RE: What we're listening to just now.

Stand Back - Stevie Nicks

The Never Ending Story

She went into a frenzy wondering how she ended up with an umpalumpa and didn't know what she was going to do. She pondered the idea of finding an abandoned well and tossing him in it....

I'm Curious To See What Others...

These were my thoughts and responses and I have told them such. They have said that the people have still been persisting such matters hence the reason I have asked for other input on it.

grin

RE: Does the Bible recognize the existence of other "gods"?

I've been reading your posts Len and I just have one question...

Where are you getting your information from? Are you simply taking the words of the bibles as "gospel" or have you actually dug deeper and followed far beyond that before bibles were even a glimmer in someones eye?

Ok so it's more than one question roll eyes laugh

I'm Curious To See What Others...

Hmmmm let's really throw a wrench in the first scenario...

Maybe you had brief contact with the person many years ago and it was merely due to mutual friends. You've been out of contact wih the friends for a very long time and this person all of a sudden pops up.

I'm Curious To See What Others...

have experienced or how they handled various situations.

Scenario 1:

You strike up a conversation with someone and speak at length. Then all of a sudden they have decided that you are the love of their life and they want to spend the rest of their life with you. Meanwhile you've never met the person and you aren't even thinking in that sense about them.

Scenario 2:

A person makes it blatantly obvious that they want more than friendship and you are not interested. They continually persist that they are wanting more than friendship and no matter how you try to deter them and keep the distance they continually keep pushing that boundary.

What do you do if they are persistent in the stated scenarios?

Do you set boudaries and make others aware of those boundaries?

Do you tell them to go fly a kite?


I have seen this happen on here several times as well as experienced it myself. I'm sure I could probably think of a million more questions to add...but at least it's a start.

The Never Ending Story

If only you had done what I did...At least you would have gotten more satisfaction out of it...You'll be sitting in here for a long time since they will have you on a low priority list and you won't be getting anything for a long time except from Bubba over there.

RE: Was Moses just another cult leader? (and other borrowed ideas)

I agree with you there Goose. The facts that they use are wonderful. I've always enjoyed the academics and the history. I do take some of the history with a grain of salt as with many things it can and has been distorted by some over the years.

The only thing we can do is rely on other resources of the academic research in order to get a more solid foundation of them.

The Never Ending Story

So off to jail the overbearing barbarian went, and was booked for indecent exposure.

RE: Does the Bible recognize the existence of other "gods"?

I'd love to read that book one of these days. I have seen similar words before. Again I wish I had access to all of my books mumbling doh

RE: Does the Bible recognize the existence of other "gods"?

I have been told that before and have seen some of the documentation relating to it. I believe that it will all come full circle as other things have and do.

I am anxiously awaiting my next trip to NY. The next time I go I will be scouring my grandmothers house in order to find my grandfathers Masonic book as well as some other things that were hidden away for safe keeping. There are many things that were put away in order to be passed down, and I am the only one in the family that has held on strongly to the family teachings. My grandfather taught me when I was young and I have always treasured his teachings. My great aunt had also been well versed and the old family writings of the old paths had been handed down to her. Unfortunately she had passed on when I was a little over a year old, but those things had been given to my grandparents right before she passed.

RE: Does the Bible recognize the existence of other "gods"?

I believe that the reference has to do with not only a gramatical issue, but I believe it may have also been the fact that at that time many believed in the Polytheistic teachings and traditions. Monotheism had only taken a stronghold on societies when Christianity came into being. It has been coming full circle though in many ways. There are many people that are now practicing the ancient ways openly. I know that many didn't practice the ancient teachings openly for fear of persecution as had been done in the past. There are still many families that have the ancient teachings that were passed on from generation to generation.

I probably shouldn't say this but I will anyway...The Masons are actually one of the few followers of the ancient path and have the most accurate records of the teachings. The Masons were formed in order to be able to practice the ancient teachings and were known as a secret society. The only ones that truly know what is in the actual Masonic book are ones that are a part of it or those that have inherited the book through the family. I do know that there are reproductions of it that have purposely changed some things as well as omitted things in order to keep the teachings from falling into the wrong hands.

I wish I had all of my books here so I could quote it word for word.

RE: flowers

Nope...For me it's all about what it says. If it's a generic saying then they get the generic Thank you :) If it's something that they actually take the time to write, then it's something that I take more to heart.

I will say this though there are a few friends that send generic messages sometimes just for fun but those I usually respond to with a personal message.

I'm not fond of the orchid or the sunflower...I think they're a little weird looking...Other than that I like them all. Though who they come from counts more

bouquet

Ok I'm rambling off to bed with me wave

I hope these help a bit Leo....

You're a bigger brat than I am Papa doh And I wonder where I get it from at timesmumbling

I hope these help a bit Leo....

help hole hole

RE: On the road.

Not just no but HELL NO and especially if you plan on trying to drink it scold scold scold

I hope these help a bit Leo....

blushing You're very welcome. You've always been a dear friend to me Leo and I can't bear to see you hurting the way you were.

hug teddybear hug

I hope these help a bit Leo....

Not even close but you're up well past your bedtime...Go to bed there's curfews enforced you know tongue

RE: On the road.

