weather conditions. It seemed totally inappropriate and manipulative to me. You can pray and worship outside, but you can't live there for long with no food.

RE: ok...so ill do is..

We're all indoctrinated with stuff one way, or another.

The point is we mostly have the ability and right to choose how to lead our lives. Or maybe should be grateful when we do.

RE: ok...so ill do is..

@ Ian... Yeah, I like the way I've learned, changed and grown over the years.

It's not always easy, it takes time and quite a few painful realisations, but it's much less angst-ridden in the long run.

Long may it continue.

In fact, if I stop learning, get the horse bolt out and put me out of my misery. laugh

Btw, CS, the blogs, the forums and contributors have been instrumental in my continuing personal development.

Thank you people. bouquet

RE: ok...so ill do is..

Intention and consequences may be two different things.

RE: ok...so ill do is..

Was it Freudian slip that you kept writing 'ill' instead of 'I'll'? laugh

So, tell me, what's the difference between creating a blog to spread hatred towards Muslims and hatred towards bloggers? hmmm

RE: The Problem With Religion

@ Fly...

That's been my favourite song since I was around that young man's age, but now that's by far my favourite rendition.

I confess to tears welling up. Just awesome. yay

RE: The Problem With Religion

@ Zee...

Yes, we can call them what they are.

Human.

And that's way scarier because it brings them in close, makes them like you and me.

But it's about time we were big enough to handle that and stop expecting children to carry the can on their own. We need to recognise our own part in this, our compliance with how our societies are structured.

We are all equal. No one person is better, more important, more worthy of a happy, fulfilling life than any other. We are each accountable for our actions within the boundaries of our capabilities.

And we are all capable of so much more if we allow ourselves and others to learn, grow and change. We need to allow change to happen. We need to push for change to happen.

Otherwise, nothing will change.

It has to change. It will change.

RE: The Problem With Religion

@ Fly...

...but a change gonna come.




Encore, indeed.

RE: The Problem With Religion

We need to establish the premiss before we can answer those questions:

re·li·gion

*the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

*a particular system of faith and worship.

*a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.


How would you define 'religion'?

Or perhaps we could apply the questions to more than one definition. dunno

RE: The Problem With Religion

Good morning, Fly. tip hat

The thing is, where would we be without our fantastic imaginations and propensity for creativity? There would be no music, for starters! laugh

We also have a tendency to try and make sense of our worlds. It's just that maybe we need to start making a bit more sense than we are at the moment.

RE: Obama is muslim

Can someone take out the last 'not' in the first paragraph I wrote...? laugh

RE: A weird ordinance

No, I'm not joking, or insinuating anything, tatami.

I'm genuinely curious why people object to eating some animals, but not others.

I eat some forms of fish, mostly because I have such a restricted diet due to allergies, but I don't feel entirely comfortable with it. Fish is my comprimise because they're not exactly emotional creatures, with only a swollen brain stem, rather than a developed brain. I'd be hard pushed to put an insect, or grub in my mouth, however.

I have wondered if it's to do with the intelligence, or sentience of the animal, but a pig is way more intelligent than a dog and I doubt crocodiles require much love and affection.

I'm guessing for a lot of people it's either about emotional attachment, societal norms, or sqeamishness of some sort. dunno

And I suspect it's different for everyone, so I was asking for people's thoughts and feelings on the subject.

RE: A weird ordinance

What's your objection to crocodile meat, as opposed to other kinds of meat?

RE: you worry me

That question mark in the Muslim version should be a sort of apostrophe and there should be a little line over the second 'a'.

I'm sad I didn't reproduce it perfectly. sigh

RE: you worry me

And how do you interpret 'surrender', Kätchen?

RE: A weird ordinance

So, when Titania responded to your blog saying that eating cats and dogs was sick, it was because she doesn't like the taste...?

It sounded more like an emotional response to me.

RE: you worry me

I hope you had a nice granny nap, Lindsy.

I'm not denying you the right to feel how you feel, but it is your choice and responsibility how to manage and process your feelings.

I am, however, denying that it's fair of you to spread hatred and prejudice. With freedom of speech comes responsibility.

I do wonder if you're really as obtuse as you appear. It's hard to imagine from someone who claims to be so well educated.

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