I always have the coffee on in my house

RE: On the road.

You're always more than welcome here in Arizona Leo yay lips

RE: Was Moses just another cult leader? (and other borrowed ideas)

uh oh

Does this mean you're going to make me bring out the heavy artillery in this thread?

hole

RE: Was Moses just another cult leader? (and other borrowed ideas)

Yes I learned that as well.

I must say it's a pleasure having you back here in the threads and that you seem to be doing much better.

wine

RE: Was Moses just another cult leader? (and other borrowed ideas)

I have to admit Goose...It was a bit difficult to stay unbiased due to my background and studies over the years. Though I think we for the most part agreed to disagree on many of the aspects

I hope these help a bit Leo....

Thank you Keytone wine

RE: Was Moses just another cult leader? (and other borrowed ideas)

I'm awaiting some of your insight on this Breezee

Thank you hug

I hope these help a bit Leo....

I started thinking more about your situation Leo, maybe this will help even more because I just wrote this so this is personally for you


The Hearts Desire

I remember a time when my heart led me astray
I think about it now and it was just one day
My head tells me not to give in but my heart persists
The look in those eyes just took me in and I could not resist
It was a bittersweet moment but I drank it in
I knew it would not last but why not take the chance
It never hurts to have one last dance
I'll never know if I don't try I'd only be a failure then
Do they know that I'm torturing myself inside again
I knew better than to allow myself to give in to my desires
But when our bodies met it was as if they were on fire
Those kisses were warm, sweet and tender I become defenseless
I'll never know why but I know that I can get through this
I cannot run and hide from it because it will only bring sorrow
The best I can do is learn from it and say I'll do better tomorrow

bouquet wine lips

RE: Our deepest fear.....

That's beautiful thumbs up thumbs up

I hope these help a bit Leo....

His Eyes

Are deep brown oceans where crystal fish dance and dart frothing the murky waters with their antics

The Glimmer

Is a radiation from deep within him never merely the reflection of the flashing neon world outside his convent

The Fear

Begins to beat at the black edges, spreads inward andthe waves of it meet in the middle and break and he cries

I hope these help a bit Leo....

I wrote this first one a while back, in fact it was right before I joined CS, so it was a little over 2 years ago....

Caged Bird Syndrome

There's a beautiful bird that sits in her cage. Her wings have been clipped so she cannot fly away. She knows not what to do. Her fear is not of being alone. The fear goes deeper than that. She has lost her independence or so it seems. She wants to go back to exploring the world. To see the things she longs to see, to spread her wings and touch the sky. To climb the highest mountains, and stand at the edges of the seas. To reconnect with herself on the highest level that she can attain, without breaking free from the physical world.

Where did I go wrong?

I didnt go wrong anywhere. I made a choice, and circumstances have changed and made that choice permanent. Expect the unexpected, and I never expected not to be able to go back to driving. I thought it would always be there waiting when I was able. Little did I know the Higher Powers had other plans for me.

What did I do to make this happen?

I didnt do anything. Again I made a choice to be secluded from the world. I didnt want to feel the pain anymore. Again the Higher Powers have other plans that as of yet I am unaware. I can only stay open minded, willing and honest enough to allow the natural changes to come through.

What can I do to change it?

I cant change it, nothing has happened for me to change yet. Is there anything I can change right now? Yes, I can change the way I look at things, and see them for what they truly are. Without feeling pain or guilt I can allow them to just be. I guess thats progress.

Do I want to break free?

No, theres nothing to break free of. I have made my own cage that I have kept myself locked in. I have done this to protect myself from harm.

Will others harm me?

Only if I allow them to.

Is this because of a man?

No, this is because Im finding me yet again, in another complex form than before. I have delved deeper this time into the darkness that I had dared only to go to when I wasnt feeling any emotions, when I was a cold, fearless and callus person that was selfish and I not only got what I wanted, but it also became an obsession. There are parts of that I will keep, only because I desire tham and they are part of me and make me feel complete.

How did all of this start?

A friend asked an innocent question: What does it take to win your heart? I of course have been tinkering with my Muse for a few days and the answer became this: My heart is long padlocked and the key thrown away into the rivers. It was locked up to prevent all the pieces from falling aside. The only way to keep it still within its confines was to encase it in hard cold steel armor, to shield it from anyone's harm. Whether by slice of the tongue or the slash of a sword it has been shredded to pieces, therefore I must not be too careless, for I'd be sure to come to be harmed. Many have courted and poured out their souls, but I cannot be one to be tied. I am a spirited soul who has always longed to be free, and now that I am forever shall I be.

Is my heart really that fragile that I must keep it locked away forever?

Maybe not forever, but until I am willing to take the chance on allowing it to feel things again I will never know if it is healed. Right now I am just not ready, willing or able to take that chance.

Did I really lose my independence or do I just see it that way?

No I just see it that way. I made choices and there were choices that I had no control over. The ones I had no control over are the ones that make me feel as though I have lost my independence.

RE: Why do we do this to ourselves ?

I guess it's time for me to post some of my words of wisdom that helped me get through those times. I shall be posting them momentarily hug

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